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Message started by JIbber Jabber on 02/26/17 at 19:29:04

Title: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by JIbber Jabber on 02/26/17 at 19:29:04

Two weeks ago I dislocated my shoulder as a result of my bike slipping in wet conditions. At the time I was only going 5 mph, and was wearing a 20lb backpack, and I believe it was the weight of my backpack that caused me to dislocate my shoulder. Are there any rails or racks out there that can support the weight of a 20-25 backpack ? All suggestions welcome (besides for the Suzuki backseat/sissybar/rack combo).

Thx

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by Job on 02/26/17 at 20:01:29

Jibber Jabber, I have the Suzuki Back rest and I modified a luggage carrier from a Yamaha Riva scooter to fit. The rack is twice as long as the stock rack and it has tie down lugs to secure your cargo. However the height of the sissy bar is not high enough to secure a tall back pack to. Your best bet would be to get a taller (14-16 inch tall) back rest and place your pack in front of the back rest on the passenger seat and use a small cargo net to secure it. I had a similar accident a couple of years ago and I broke 2 ribs. It is a good thing you weren't going much faster as the severity of the injuries goes up dramatically with speed. Hope you heal quickly. Jeff

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by batman on 02/26/17 at 20:24:48

The trouble with backpacks is the tend to carry the weight to high, even a small pair of saddlebags would bring the load lower,carry as much,and might help protect your bike and you in a fall.If you need to you could roll up an empty backpack against the back rest to carry things away from the bike if that suits your needs.

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by IslandRoad on 02/27/17 at 01:18:13

FWIW, I installed a pair of small saddlebags to carry basics on day rides, like a hat, sunscreen etc. When I need to carry more I put the heavy stuff in the bags and light bulky stuff in a backpack.

But I guess it depends what you need to carry. I couldn't go camping with my setup.


4447524B4748121E260 wrote:
The trouble with backpacks is the tend to carry the weight to high, even a small pair of saddlebags would bring the load lower,carry as much,and might help protect your bike and you in a fall.If you need to you could roll up an empty backpack against the back rest to carry things away from the bike if that suits your needs.


Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by JIbber Jabber on 02/27/17 at 10:10:35

Thanx for your responses  

Rob: can you post pictures and links of your setup.  

Batman/Islandroad: I use my pack back to carry papers and therapy supplies and I commute to  a few different locations daily, so saddle bags wouldn't be convenient or be big enough.

The closest thing that I found was Ventura bike racks that supposedly has one for the s40, but I just wanted to know if anybody had or was using something else.

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by Jasbee on 03/01/17 at 14:29:00

The Ventura racks are excellent

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by Jasbee on 03/01/17 at 14:30:15

And here's another shot

Jasbee

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by Jasbee on 03/01/17 at 14:54:14

Finally found a picture where the Ventura is without bag so you can see it better

Jasbee

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by batman on 03/01/17 at 20:08:59

It's just my opinion,but the Ventura places the weight of anything you carry ,beyond the rear axle ,even more so if put it on the rear of the rack to make way for riding two up.This takes weight off the front tire and may hamper handling ,and breaking,and the weight is even higher than the fuel tank.On a small and light bike such as ours ,this could be bad.If you move the rear turn signals back near the taillight, as many have,there is room for saddlebags that would easily handle as much or more,you could find bags that have quick releases and they could be carried inside much like a briefcase.

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by Jasbee on 03/02/17 at 14:44:13

I travel with a double Ventura bag pack and don't find any handling or braking problems caused by excess rear weight, but I ensure I don't put heavy stuff in the rearmost bag. You can carry a lot of gear with this setup! The bags come on and off easily. By comparison I find panniers fiddly.

Jasbee

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by Jasbee on 03/02/17 at 14:51:37

And here's another picture. I think it looks neat, a small bike punching above its weight. I include a 5 litre plastic jerry can in my luggage, so range is vastly improved, theoretically up to 375 kms, but certainly safe to go over 300 kms

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by batman on 03/03/17 at 02:20:12

I am glad to see you wear a full face helmet ,that way if someone ever rear ends you and those packs drive you through the windshield you'll have some protection,I'm not to thrilled by the 5 liter bomb being in the mix, you may have to change your name from Jasbee to Fireball.but to each his own.

