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Message started by mpescatori on 04/20/17 at 08:05:20

Title: Racing Minis
Post by mpescatori on 04/20/17 at 08:05:20

So you thought small cars can't be fast, eh ?  :D

St. Mary's Trophy, Part Le First................................................St. Mary's Trophy, Part Le Seconde
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNv4GCrCU10[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBHfsb2ICbE[/media]

8-)

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/20/17 at 08:36:23


0D1005130301140F1209600 wrote:
So you thought small cars can't be fast, eh ?)


Actually, that thought has never entered my head. Some of my favorite cars have been the ones with the lowest horsepower, i.e CRX-Si (92.5 hp), MR2 (112 hp), Neon RT (138hp) and a bunch of 240Z's (140-ish HP). I even had a Bug (40hp) that was sorta fun to drive if everything was actually working and I had time for the motor to spin up.

My favorite motorcycles have been the ones with the least hp. Like the old saying; "I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow".

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by Serowbot on 04/20/17 at 08:53:04

I drive a 52hp Geo Metro...  great fun...

Funnest car chase movie of all time... ;D
http://https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYzZjMWVlZGYtMmVkOC00NWY1LTg3MjEtZWRlM2RmMDE3ZmRhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDk3NzU2MTQ@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182,268_AL_.jpg

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by SALB on 04/20/17 at 10:50:58

My buddy Rob has been successful racing his 61 Mini in SCCA hillclimbs, with several firsts in his class.

https://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.status/uidEvent/55CC908C-E6E5-E2E4-34E14B490157FFC9





Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by bobert_FSO on 04/20/17 at 11:13:15

It is way more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.

Something about driving a car on the edge of its capability is exhilarating. I've liked small sports cars for years. My son discovered that he much preferred flogging a Mazda Miata than a Nissan 300ZX. The ZX was also fun, but not much fun until you way above sane speed limits.

Now that I think about it, this is part of the fun of a Savage.

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/20/17 at 11:35:59

Funnest car chase movie of all time..

That's possibly true..
McQueen passed the same blasted Volkswagen beetle about four times ripping through San Francisco in Bullet,
That was entertaining..

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by Kris01 on 04/20/17 at 18:19:30

And the Charger lost the same hubcaps over and over again.

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by Kris01 on 04/20/17 at 18:22:35

http://www.reddit.com/r/interestingascrappity smack/comments/3oqts5/a_smart_car_vs_a_mustang/


Hmmm, the board filter is messing up the link.

You know which parts to change!

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by FL Savage on 04/20/17 at 23:26:31


132A312B6869580 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/interestingascrappity smack/comments/3oqts5/a_smart_car_vs_a_mustang/
Hmmm, the board filter is messing up the link.
You know which parts to change!



Is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvbF6kDhWyU

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by mpescatori on 04/21/17 at 05:04:37

Although the US have Always been exposed to the Japanese automobile industry,
allow me to say that the best "hot hatches" actually come from European manufacturers of the 1970's and 1980's...
...and they should Always be road tested in their natural "European" state of tune,
without smog heads, lean burn emissions and catalytic converters to foul up performance and "steal" rpm from the power band.

Google the following cars:

From the UK:
- Sunbeam Tiger
- Ford Escorth Mexico and RS  (1970's rwd)
- Ford Escort Cosworth and RS (1980's fwd)
- Ford Sierra Cosworth
- Vauxhall (Opel) Corsa SR
- Triumph Dolomite Sprint (OK it's a 4-door sedan, but compare its tech specs with the Ford Maverick...!)

From Germany:
- VW Polo G3
- VW Golf G5
- VW Golf VR5 or VR6
- BMW 2002 TIi (Touring was its hatchback version, else it was a 2-dr sedan)

From France:
- Peugeot 205 Rallye
- Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6, 1.9
- Renault Clio Williams
- Talbot Sunbeam Lotus (a much more wicked car than the UK-made Tiger)

From Italy:
- Alfa Romeo Alfasud TI/Sprint 1.5, 1.7
- Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT 1.6, 1.8, 2.0, 2.5 V6
- Alfa Romeo 147 GTA (a whopping 240bhp 3.2liter V6 !!!)
- FIAT Ritmo Abarth
- Lancia Delta Turbo, Integrale and 4WD (beasts !!!)

All in all, perhaps none of these would make an american V8 muscle car look twice at the traffic lights...
...challenge them on the Tail of the Dragon or Skyline Drive and you'll be thinking twice !!!

Happy hunting on Youtube !  8-)

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by Tocsik on 04/21/17 at 06:26:32


2533243921343922560 wrote:
I drive a 52hp Geo Metro...  great fun...

