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Message started by Ed L. on 03/10/17 at 11:46:09

Title: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Ed L. on 03/10/17 at 11:46:09

Well it's time for another Daytona Beach Bike Week and was wondering if any Savage rider is showing up.
The event is one of those things that I always attend just because I'm living half way between the Daytona Speedway and the Cabbage Patch on Rt 415.
Let me know, maybe we can ride Main Street together. :D

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/10/17 at 11:53:55

Ed, earlier this winter we were trying to put together a trip to do just that, but we had no place to pitch a tent.

Got a patch of grass for us to work off of ????

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Ed L. on 03/10/17 at 12:35:53

2 1/2 acres grass and woods, I even have a 8x10 foot canvas wall tent used for re-enacting along with a smaller regular pop up tent.
Didn't pick up on everybody from the board trying to get a trip together for a Bike Week trip.
I've no problems with something like that but my wife is a little leary about nasty dirty bikers hanging out on the property although she's married to one ;). Gotta tread gently to get her OK, she always wants to get out of town for these events.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 03/10/17 at 13:45:25

Been there once, and I don't want to ever go back! Too many people and too crowded and HOT!!!

Did you ever notice that every time there are a lot of people, there is also a crowd?

Also did the Deal's Gap Dragon's tail - NEVER want to go back!

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by springman on 03/10/17 at 15:18:04

Hey Buckeye, just curious. What made you never want to go back to the Dragon? I've only been once but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

As far as Daytona bike week, I have never been, it is a bit far for me, I really do not care for crowds, but I think I would like to try it once just to see what it is like.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Ed L. on 03/10/17 at 16:22:13

One of the best thing about Bike Week is heading over to the track and getting free rides at the factory tents. There are antique and classic races over at the track also which put on a good show. Main St and up by Destination Daytona is just a big parking lot for most of the week. I try to stay off the roads cause of all the bikers and now we have spring breakers coming in also. Half a million are expected this week :o

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/10/17 at 17:42:07

64457E6D0F210 wrote:

Ed sounds like he is issuing an invite. Ed, slap some dates and a location on it and we will put it in the list of rides for 2017.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Ed L. on 03/10/17 at 18:02:31

Biketober Fest is the next big bike event coming up around here. It brings in about half of what Bike Week does. I'll work on getting the OK from my wife, at least she didn't say NO! when I mentioned a get together to her.
I'll work on it and post dates and directions.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by MMRanch on 03/10/17 at 21:40:20

:)

I like getting together with my bike buds ! I like camp-outs. I like cook-outs .

I hope my calendar ain't all used up on Bikeober Fest week ! ;D

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 03/12/17 at 07:32:02

6C6F6D767178727E711F0 wrote:

I am glad I did it once. I now can say I did. However, I am a more casual, non-aggressive rider, and there were dozens of crotch rockets there who just wanted to prove that they could do dangerous things faster, and to other's danger, ride from corner to corner and breakneck (literally) speed! Thoroughly spoiled it for me. I couldn't wait to get out and move on, on my trip back to Ohio.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/12/17 at 10:18:03

It is important to understand the "riding style" for each trip -- our normal mountain rides would likely be a mismatch for Piedmont right now as they can go faster than is comfortable for "the casual rider".

A better first trip would be the Santeetlah Exploratory. The upcoming Santeetlah trip with the various flavors of big bulky oversized chocolate chunkies all running in a row is going to be a slower paced, exploratory style trip. I for one will be on a Suzuki Barcalounger, a heavier slower much more comfortable bike that needs breaking in to the mountain experience. Without breaking it, or me preferably ......

Later on when we go to Kickstand Lodge I will likely trailer in my lighter Savage and go off here and there with the crew in our more normal fashion .... watching MM destroy the local wildlife and mebbe getting in a squirrel or a 'possum of my very own yet again, who knows .....

Porkchops and cagers will always be on the menu for sure -- you can always count on that, I think. Tea and Crumpets are a special treat, as is the very rare $40,000 Ducati.

Know your ride ..... know your co-riders

Of the two trips, Piedmont would find more to like with the Santeetlah Exploratory trip as a first experience.

Be warned, we all started out like Piedmont but we all got corrupted by the mountains over time and doing those multiple trips per year.

MM once believed in double yellow lines and speed limits (and back in his home state there was a good reason for that). In NC the default speed limit is 55 mph and up in the high mountains you simply can't go that fast, so it is in essence a license to speed to your heart's content, and we learned better and better braking, cornering and riding techniques from the older riders as we went along. MM and I learned from Big Zuk, who was our Mountain Riding Yoda daddy.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Ruttly on 03/12/17 at 11:49:06

One should always ride within their own limits/comfort level. When riding with faster riders hang back enjoy the ride , in time you will find yourself taking up the rear of the pack , sooner or later , your in the pack or leading it. It's a natural state of progression. Never ride beyond your bikes capability , something I have always done and after 40+ years am finally learning riding on the edge isn't always the fastest way between to points. Modifying my style allows me time to enjoy the countryside , however I can still focus on the road and turn the switch on when needed.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/12/17 at 13:55:34

Corruption of the newbie, part 2

"There is no way in Heck we were going 75 mph around those turns ....."

