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Title: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/19/17 at 12:36:56 So this is happening: http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/04/19/exxon-seeks-u-s-waiver-to-work-in-russia-despite-sanctions.html How about that??? Coincidence? No effing way. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by pg on 04/19/17 at 13:45:09 Who cares........ ::) Best regards, |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/19/17 at 13:50:44 243335393626540 wrote:
Not enough care... I guess that's the problem. All tweety's followers seem to be happy to look the other way... Meanwhile, tilly and tweety want a part of the half a trillion dollar deal with vlad. Yeah, no big deal... right? |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by pg on 04/19/17 at 13:55:24 4B555A5B564B504D3F0 wrote:
I have yet to see anyone on the left take issue with the Clintons selling Russia Uranium? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/19/17 at 14:05:29 253234383727550 wrote:
I have yet to see anyone on the left take issue with the Clintons selling Russia Uranium? Best regards, [/quote] Because it's a non-issue that was cooked up by the paranoid right: (from politifact) The uranium deal Before we get too far ahead of ourselves -- the United States gave a fifth of its uranium to Russia? What? As for the transaction Trump alluded to, it involved the Russian nuclear agency and Uranium One, a Toronto-based company. As PolitiFact National has reported, Russia’s nuclear energy agency, which also builds nuclear weapons, bought a controlling stake in Uranium One. The company has mines, mills and tracts of land in Wyoming, Utah and other U.S. states equal to about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity. So, to be clear, the 20 percent is capacity, not uranium that has been produced. Given that Russia doesn’t have the licenses to export uranium outside the United States, it was likely more interested in Uranium One’s assets in Kazakhstan, the world’s largest uranium producer, our colleagues said. As the New York Times has reported, the deal was made in separate transactions from 2009 to 2013. It made Russia’s atomic energy agency one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Russian President Vladimir Putin "closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain." So, what was Clinton’s role? Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. At the time, the United States was seeking to "reset" its relationship with Russia and trying to get the Kremlin on board with its Iran nuclear deal. The national security issue at stake in the Uranium One deal was not primarily about nuclear weapons proliferation, the Times reported, because the United States and Russia had for years cooperated on that front, with Russia sending enriched fuel from decommissioned warheads to be used in American nuclear power plants in return for raw uranium. Instead, it concerned American dependence on foreign uranium sources. While the United States gets one-fifth of its electrical power from nuclear plants, it produces only around 20 percent of the uranium it needs. Trump’s previous claim on the topic, made in June 2016, was that Clinton’s State Department "approved the transfer of 20 percent of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation." PolitiFact National rated it Mostly False -- mainly because there is no evidence of a quid pro quo. The State Department did approve the Uranium One deal, but it didn’t act unilaterally. It was one of nine U.S. government agencies, plus independent federal and state nuclear regulators, that had to sign off on the deal. It's as easy as that to respond..... Savvy? |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Serowbot on 04/19/17 at 14:25:14 ...but Alex Jones said it was true... :-/ |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by pg on 04/19/17 at 17:03:07 687E69746C79746F1B0 wrote:
If you say so; however, the NY Times did a write up as well. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Hillary Rodham Clinton. As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by WebsterMark on 04/19/17 at 17:43:43 Jones and The New York Times have the same level,of credibility. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/20/17 at 07:00:25 5F6D6A7B7C6D7A45697A63080 wrote:
So let me get this straight... you mean to tell me that the NYT was the only one to report on this and challenge tweety on his assertion? Then by all means - prove my post about hillary and the uranium to be false. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/20/17 at 07:07:47 After watching the dogged determination to Not See how guilty she was by so many people I've stopped trying to prove things. It doesn't MATTER how much information conflicts with the beliefs, the beliefs stand. If you want to be correct in your positions YOU must be willing to abandon support for anyone. And YOU have to dig up the dirt on them, or at least study the assertions of others. The Situational Ethics and My guy didn't do anything worse than your guy attitude is disgusting. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/20/17 at 08:53:47 445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:
