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Message started by Jarhead-CO on 05/05/17 at 14:49:30

Title: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely open.
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/05/17 at 14:49:30

So I noticed how sluggish the bike was when the throttle was just barely open when driving through a parking garage. It happens in all gears but is much more noticeable in first. Is this normal for this bike, I twist the throttle just a touch and it feels like a Jake brake on a truck.

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Dave on 05/06/17 at 04:07:55

Have you done the "white spacer mod" to the carb yet?

With stock jetting, the bike runs pretty lean, and several bikes that I rode when looking for a used bike to buy had that "lean surge" at light throttle settings.

You most likely need to rejet the carb....and you might as well clean it while you are in the process just to be sure you don't have a dirty carb problem.

We need to know what elevation you ride at......before we recommend jet sizes.  

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/06/17 at 13:22:03


1E25283F2E22393F242C213E4D0 wrote:
Have you done the "white spacer mod" to the carb yet?

With stock jetting, the bike runs pretty lean, and several bikes that I rode when looking for a used bike to buy had that "lean surge" at light throttle settings.

You most likely need to rejet the carb....and you might as well clean it while you are in the process just to be sure you don't have a dirty carb problem.

We need to know what elevation you ride at......before we recommend jet sizes.  

No I haven't done the white spacer mod yet. I ride at around 1000 ft. The bike has just over 500 miles I doubt it's a dirty carb problem. I have a hi flow air filter in and drilled some holes in the stock muffler.

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by batman on 05/06/17 at 14:46:51

both of the mods you did make the bike run leaner,it's breathing in and out better ,you need more fuel.You need to do the white spacer mod,  and for your elevation I'd try 150 main jet(as a start -I'm not sure how drilling the muffler will affect tuning) ,don't forget to tune your idle mix screw .

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/06/17 at 14:59:30


7C7F6A737F702A261E0 wrote:
both of the mods you did make the bike run leaner,it's breathing in and out better ,you need more fuel.You need to do the white spacer mod,  and for your elevation I'd try 150 main jet(as a start -I'm not sure how drilling the muffler will affect tuning) ,don't forget to tune your idle mix screw .

I did the idle mixture screw already. I gotta get a jet set and I've never messed with carbs before and I'm using the bike to commute so I can't have it down for a long time.

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Kenny G on 05/06/17 at 15:13:26

JarHead,

If you post your location in your profile chances are someone that lives near you will help you with the carburetor.

Kenny G :-/

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/06/17 at 16:02:21


4F616A477665776C040 wrote:
JarHead,

If you post your location in your profile chances are someone that lives near you will help you with the carburetor.

Kenny G :-/

I'm in Muncy PA. Gotta figure out how to update my location.

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
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Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/06/17 at 16:40:00

Yeah found it   ;D thanks I live out in the sticks on a dirt road.

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by verslagen1 on 05/06/17 at 16:49:15

I've heard of the river stix, but not the road stix.   :-?

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/06/17 at 17:27:29


776473726D6066646F30010 wrote:
I've heard of the river stix, but not the road stix.   :-?

The road sticks is what's on my road everyone a big storm comes and I have to clear a tree or 2 out of the roads on my way to work.

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Kenny G on 05/06/17 at 19:00:45

JarHead,

I am originally from Lancaster, PA and I remember Muncy had a womens prison as a claim to fame back in the day.

Kenny G :-/

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/06/17 at 21:50:26


69474C615043514A220 wrote:
JarHead,

I am originally from Lancaster, PA and I remember Muncy had a womens prison as a claim to fame back in the day.

Kenny G :-/

That it does and I'm actually a state corrections officer but I don't work there. Also my address shouldn't be muncy but it is I'm actually 30 minutes north of the prison up in the mountains.

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by batman on 05/07/17 at 12:26:45

If you read up on the mods and get the tools and parts together ,you should be able to do the job in 2to3 hours max.

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/07/17 at 13:35:57


6B687D6468673D31090 wrote:
If you read up on the mods and get the tools and parts together ,you should be able to do the job in 2to3 hours max.

Is there a list of all the tools needed somewhere convenient?

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by batman on 05/07/17 at 16:37:19

I can't think of anything you need except a set of JIS screwdrivers to get things apart,it is some times handy to use a penetrating oil on the tiny brass screws holding the needle plate in place and some spray carb cleaner to clean everything off the slide before reinstalling.a piece a sandpaper if you're going to sand the stock spacer rather than use  #4 steel machine washers.

Title: Re: Sluggish engine when throttle is just barely o
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/07/17 at 16:53:53


7D7E6B727E712B271F0 wrote:
I can't think of anything you need except a set of JIS screwdrivers to get things apart,it is some times handy to use a penetrating oil on the tiny brass screws holding the needle plate in place and some spray carb cleaner to clean everything off the slide before reinstalling.a piece a sandpaper if you're going to sand the stock spacer rather than use  #4 steel machine washers.

Alright sounds good. I'll pick up a jet set before I do this and use the washers.

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