Someone lays their device on the table and sez "display high speed" and the device says 78.5

"No Way !!!! My Savage can't go that fast !!!"

yep, it can ..... and it will, especially on a wide downhill Cherohala sweeper curve.

;) ..... see the little duckies all in a row ......

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by MMRanch on 03/12/17 at 14:29:01

MM and I learned from Big Zuk, who was our Mountain Riding Yoda daddy.

Big Zuk's fault ? :-?

I wondered who "corrupted" you OldFeller ... ;D

Sure is a lot of FUN ! :o .... till the floor boards can't fold-up anymore and the nub starts gouging the pavement and lifting the rear tire into little "Hopping" motions ... :-[

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by verslagen1 on 03/12/17 at 14:34:54

183B3331323B3B3225570 wrote:

"No Way !!!! My Savage can't go that fast !!!"

Oldfeller says don't worry, you'll catch up with us when we stop. ;)

Lancer opens his coats displaying a number flashy baubles and says I got something for you... :o

Versy leans in, glances both ways... do you want it to? [smiley=evil.gif]

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/12/17 at 14:38:27

Zuk and Lancer corrupted and trained both you and me. Toymaker was self-corrupting (kinda like Zeb was).

We all took turns corrupting Dave.

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Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Srotag on 03/12/17 at 18:07:48

Here for a couple of weeks at Flagler Beach... new batt in today before the rain and wind started.

Better wx by Wed we hope. 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by springman on 03/12/17 at 18:33:34

Hey Buckeye, I understand. The time I went to the dragon I guess I was lucky cause I do not remember too many crotch rockets on those days. The only time I really felt uncomfortable and I pulled over was when a group of idiots driving Miatas started to whiz by. My riding was fairly spirited, at least for me, and my greatest concern was not someone from behind but rather someone coming the other way. I had great fun, but you cannot deny there is an element of danger there.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Dave on 03/13/17 at 05:30:53

I really like the Dragon - it a very fun road to ride when there is light traffic, and a very entertaining circus when the crowds arrive.

The Dragon is a great ride some days....not so good other days and it is best to stay away when it gets too crowded. We were in the area one weekend the Ford Mustang club was there....too big of cars and too much horsepower for a tight road like the Dragon - you could see their front tires rolled over and scrubbing off rubber in the tight curves.....I am sure there were a lot of folks drifting over the center line that weekend. We stayed away when the Mustang club was awake and driving the road......since it is a club they tended to stick together - so they were easy to keep track of. Another weekend it was the Honda Civic guys....and also the Miata guys.

Early on any morning, late Sunday afternoon, or the middle of the week the Dragon has light traffic. When we stay at the Kickstand we can get rolling and ride the Dragon before the sport bike guys get their Starbucks.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/14/17 at 06:47:16

I like the Dragon road just fine (in smaller doses as I get older). Sitting on the benches drinking a Dew while watching the girls is fine too. The guys and their bikes are interesting too.

Staying at the Dragon Lodge as a trip base, we have been there and done that. There are other places to stay that offer a lot better bang for the bucks and the Dragon Lodge also has a bad repeat habit of hitting you up for violating their little "rules" that allow them to tack on $40-60 at the very end of a group stay, a dirty trick I really don't care for.

If you want a tight arsed curly road with much less traffic, Hwy 32 has over double the distance and turns that the Dragon has.

I'm getting older, the riding experience on the Cherohala Skyway is more to my taste now.

Group stays at Blue Ridge or Kickstand are much better/relaxing, IMHO.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by springman on 03/14/17 at 08:08:54

Dang Oldfeller, are you mellowing out??? ;D

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 08:46:07

Hwy 32 runs through a few states.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/14/17 at 09:16:46

I am still subject to relapses ..... especially on roads like this. This is a Tennessee state road 32 not the big long Interstate 32.

Some of you guys are going to age out without ever coming up to the mountains to ride with the group.

This will wind up being a regretted thing, I do believe.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 14:03:41

That's a great looking road. I'd like to see those mountains. Way east side of the state..

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/14/17 at 14:41:51

No, west side at the NC / Tennessee boarder on I-40.

If you made it up for Kickstand you could put in a special request, or it would be a natural normal type run for a future Blue Ridge Campground trip should one happen.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 15:20:28

Having trouble getting homed in. Got a town name?