That's not at all how this played out. Facts are facts - they don't care if you believe them or not. The Earth is round - it just is. There are some that don't believe it. It doesn't make the Earth any less round. How many hearings, how much scrutiny, how far does it need to go? If she was so terribly guilty, what happened to tweety's promise to "lock her up"? C'mon - there was more time spent on the Benghazi hearings (political witch hunt) than on the actual 9/11 investigations!! No smoking gun.... no intentional malice... nothing was found. Don't you find it strange that there's been zero/zip/nada from the right about any further investigations on hillary, Benghazi, her emails, the clinton foundation, etc?? It's all just political BS. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Serowbot on 04/20/17 at 09:01:22 415E585F42457444744C5E52192B0 wrote:
Nice blinders... ::) |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/20/17 at 09:14:00 I've criticized fairly, both sides. You, not so much. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/20/17 at 09:28:56 3F2026213C3B0A3A0A32202C67550 wrote:
Need I repeat - this is not about criticism, these are facts. I have plenty of criticism for hillary! I have plenty for Obama and Bernie and my mayor and my alderman and the people who comment on here - but that's not what this is. Going back to my original post - it's a fact that the deal that exxon was making with russia is worth half a trillion dollars. It just is. It's a fact that our current Secretary of State, tilly, used to work for exxon. It's a fact that there has now been a request to lift the sanctions on russia to permit the deal to go through. This isn't criticism, this is fact. My criticism comes BECAUSE of the these facts. I criticise the sheep on the far right allowing tweety to fleece America. I criticise the likes of the GOP in Congress that let this happen and don't call out obvious wrongdoing when it's within their own party. I criticise the democrats who do the same. So when you bring up hillary and how "guilty" she is... you're not basing it on facts - YOU are just criticising. Just own it. We get that you hate her. It's ok, I hate tweety - but in the case of him - there are FACTS that support my position (maralago, his constant tweets, his cabinet, his thin skin, etc.) . hillary has been scrutinized for decades, she's been the subject of numerous hearings, spent decades in public office and yet, nothing has been proved about any wrongdoing. Speculation doesn't count in a court. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Paraquat on 04/20/17 at 09:35:05 485659585548534E3C0 wrote:
I like math because numbers don't lie. 1 + 1 = 2 I forget the expression Neil DeGrasse Tyson used, but to paraphrase, it just is. It can be proven. By anyone. Scientists work to create these theories and either prove or disprove them. Other scientists work to disprove others, or confirm their findings. Galileo theorized the Earth was round. Later, it was directly observed. So, some scientist comes by with this crazy theory. Let's call him "Al". He theorizes that energy is equal to mass times the speed of light in a vacuum, squared. As we learn about our own environment, this theory proves true. Quote:
So, this was a theory. It can be proved time and time again. Where am I going with this? Something stinks with Hillary and I can't prove or disprove it. I'm just supposed to rely on some "experts"? Do you recall the campaign regarding pomegranate juice? Turns out it's fantastic for you, cures ED, boosts immunity, heart disease. This was a campaign launched by Pom, a company that markets and sells pomegranate juice. Little biased, no? I'll go one further... now that time has elapsed, independent studies have been performed. Quote:
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/pom-not-so-wonderful/ So, I'm supposed to just blatantly accept that she's clean because someone else says so, with no verification of my own? Facts are facts, as you say. I guess if it's on the Internet it must be true. --Steve |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/20/17 at 10:05:03 1F2E3D2E3E3A2E3B4F0 wrote:
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/pom-not-so-wonderful/ So, I'm supposed to just blatantly accept that she's clean because someone else says so, with no verification of my own? Facts are facts, as you say. I guess if it's on the Internet it must be true. --Steve[/quote] You prove my point actually with the POM example! Ask yourself - who do you trust? A study that was shown to be put out by the bottlers/marketers of POM juice were found out. Good on the truth! The way it should be. So who do you trust in the hillary scrutiny? Are you yourself part of the investigation? Have you ever met hillary or any of the clintons? Have you ever sat on a judiciary committee investigating her? See the point I'm making? You can't compare one instance of marketing scheme to decades of being in the public eye. Is hillary a politician?? YES!! Has she made shady deals (like every other politician)? YES!! Did she have someone killed? NO!! Did she willingly let 4 people in Benghazi die? NO!! Did she use her personal email server when she shouldn't have? YES!! Did she actually break the law? NO!! Was she stupid? YES!! It just boils down to - who do you trust? Do you trust those who have accused her? Do you trust those that have questioned her? Do you trust those that have reported on her? Do you trust those that have run campaigns against her? Do you trust the findings of the committees that investigated her? Who do you trust? No, don't believe everything on the internet (referring to the POM story). But at the same time, don't confuse fact with conjecture. It's a fact that hillary has been under scrutiny for the better part of the last few decades. It's a fact that many, people in DC hate the clintons - hillary in particular (I'm no fan of her myself). Just because you hate someone doesn't make them guilty. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Paraquat on 04/20/17 at 11:10:12 I don't trust anyone. I don't trust her. I don't trust her accusers. Now, at what point can you make an observation and arrive at your own theory? There are an awful lot of dead people surrounding both the Clinton's. More so than surround me. There has never been any doubt to congress that I ever lied about anything. The doubt exists with her, even though it's been supposedly quelled. Submitting this as empirical evidence, I can theorize that there are some shady doin's going on. I can't prove it. I can't disprove it. But I know enough to steer clear. --Steve |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by raydawg on 04/20/17 at 11:22:11 SWEET......... They can now afford to pay for BOTH Clinton's to speak together at the SAME TIME! ;D Call an wambulance the end of the world is near :-* ;D :P |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/20/17 at 11:25:43 5564776474706471050 wrote:
And that's fine. But why do you trust her accusers? Why do you disbelieve what she says and believe what others say? What qualifies THEM? Why do you trust them and not her? See the point I make? Why do you trust scientists and mathematicians? It all boils down to who do you believe... |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Paraquat on 04/21/17 at 06:16:25 213F30313C213A27550 wrote:
And that's fine. But why do you trust her accusers? Why do you disbelieve what she says and believe what others say? What qualifies THEM?[/quote] Why do you trust them and not her? See the point I make? Why do you trust scientists and mathematicians? It all boils down to who do you believe...[/quote] I trust math and science because I can prove them for myself. Gas is a hydrocarbon (decent gas is C8H18). Add oxygen (O) and a spark. You get a byproduct of H2O and CO2. It's proven to death. I can see it. I can observe it. I can work the formula for myself. 1 + 1 = 2. It's out there for the world. 1 + x = 2 where x is sealed in a classified document for public safety. I don't have to lie about where I was, who I was with, what I did or did not say, did or did not do. http://https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/88/50/f6/8850f6cf7a8e1c151bce23c3c38a28dd.jpg --Steve |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 06:35:05 4574677464607461150 wrote:
OK then - so you trust nothing but math? You have no trust in anything else? No trust in the people YOU voted for? No trust in people like police (all those crooked cops, right?). No trust in a jury convicting or acquitting someone? No trust of anyone outside your control? Seriously... can you answer any these questions? Don't feel obligated to - I'm just using them as an example. The point is - regardless of what you think, the judicial process has found hillary innocent of any wrongdoing - be it the clinton foundation or Benghazi or her emails. Because YOU don't trust her is on you - not the general populace. You can shower your criticism all day and that's cool. But the facts are the facts. She has never been found guilty of any offense worthy of conviction. Full stop. Whether or not you believe it doesn't change those facts. (the GOP had 9 hearings on Benghazi and found no negligence or malice) Let me state for the record that I do not support hillary. I'm glad she's been put to pasture and her career in politics is over. She's the reason Bernie Sanders got the shaft. She represents the establishment democrats. Their time is over. But again, just because I can't stand her doesn't make her guilty of anything but being a politician. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Paraquat on 04/21/17 at 09:24:37 I can absolutely answer them. I don't trust anything or anyone. I needed something machined. I bought a Bridgeport. I needed something welded. I bought a Miller TIG welder. I needed something turned, I bought a Hendey lathe. I wanted to port and polish a race head for a car, I did it. I built a flow bench. I flow tested it. I wanted to rebuild an engine, I did it. I outsourced the bore and hone but I have a set of telescoping micrometers and I was able to confirm the dimensions, roundness, and squareness to the deck. How do I trust my measurements were good? Pre inspected the set master and double check the calibration on the tool. I observe or have influence over these factors. I didn't vote. I opted to follow George Carlin's idea: Quote:
I don't trust the police one bit. My 9mm Hydroshoks are 1496 FPS. When my dog alerted my neighbor that the house across the street was being broken into, it took the police 45 minutes to respond. When my friend, in the same town, had a brick thrown through her front window, it took the police over an hour to respond even though the station is a 5 minute drive at normal speeds. In both instances, the suspect had fled long before the police responded to the scene. One night, I had 4 or 5 guys getting rowdy in my street at 3AM. Pounding nip bottles, discarding them in lawns and in the streets. One urinated in my front yard. I called the police. They were no where to be seen. I was working pizza delivery in my youth. I had a bunch of town maps in my car and worked late hours. I got pulled over. I was questioned why I was out late, why I had the maps. The officer said I had a license plate light out. I asked if I could see it. He said yes. I opened the door and he slammed the door on my foot with his hand on his sidearm and yelled to stay in the vehicle. I explained that I just asked him if I could see it and that he gave me his consent. He suggested I check it at home on my own time, and get out of here. Guess what I didn't need to buy the next day? A license plate light. Because it worked fine. Someone backed into my girlfriends car. The officer on the scene was someone who went to high school with my girlfriend. He let his guard down and started talking to us casually. He said if he ever sees a suspicious car and wants to pull them over, he just tells them they have a marker light out. He added that people are stupid and don't even question what that is. I witnessed these events first hand. Are you going to tell me I'm wrong? A person is smart. People are stupid. I could always review court records for myself, if I cared. Public records. Nothing to hide. I will assume you ride a motorcycle. That should be evidence enough that you can't trust anyone else on the road. Based on all my observations of her I have arrived at the conclusion that she is fishy. --Steve |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 10:05:34 1021322131352134400 wrote:
LOL - I'm sure your self sufficiency serves you well - but what about if you get sick? Do you trust a doctor? Do you pave your own roads? See how silly that can get? Further, because of your experience with a two bad police officers, you assume that every single one everywhere is bad?? You don't see the problem there? When I was a little kid, I had to go to the barbershop and have a haircut. The barber, while running the clippers, nicked my ear and it hurt! He got the top cartilage and it bled a lot! (I still have the little scar). Well, I obviously needed another haircut at some point and time - what was I supposed to do? Never get a haircut? I've seen this routine from Carlin, and although I thoroughly enjoy him - he's one of the best comedians ever, I disagree. If you don't participate, how can things change? Complacency is what got us to this point. That and ignorance. When you don't vote - or at least get involved, then you cannot expect anything to change for the better. I like living in a society with others. I like that others may have to rely on me as I do on them. I guess I'm crazy... |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by raydawg on 04/21/17 at 10:15:17 Oh, your are playing what it????? Like what if there is a God ;D |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/17 at 10:15:31 I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Luvitt! TT, suggest you wash your hands. You've just been handed yerass.. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Serowbot on 04/21/17 at 10:21:51 45564E53564050370 wrote:
Now yer' talkin'.. :-/ |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by raydawg on 04/21/17 at 10:39:07 7C6A7D60786D607B0F0 wrote:
Now yer' talkin'.. :-/[/quote] "IF" ;D |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 11:15:18 3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:
How so? The fact I trust others is somehow wrong? You honestly think that if you don't vote, you have right to complain how bad things are? So there zero people of good conscience out there? If you all feel that way, why the heck do you stay here? Move off the Planet. Seriously SMH...... |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Paraquat on 04/21/17 at 11:19:19 7F616E6F627F64790B0 wrote:
Would I trust a doctor? Absolutely. Because I could back his findings and do my own research. I grew a cyst. I had it removed. It grew back. Same spot. I did my own research and determined if he originally missed a piece it could've grown back in the allotted time. I came back and told him I was there for warranty work. I had some weird heel pain. It was so bad at times I could barely stand. The bottom line is that after a podiatry specialist, x-rays, MRI, EMG, physical therapy, an ultrasonically applied steroid, he wanted to operate and partial sever my plantar fascia. I did my research. I stopped going to him. I elected to see a massage therapist. She loosened one Hell of a knot in my quadratus lumborum. She applied maybe 2 pounds of pressure and I was on the floor in tears. 2 months later I was running and jogging again. Doctors are people. People are fallible. If I paved my own roads, what would my taxes go towards? If I were in charge, I couldn't be accused of collusion. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/19/nyregion/documents-show-rowland-s-ties-to-a-contractor.html My own ex-governor... I have more stories, but I'm trying to keep it concise. I never said I assume that every single law enforcement officer was bad. I'm sure there are good ones. I said I trust myself more than I trust them. Quote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/nyregion/08nypd.html I can hit a duck bowling pin at 50 feet, consistently, at least 7/8 times with my 1911, coupled with my argument regarding response time, with the fact that it's been proven in court that they don't have to protect or serve me (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html?_r=0) I'll take my own chances. I don't like to consider it complacency, I prefer to think of it as being a conscientious objector. --Steve |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/17 at 11:24:29 I'm pretty sure I couldn't go camping with some people here without someone winding up with a fat lip. Steve, OTOH, I think would be a pleasant one to spend time around. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by oldNslow on 04/21/17 at 11:36:59 435D52535E435845370 wrote:
Well, so much for that: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/21/white-house-refuses-to-give-exxonmobil-special-waiver-to-drill-in-sanctioned-russia.html |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 11:38:26 5C6D7E6D7D796D780C0 wrote:
If everyone just p!sses and moans and does nothing to change it, then nothing's gonna change. I may b!tch on here, but I don't sit at home and do nothing to change it. The world is bigger than me. I need it and it needs me. Object all you want, but if that objection is not followed up with action, nothing will change. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 11:39:32 4B7574786A7677190 wrote:
Well, so much for that: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/21/white-house-refuses-to-give-exxonmobil-special-waiver-to-drill-in-sanctioned-russia.html [/quote] Good news! Let's hope that's the end of it. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 11:41:59 36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 wrote:
Care to be more specific? Shall we leave the two of you alone???? |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/17 at 12:50:41 Nope, no need for specifics. Aaand, you're sikk. So, because it's good for Russia, our companies can't make billions. I get it. Pretty stupid.. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Serowbot on 04/21/17 at 12:58:16 You know you'd think differently if it was Hillary or Obama... |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 13:02:11 445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:
Sikk? Not sure what that means. If you two want to be alone - far be it for me to judge. But hey, if you're cool with a SOS who formerly ran exxon, and then that same company lobbying to lift sanctions on russia to make hundreds of billions - then fine. But then don't sit there and hurl accusations at hillary of using the clinton foundation for financial gain. You can't have your cake and eat it too. But this is a moot point, ain't it? exxon got shot down. (at least for now) |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 13:02:46 5640574A52474A51250 wrote:
No way... there are no hypocrites posting here!!! |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/17 at 13:02:50 Trump is doing something stupid, but I would agree with bammy? |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/17 at 13:05:42 That you don't see the difference between a Request for a Waiver that would make money come INTO AMERICA versus a Pay to Play scheme to enrich a crime family is no surprise. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 13:13:21 37282E2934330232023A28246F5D0 wrote:
LMAO!! You make it sound like exxon would spew out the money to all of America!!! Seriously, how naive are you?? Corporate profits have been at historic highs for like a decade. Where's all that money going??? C'mon.... you MUST be smarter than that!! |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by oldNslow on 04/21/17 at 13:48:31 This waiver might possibly have been just as important to the Russian company that Exon was partnering with. Denying it as long as the sanctions are in place might be intended to influence Putin to reconsider continuing the things that got the sanctions imposed in the first place. Everything isn't always just about the partisan bickering in US politics. "World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?" |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/17 at 15:07:29 As if the Clinton crime family shared a dime.. You do know what Dividends are, right? Stockholders earn,, and spend into the economy. Yes, I Am smarter than That, and you, too, apparently. That would have been a win, win. More oil on the global market, better relationship with Russia, and the economic boost created by the corporate wealth. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by pg on 04/21/17 at 15:24:03 "World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?" [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZw1qUWlViE[/media] Best regards, |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/21/17 at 15:38:17 4C5355524F4879497941535F14260 wrote:
The trickle DON'T WORK! |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/17 at 21:20:45 You're not thinking. Stockholders, STOCKHOLDERS, earn Dividends..and BUY houses and cars and gasoline, and, and, and AND Someone is gonna do it. Why avoid the benefits? You prefer a different country help Russia develop a huge oilfield? What about how much that would repair the relationship with Russia? This is a dumb move. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by Paraquat on 04/22/17 at 02:27:16 534D42434E534855270 wrote:
This is getting silly. The second cyst removal was done at no charge to me and no, my insurance wasn't that good. If a doctor says "Take these pills" do you blindly take them? Do you know how many document cases there are of doctors prescribing contradictory medications? I'm not saying an individual who sees two different doctors and each one prescribes a medication that conflicts with the other. I mean one doctor who prescribes two different contradictory medicines. "May have certain side effects." Do you ever read the label? I've seen blood thinners prescribed to hemophiliacs. PEOPLE ARE FALLIBLE C'mon, sheepy, we're going to the "laughter house". Inaction is still action. "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Rush One person standing for a cause rarely works well. "You stand in front of tanks, the tanks are gonna win." - Sick Puppies But, it's a start. How many grains of sand make a heap? --Steve |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by WebsterMark on 04/22/17 at 05:20:54 Corporate success and profits are what keep this nation, this world, afloat and moving forward. Taking away that will turns us into Venezuela or the $hitholes in Africa. Of course trickle down economics works. The owner of my company ownes his own island in the Baltic Sea, a yacht to float to one of his 7 houses. He also employs 3800 people around the world and pays based on output. You don't think that's trickle down? Anyone not capable of seeing that is letting their partisanship block common sense and logic. What you perceive to be the wealthy running this country is what exists in the Middle East. A small number of extremely wealthy with the supprt of laws and governments that prevent the formation of corporations with investments, dividens, etc... One of you who claim tricky down doesn't work, tell me the name of the poor man person you work for? (being a Federal Worker for the US Government means you work for a bankrupt owner so that doesn't count.) |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/22/17 at 08:33:39 And No, bot, I don't see things differently based on Who does it. Right and wrong, smart and stupid are what they are. Maybe you don't remember the things I've said about Not trusting trump and criticisms leveled at him. Explain How I would change my position if Hillary had made this call. Your Accusation didn't elaborate. Why would I Like what I call STUPID because she did it? Or, maybe you didn't really read what I said, and just Projected Your total hypocrisy on me. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/22/17 at 12:09:43 716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 wrote:
You seem to forget how trickle down economics has worked... it hasn't. The only real good that profit can do is by investing in America. Period. Yeah, you can make a handful of people rich by paying them dividends, or you can invest, grow and employ more with your profits. If you are only beholden to your stockholders - that's a problem. No.. I take that back... That IS the problem. Further, you seem to think that we are somehow going to change vlad into Mr. Rogers by striking an oil deal.... that is laughable!!! Yeah, maybe we should have been friends with hitler - I'm sure things would have been much different!! LMAO!!!!! |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by T And T Garage on 04/22/17 at 12:12:14 7647544757534752260 wrote:
This is getting silly. The second cyst removal was done at no charge to me and no, my insurance wasn't that good. If a doctor says "Take these pills" do you blindly take them? Do you know how many document cases there are of doctors prescribing contradictory medications? I'm not saying an individual who sees two different doctors and each one prescribes a medication that conflicts with the other. I mean one doctor who prescribes two different contradictory medicines. "May have certain side effects." Do you ever read the label? I've seen blood thinners prescribed to hemophiliacs. PEOPLE ARE FALLIBLE C'mon, sheepy, we're going to the "laughter house". Inaction is still action. "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Rush One person standing for a cause rarely works well. "You stand in front of tanks, the tanks are gonna win." - Sick Puppies But, it's a start. How many grains of sand make a heap? --Steve[/quote] "...ask not what your Country can do for you - ask what you can do for your Country" |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by MnSpring on 04/22/17 at 16:22:45 “...ask not what your Country can do for you - ask what you can do for your Country" Awesome JFK Quote. Yet, “…ask what you can do for your Country…” Means: (According to the, ’Snowflakes’, and, ‘Fairy Dust Sprinklers’) Standing in the street and crying, because you don’t get, FREE. Protesting and NOT, knowing,” WHAT”, you are protesting, and causing ANY KIND of Violence/Destruction you can. Dishing, every chance one gets, to SLAM, the POTUS. Or does it mean: If you have a objection, state it, in a way that is understood, and apply a alternative. Protest, in a sane, rational way. But, I guess, the, ’Snowflakes’, and, ‘Fairy Dust Sprinklers’, have a different view. |
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Title: Re: The $500B Man (told ya) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/22/17 at 20:14:07 Removing a roadblock to drilling and putting oil on the open market, pushing Russia towards energy independence, means They BUY less oil out of the OPEC cartel. That, in turn, lowers competition For the oil that is produced and sold on the global market. The stockholders, people all across the country, get PAID dividends. That money is saved or spent into the economy. The People benefit. Your complaint about Trickle Down economics is nothing new to me or anything I disagree with. This is Not trickle down. https://www.thebalance.com/trickle-down-economics-theory-effect-does-it-work-3305572 |
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