Funnest car chase movie of all time... ;D
http://https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYzZjMWVlZGYtMmVkOC00NWY1LTg3MjEtZWRlM2RmMDE3ZmRhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDk3NzU2MTQ@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182,268_AL_.jpg


And keeping with the topic of this thread, The car chase seen from The Bourne Identity using the classic Mini was one of my favorites!
"So, we got a bump."  drives down a steep flight of stairs  ;D

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by Tocsik on 04/21/17 at 06:29:32


687560766664716A776C050 wrote:
Although the US have Always been exposed to the Japanese automobile industry,
allow me to say that the best "hot hatches" actually come from European manufacturers of the 1970's and 1980's...
...and they should Always be road tested in their natural "European" state of tune,
without smog heads, lean burn emissions and catalytic converters to foul up performance and "steal" rpm from the power band.

Google the following cars:

From the UK:
- Sunbeam Tiger
- Ford Escorth Mexico and RS  (1970's rwd)
- Ford Escort Cosworth and RS (1980's fwd)
- Ford Sierra Cosworth
- Vauxhall (Opel) Corsa SR
- Triumph Dolomite Sprint (OK it's a 4-door sedan, but compare its tech specs with the Ford Maverick...!)

From Germany:
- VW Polo G3
- VW Golf G5
- VW Golf VR5 or VR6
- BMW 2002 TIi (Touring was its hatchback version, else it was a 2-dr sedan)

From France:
- Peugeot 205 Rallye
- Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6, 1.9
- Renault Clio Williams
- Talbot Sunbeam Lotus (a much more wicked car than the UK-made Tiger)

From Italy:
- Alfa Romeo Alfasud TI/Sprint 1.5, 1.7
- Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT 1.6, 1.8, 2.0, 2.5 V6
- Alfa Romeo 147 GTA (a whopping 240bhp 3.2liter V6 !!!)
- FIAT Ritmo Abarth
- Lancia Delta Turbo, Integrale and 4WD (beasts !!!)

All in all, perhaps none of these would make an american V8 muscle car look twice at the traffic lights...
...challenge them on the Tail of the Dragon or Skyline Drive and you'll be thinking twice !!!

Happy hunting on Youtube !  8-)



That's a nice list!  I would add (among a few others) the Opel Manta.  I play around with driving sims using a FFB wheel with an H-shifter and pedal setup that includes a clutch.  Some of the most enjoyable stuff is the Hot Hatch races and classic Mini cups in Grid Autosport.  Also have a blast with Dirt Rally using a lot of the cars on your list!  I would love to have the chance to throw some small cars around the corners of tracks.

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by Ed L. on 04/21/17 at 06:40:19

My first car was a '68 Nova with the 230 inline six that I put a 4 speed on. Boy was it fun to drive. The early Falcons with the 144 inline six were a blast also.  
 The Sunbeam Tiger was a wolf in sheep's clothing with a Ford 260 V8 hooked up with a 4 speed.  

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by bobert_FSO on 04/21/17 at 09:23:45

When I first got my driver's license, my dad was driving a '67 VW Microbus (the one will all the skylight windows in the roof). I didn't have my own car, but got to use a family car when needed.

Needless to say, the VW bus was about the slowest thing on the road. Dismal acceleration and a 59mph top speed.

I would be out and about in the bus with a couple of buddies. One of our activities was to stoplight drag race the car next to us. The kicker was that the person in the other car didn't know it was a race. They would just leave the light at their normal speed, and I would be over in the other lane just accelerating the VW for all it was worth. Sometimes we won, but not often.

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/17 at 10:24:51

The kicker was that the person in the other car didn't know it was a race. They would just leave the light at their normal speed, and I would be over in the other lane just accelerating the VW for all it was worth. Sometimes we won, but not often.


Yep, just dont tell them it's a race, keep it short, a technique I mastered long ago.
The Best part is looking over at them and Gloating and they look back at me wondering what is going on, not even Knowing they just got Beat! Ohh the Joy..

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by bobert_FSO on 04/21/17 at 10:35:07

Also with the VW, there was no police issues with the appearance of racing or "excessive show of speed". The "race" only lasted to about 40 mph. No screeching tires or loud mufflers to give away our activities.

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by batman on 04/21/17 at 10:36:48

I had a 68 karmen  ghia ,stock1500cc but rev it at a red light next to a vette, the guy in the vette would be laughing but when the light chained I'd be through the intersection before he got moving(4;11 stock rearend and not enough power to spin the wheels,it was like a slingshot) shift to second ,and let off at 35mph, vette shot by at 50 ,cops always on the side street about 4 blocks up OOPS! and me smiling as I drove by doing my 35.Such fun!

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by verslagen1 on 04/21/17 at 10:55:21

You're a bad man McGee... very bad.   ;D

Title: Re: Racing Minis
Post by rich8363 on 04/23/17 at 18:01:54

I miss my MINI

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