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Message started by JF on 03/02/17 at 01:32:28

Title: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by JF on 03/02/17 at 01:32:28

Good days to all, and thank you for accepting me as a member of SuzukiSavage.
My question, maybe it is stupid, but it is not possible to open a "bull's-eye" similar to the oil control to always have the tensor and chain monitored?
greetings to all!
JF

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by youzguyz on 03/02/17 at 05:38:58

Might be possible, but the window would have to be put in the clutch cover in the oil filter recess. Someone who has an engine apart (or the pieces readily available) could verify.

You would have to pull the oil filter cover and filter to look at it.
Better than having to pull the entire clutch cover.

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/17 at 07:21:22

That's a fine idea, and should be done at the same time as reworking the design to include a kickstarter .

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by verslagen1 on 03/02/17 at 07:22:31

I made one of these, but you need to make a measurement when the cover is open.
http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/insert7.jpg
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1448856365

The hole you'd need is thru the backside of the filter cavity.
Then you'd need a plug, couldn't sit very tall or be very deep.

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by batman on 03/02/17 at 08:24:50

And would have to withstand full oil pressure,55psi +/-

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by youzguyz on 03/02/17 at 10:36:28

He is talking about a window, like the oil site glass.

IF the positioning was so you could see the tensioner, then all you would need to do is cut a hole in the oil filter cavity and JB weld a piece of glass or plastic (like the oil site glass) in place.

Versy says there isn't much room so mount it on the inside or outside?.. where ever it would fit best I guess.

Even if it did weep a little bit.. so what? It's leaking into the oil filter cavity.

No, I don't intend to modify mine.. I leave that for the experts :P

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by JF on 03/02/17 at 10:39:25

Something like this ... it's just a sketch. With a medium resistant glass or similar heat resistent material.

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by JF on 03/02/17 at 10:42:40

This proposal has a greater field of vision. Just figure out where to cut ... well it's just an idea. :-?

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by youzguyz on 03/02/17 at 10:50:03

737F390 wrote:

This proposal has a greater field of vision. Just figure out where to cut ... well it's just an idea. :-?

It would have to be further to the back to avoid the oil passages in the cover.
Here is a picture from Savage Greg's CD.

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by verslagen1 on 03/02/17 at 11:49:34

The top center hole isn't possible and the forward hole is useless.

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by gizzo on 03/02/17 at 12:46:42

maybe you could do something clever with fibre optic cable and watch it from the riders seat.

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by zipidachimp on 03/02/17 at 12:54:25

might as well petition suzuki to redesign it! same chance! 8-)

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by batman on 03/02/17 at 14:24:50

An oil site class if it leaked would flow from the filter area back to the sump, decreasing oil pressure to the motor and not be easy to detect.It would be much better to purchase one of verslagen's tensioners an have no worry .

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by JF on 03/02/17 at 14:35:15

Well, it was just an idea ... interesting on paper, but difficult in practice.
Little space, and not very well located ...
I will continue to thinking! :P

You may end up introducing a camera through the oil fill hole. [smiley=happy.gif]

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by youzguyz on 03/02/17 at 15:51:17

6A697C6569663C30080 wrote:

An oil site class if it leaked would flow from the filter area back to the sump, decreasing oil pressure to the motor and not be easy to detect. .

I see your point.
IF I were to do this crazy mod, I would definitely mount the glass inside the filter cavity, so the oil pressure would push it against the cover instead of trying to push it away.

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by JF on 03/03/17 at 01:13:56

That was the idea. The glass goes inside.
:D :D :D :D :D
The sight glass is visible only when the cover is removed from the oil filter space, which remains "dry".

The problem is that there is really little space and it is possible that the porthole does not properly focus the tensor.
But crazy ideas are very interesting! We need a brainstorming!

Title: Re: can chain tensor bull's-eye
Post by batman on 03/03/17 at 02:39:16

The other problem being ,It is very hard to see anything in the dark, a window that small isn't going to admit much light on the subject,and allow you to also eyeball it. Taking off the oil filler cap isn't going to help due to the "wall" between it and the tensioner.