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/14/17 at 15:28:13

Get on I-40 at Asheville, track north to Tennessee. At the NC/Tennessee state line, zoom in until you can see Hwy 32, it is a little road that accesses I-40 within 500 feet of the NC/Tennessee border.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 16:50:23

That's a Long ride..

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by MMRanch on 03/14/17 at 17:46:18

JOG

Stop by Lynchburg ,Tn. and rest-up for a day . Then we'll go over there together . ;) No need for a tent , if ya OK with a couch. Robbinsville NC. is only a short days ride from here.

The ride from Houston Tx . is 850 ish miles , but there are Free campgrounds on the Natchez Trace Parkway (nice places) .

Same deal on the way back !

Adventure to tell the Grand kids about ! :)

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/14/17 at 18:27:38

Bust it up into 2 each ~400~ mile sections to get to MM's place. Use the free camping site tool to find free camping.

https://freecampsites.net/

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/17 at 02:16:55

I'm in Longview, I can be in Shreveport in an hour.
That's a possible, I could see doing that.
I have a backpack cot.. but if someone has a couch that wouldn't have me hunting a chiropractor, cool..

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/15/17 at 09:01:02

That's sorta funny, I was BORN in Longview, Texas.

I'd plan with an extra early day and stay with MM for a day to allow for body recovery before trekking the rest of the way.

Company on rides is always a good thing ....

Justin, now, to get you added to the trip list, tell me which trip you are planning to attend again. Then you need to post on that thread so folks can see that you are coming, etc etc.

;)

This here thing on this thread is a "way out in the future" planning thread for a trip that hasn't even become listed as it is "too young" --- Ed L hasn't even given out dates yet.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/17 at 12:23:32

Dude, my health has been so sketchy the last few months, IDK,, I Want to go,and I might be able to do it..but a couple of days to get somewhere would probably make being there a waste of time. I'd probably be crapped out for two or three days..I'll wait to see, but whichever is closer to Longview would be the most likely.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by springman on 03/15/17 at 13:36:54

Hey Jog, I do not know how far you are from the Dallas area, but if you wanted to ride to Oklahoma to Lancer's you could meet up with Kenny and me somewhere in that area. I think the ride from Kenny's to Lancer's is probably less than 300 miles. I do not really know the route yet, but it is just a thought. :-?

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/17 at 13:49:41

I thought Lancer had a previous engagement,

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by verslagen1 on 03/15/17 at 14:46:36

223D3B3C21261727172F3D317A480 wrote:

I thought Lancer had a previous engagement,

he's talking about this...

Quote:

Lancer Oklahoma trip extended to 19-28 May

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by springman on 03/15/17 at 14:58:30

Yep, dat's what I be talking about.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/17 at 15:08:35

Im not able to commit to anything now, but if it looks good later and it won't cause problems if I join in, Oklahoma is in range and I would like to meet and ride with that bunch.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/15/17 at 18:06:55

3D2224233E3908380830222E65570 wrote:

I would like to meet and ride with that bunch.

Done.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by Oldfeller on 03/15/17 at 18:19:12

I'm getting old. MM's getting old. Lancer is getting old. Versy is getting old. Justin is getting old. Even Dave says he might be getting a wee little bit old.

We are all getting old(er).

We need to attempt to take care of each other in whatever fashions we can and to try to ride in pairs (or more) so there is always somebody there to recognize trouble when it arrives.

(some of us are too darn stubborn to even admit that trouble just rolled up and bit us)

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/17 at 18:24:45

I ain't Old, just high mileage.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by MMRanch on 03/15/17 at 22:39:40

Heck JOG

Find us a place to camp/stay in Longview and we can ride your favorite roads sometime !

We might just take turns buying ya dinner while we're there ! ;)

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/16/17 at 14:11:09

Mighty fine offer, but it's really not what I want. I wanna come meet you guys and ride some good roads. There is one good long, no stops, road, probably eight miles,buncha good curves. It's a fair ride to get to and it's not a road to take to get to anywhere I wanna go,
I would hope there is somewhere between a few of us we could meet up and camp and ride.
I'd expect there is a good place Somewhere in Arkansas.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by MMRanch on 03/16/17 at 20:16:00

Jog

I'd expect there is a good place Somewhere in Arkansas.

I went to The CMA campsite at "Iron Mountain" last year and it was a very good ride . It was about 600 miles one way so I took the SuperSlab where I could , but the last part was 2 lane blacktop - fun roads. Just North of the Iron Mountain area is a lot of undeveloped woodland and winding mountain roads. Not as intense as NC but just as never-ending. I'll bet there are lots of logging roads camp-sites , If we need a "Base-Camp" , I'd be OK with a Pay-to-Camp place.

Title: Re: Daytona Beach Bike Week
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/16/17 at 21:24:00

We vacationed years ago in Hot Springs. I had a Guzzi Nevada. I went for rides, out around Hot Springs, pretty good, but not like the roads you guys play on.