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Message started by HillSavage on 04/10/17 at 18:39:02

Title: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running Fine.
Post by HillSavage on 04/10/17 at 18:39:02

Was trying to ride my '97 Savage up a dirt drive way and all of a sudden I smelled the clutch burn and the motor would die. Fired it up and tried to drive up hill two more times and then engine power wouldn't transfer to wheel and bike just sat idling. Any thoughts? Now when I push bike there is definitely a weird clunk to the point where I don't want to move. sounds like binding on gear or metal then frees up for rest of rotation. Thank you.

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by verslagen1 on 04/10/17 at 23:02:49

Quote:

dirt drive way

check for rocks in you drive belt, you might have to remove the pulley cover.

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/11/17 at 08:07:01

Thanks Verslagen, will be checking on bike in a few hours. Ps, do you have any cam chain adjusters, finally got cash together. Was going to order yesterday, however bike failed.

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/11/17 at 19:46:19

22312627383533313A65540 wrote:

Quote:

dirt drive way

check for rocks in you drive belt, you might have to remove the pulley cover.

Didn't see any rocks in drive belt but after transferring bike between trucks and driveways I think it is rolling better. Bike still fires right up but it is hard to shift through gears and the bike will not drive itself in any gear. Pulled timing chain and clutch cover, smells burned, oil is dark and there is definitely wear on clutch. Any ideas?

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/17 at 20:01:22

How much slack in your cable?
Can you flip the clutch lever around some?

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/17 at 20:03:01

Is that rod getting pushed in when you put the cover on?
Have you told us everything you've done?

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by batman on 04/11/17 at 20:11:31

what type ,and weight oil was in the bike?

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/11/17 at 22:23:49

382721263B3C0D3D0D35272B60520 wrote:

How much slack in your cable?
Can you flip the clutch lever around some?

Clutch lever can move about halfway through motion freely, is that what you mean? Feels kinda loose.

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/11/17 at 22:26:46

3F2026213C3B0A3A0A32202C67550 wrote:

Is that rod getting pushed in when you put the cover on?
Have you told us everything you've done?

Which rod? Yea, I just bought bike a little bit ago, haven't had many dollars to tinker with. Need to get verslagen cam chain adjuster, let me know if there is any other information you need.

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/11/17 at 22:29:33

292A3F262A257F734B0 wrote:

what type ,and weight oil was in the bike?

Forget right now, but I bought from a bike shop and it's the right kind; sales rep and Inboth checked before inbought it.

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by verslagen1 on 04/11/17 at 22:47:39

1B3D32363D163938355C0 wrote:

[quote author=292A3F262A257F734B0 link=1491874742/0#6 date=1491966691]what type ,and weight oil was in the bike?

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/17 at 22:54:52

You really need to read what is in the oil. The New and Improved crap will mess your clutch up.
How many miles since the oil change?

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/12/17 at 11:03:10

5A495E5F404D4B49421D2C0 wrote:

[quote author=1B3D32363D163938355C0 link=1491874742/0#9 date=1491974973][quote author=292A3F262A257F734B0 link=1491874742/0#6 date=1491966691]what type ,and weight oil was in the bike?

Forget right now, but I bought from a bike shop and it's the right kind; sales rep and Inboth checked before inbought it.[/quote]
new bikes don't need what we need.
look it up and let us know so we can make sure it's best for you.[/quote]
Going to be out and about today, I'll let y'all know this evening when I get back to the hill. Many thanks!

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/12/17 at 11:39:00

2B382F2E313C3A38336C5D0 wrote:

[quote author=1B3D32363D163938355C0 link=1491874742/0#9 date=1491974973][quote author=292A3F262A257F734B0 link=1491874742/0#6 date=1491966691]what type ,and weight oil was in the bike?

Forget right now, but I bought from a bike shop and it's the right kind; sales rep and Inboth checked before inbought it.[/quote]
new bikes don't need what we need.
look it up and let us know so we can make sure it's best for you.[/quote]
Redline full synthetic 10w-40 is what I utilized for the oil change, I am pretty positive, called the shop.

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/12/17 at 11:39:35

594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 wrote:

You really need to read what is in the oil. The New and Improved crap will mess your clutch up.
How many miles since the oil change?

Redline Full Synthetic 10w-40. Maybe a thousand max.

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by verslagen1 on 04/12/17 at 12:32:54

good stuff

Quote:

IF YOU WANT A REAL "overkill" SUPER-OIL (way way beyond reasonable needs all by itself)
Redline 10W40 Motorcycle Oil is $10-$14 a quart here (the price varies month on month from Amazon when bought by the case).

This motorcycle oil whups everybody on ZDDP by like twice over, so don't be looking for a measly mere JASO rating on it.

Specs are here http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=109&pcid=21
Free Amazon Prime shipping is at http://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-42424-10W40-Motorcycle/dp/B0084DZ08W/ref=sr_1_...

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by verslagen1 on 04/12/17 at 12:48:22

Looks like your clutch is toast.

Where are you located?

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/12/17 at 13:16:01

786B7C7D626F696B603F0E0 wrote:

Looks like your clutch is toast.

Where are you located?

Northern California, any suggestions on a clutch that I should go with?

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by verslagen1 on 04/12/17 at 13:24:19

795F50545F745B5A573E0 wrote:

Northern California, any suggestions on a clutch that I should go with?

Title: Re: Gears Won't Engage Motor Seems to Be Running F
Post by HillSavage on 04/12/17 at 13:26:18

5D4E5958474A4C4E451A2B0 wrote:

[quote author=795F50545F745B5A573E0 link=1491874742/15#17 date=1492028161]Northern California, any suggestions on a clutch that I should go with?

You don't have much choice... OEM, Barret with OEM materials or Barret with Kevlar.

If you're thinking of any performance upgrades, then go with Kevlar.
and a SV650 clutch is the same as a LS650 with an extra disk.[/quote]
Like these? http://www.barnettclutches.com/941/suzuki/0/0/1995-suzuki-ls-650p-savage.html Thanks for all the help!