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by pam on 03/03/17 at 05:46:07

Jasbee ... do you have a link for that backrest rack??? or can you give me more info...as is it ..made for the s 40 or is this and universal rack ....?? i do like that alot...just dont know if i can find it in USA

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by youzguyz on 03/03/17 at 06:09:35


34252927440 wrote:
Jasbee ... do you have a link for that backrest rack??? or can you give me more info...as is it ..made for the s 40 or is this and universal rack ....?? i do like that alot...just dont know if i can find it in USA


http://www.ventura-mca.com/fitments

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by Jasbee on 03/03/17 at 22:03:22

This should take you right to it:

http://www.ventura-bike.com/product/Suzuki/LS-650-P-FG-PG-K3-Savage

Jasbee

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by pam on 03/04/17 at 22:09:20

thank you  :)

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by JIbber Jabber on 03/06/17 at 20:27:30


63647E786E646D787F72676E780B0 wrote:
The Ventura racks are excellent


Thank you Jasbee for posting those pics and your feedback on the rack. I just purchased it today. Btw, what is that contraption on your handlebar and gas tank?

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 03/11/17 at 10:37:38


4B4C5650464C4550575A4F4650230 wrote:
And here's another shot
Jasbee


Jasbee,

On just the frame itself without the pack, did you have to buy anything else to mount it?  If possible, can you list the items(s) that you had to buy and their part numbers/descriptions?

I want to purchase what you have, but only want to get the frame (and mounting, if necessary) right now.  Thanks

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by Jasbee on 03/12/17 at 15:31:23

In reply to jibber jabber: (1) on the left side h/bars is the switchblock for the Oxford heated grips, (2) on LHS of tank is a stick on clock also made by Oxford. See attached photo

piedmontbuckeye: all parts for installation of Ventura racks for your bike come with the rack. I had the dealer fit it, but it's apparently a simple job

Sorry for delay in replies, I've just returned from an 1100 kms trip to NE Victoria on the bike

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/13/17 at 15:37:52

I just discovered that I posted this on the wrong thread, so I repost it here...

Question for OP:

Was the backpack one that can belt up around your hips with shoulder straps that can be loosened enough so that the weight of the pack can entirely be taken by the seat? I've used a slim full sized backpack with internal frame like this and it is very versatile and stable. If on the other hand it was a pack that was supported by your shoulders only, then I can see that being a problem.

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 03/15/17 at 13:06:33


33342E283E343D282F22373E285B0 wrote:
piedmontbuckeye: all parts for installation of Ventura racks for your bike come with the rack. I had the dealer fit it, but it's apparently a simple job

Sorry for delay in replies, I've just returned from an 1100 kms trip to NE Victoria on the bike



Did you purchase this from you dealer?  I checked the Ventura site as a previous post had the internet address, and it seemed that the only way to get one of these is to buy from a authorized dealer.  Correct?


Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by Jasbee on 03/16/17 at 23:32:56

I've had many Ventura racks over the years, but have always bought from the dealer (I have a great dealer). The racks come from NZ, I have a feeling you can't buy direct, not in Aus anyway. But you certainly can fit them yourself

Jasbee

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by JIbber Jabber on 03/29/17 at 11:07:48


4A535F5E5755544E584F59515F435F3A0 wrote:
[quote author=33342E283E343D282F22373E285B0 link=1488166144/15#18 date=1489357883]

piedmontbuckeye: all parts for installation of Ventura racks for your bike come with the rack. I had the dealer fit it, but it's apparently a simple job

Sorry for delay in replies, I've just returned from an 1100 kms trip to NE Victoria on the bike



Did you purchase this from you dealer?  I checked the Ventura site as a previous post had the internet address, and it seemed that the only way to get one of these is to buy from a authorized dealer.  Correct?

[/quote]

I purchased mine from the dealer in Washington state and received it within a week (I live in Brooklyn). As it turns out, I ordered it in chrome, and the computer said they had it in stock, but after they went to fill the order they noticed the box was empty and said it would take 4-6 weeks to get more from NZ. So they gave me close to $100 discount [ch128513]

Attached pic is with my bike cover on the back and my 20lbs briefcase that dislocated my shoulder [ch128540]


Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by JIbber Jabber on 03/29/17 at 11:13:45

Without my backpack.

Title: Re: Cargo/Backpack rails/rack suggestions.
Post by JIbber Jabber on 03/29/17 at 14:18:04


494E5452444E475255584D4452210 wrote:
In reply to jibber jabber: (1) on the left side h/bars is the switchblock for the Oxford heated grips, (2) on LHS of tank is a stick on clock also made by Oxford. See attached photo

piedmontbuckeye: all parts for installation of Ventura racks for your bike come with the rack. I had the dealer fit it, but it's apparently a simple job

Sorry for delay in replies, I've just returned from an 1100 kms trip to NE Victoria on the bike


Jasbee, thx for that info.

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