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Message started by Serowbot on 02/19/17 at 08:00:54

Title: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by Serowbot on 02/19/17 at 08:00:54

During a rally in Florida on Saturday, Trump said "look what's happening last night in Sweden".

Former Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt tweeted , "Sweden? Terror attack? What has he been smoking? Questions abound."

Trump's world has alternative facts... :-?
Pulled that one right out of his butt... ;D

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by Serowbot on 02/19/17 at 08:18:39

Trump says he had the biggliest electoral win since Reagan...

...except for,... Obama, Obama, Clinton, Clinton, and Bush I... :-?

Trump has alternative facts...

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/19/17 at 08:40:10

Clearly alternative facts are being used.
Just which parties are using them is not something we can actually know. However, both people have reason to push an agenda.
Suggest you do as I've done. Look around for information.
Cute search terms like
No go zones

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by oldNslow on 02/19/17 at 09:05:44

I don't know what Trump supposedly said. But I think what needs to be pulled out of a butt is the  Swedish Foreign Ministers Head if he honestly believes that there isn't a problem.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/sweden-buckling-under-muslim-immigration/

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/768980/Sweden-cover-up-migrant-rape-violent-crime

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by pg on 02/19/17 at 13:07:14

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/18/interview-retired-swedish-police-chief-says-malmo-crime-skyrocketing-due-uncontrolled-immigration-no-go-zones/

Elofsson confirms the disputed ‘no-go-zones’ in Swedish cities are real, and outlines the precautions emergency services have to taken when they want to enter: “We have a number of no-go-zones in Sweden and they are expanding… police can go to these places, but you have to take precautions.

“Years ago you could go with two officers, no problem. Now you have to send four officers and two cars – if the fire brigade want to go, they have to take a police escort. They throw stones and try to stop the fireman from putting out fires.

“They sabotage the police cars. You can’t leave them unguarded – when you come back to it you find the windows smashed and the tyres deflated. It isn’t quite a no-go zone, but we have had to develop special routines to go there”.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by thumperclone on 02/19/17 at 13:45:33

is it time to realize that we have a dysfunctional WH ?

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by MnSpring on 02/19/17 at 16:13:29

Now what can the USA  ‘LEARN’, about:
‘Refugees’  that are in a,  ’Trojan Horse’.
and,  IL-Legal’s,  are  NOT,    ‘Good’    Refugees  or immigrants. ?????

SNOWFLAKES, Stand in the street, and  CRY.
 (see Bot, didn’t call any members here, a ’snowflake’.)
And  Oppose, Anything  and  Everything, to do with  protecting this Nation, and the,  LEAGAL,  Citizens in it.
Than riot, to  support, anything, to do  with  bringing in, MORE,   IL-Legal’s  !!!!

Even the  Swedish  Democrats.
   (unlike those in the USA)
Have acknowledged  the problem.


“…To save Sweden Ekeroth said the country had to close its borders immediately, and investigate those who have recently been awarded citizenships for fraud – to discover if lying about where they came from and why. He also said the country should ban the building of further mosques, and encourage migrants to take advantage of assisted repatriations to their homelands: … In my opinion, we should pay people thousands to go home. It’s cheaper for the Swedish taxpayer that way, and it is better for Sweden long term so we can live in a society in which we feel at home. It is worth it economically and socially”.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/17/getting-islamised-swedens-firebrand-mp-speaks-breitbart-london/


“… The latest poll shows the Sweden Democrats at 27 per cent. This is a sort of explanation of what is going on – the politicians, the media sends out a message that everything is safe and secure, you don’t have to worry. But people act according to their own experience – they see things, they experience things, they talk to their neighbours. And they feel the picture being presented in the media is not entirely accurate.  “We have a lot of children coming to Sweden alone. Most of them are actually teenagers, between 15 and 18, and that is worrying. If we can’t get them integrated into Swedish society, that is a huge recruitment base for criminal gangs and ISIS [The Islamic State]. I am concerned with the lack of integration, we have not succeeded to well at this”.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/18/interview-retired-swedish-police-chief-says-malmo-crime-skyrocketing-due-uncontrolled-immigration-no-go-zones/

Such a force may have arisen in Sweden with the Sweden Democrats, a nationalist party which is demanding the country exit the European Union and limit immigration. And Davis argues there is still time for Europe to save itself – even Sweden.
“Without this recognition, Sweden and other Western governments will continue to allow themselves to be subverted and outmaneuvered by Muslim activists who possess none of their ‘multicultural’ scruples. While we must unflinchingly point out the seriousness of the situation, we must not give in to despair that the situation is beyond remedying – in Sweden or in the rest of Europe.”

http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/sweden-buckling-under-muslim-immigration/

"So they want to open up their borders up to everyone and anyone."From the onset of the refugee crisis, there was a surge in gun violence and rape - the statistics were clear."But locals were just said 'it was men, not refugees' so the majority in Sweden still want to have an open door policy. It’s confounding, really."He added: "The Swedish government try to cover up refugee rapes."There were a spate of violent attacks and sexual assaults at a music festival but officials tried to cover up who the prepetrators were.”The government has gone out of its way to cover up these figures."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/768980/Sweden-cover-up-migrant-rape-violent-crime

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/19/17 at 17:13:22

Anyone care to explain why we should import the refugees?
I thought the whole idea of studying history was to be able to see the results of choices made by others and avoid doing things that resemble the effects of stepping on a sand trap rake.
Why would ANYONE want to import people who have Destroyed Germany and other places. Frikken get real.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by MnSpring on 02/19/17 at 17:38:54


312E282F32350434043C2E22695B0 wrote:
Anyone care to explain why we should import the refugees?

I thought the whole idea of studying history was to be able to see the results of choices made by others and avoid doing things that resemble the effects of stepping on a sand trap rake.
Why would ANYONE want to import people who have Destroyed Germany and other places. Frikken get real.


YEP    !!!!!
The, ’SNOWFLAKES”,
    (not referring to any member of this site.   That  OK   BOT ?)

Are Just,   "Protesting that”, JUST,  because they were ’TOLD’ to.
NOT,  because, they, ‘Learned, Studied, Experienced’, Anything.  
LOLOOOOOOOOOOL

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by WebsterMark on 02/19/17 at 17:55:21

My company's  HQ is in Sweden. The people over there tell me yes, there is a problem. Yes, the media hides it, downplays it.

Put it this way, if skinheads did 1/2 (hell, 1/10) what the Muslim immigrants did in Germany and Sweden, the Snowflakes would lead every news story with it. Fakenews is not just making stories up about Trump, it's also censoring what doesn't help the narrative. Also, if this wasn't happening, Merkel wouldn't be fighting for her political life.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/19/17 at 18:03:05

Settles it for me! We owe it to the refugees And America to import them, to every place where the popular vote went to Hillary.
They wouldn't sit around the table whining about being surrounded by queers, they'd be rejoicing about the
Target Rich environment.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/19/17 at 19:27:33

After all the
Everything is Okay lies,
You decide if these claims would likely be true or false
Try to remember, illegals get the Local Resident discount at college here. And other fun goodies.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9901/sweden-migrants-costs

Gee, give them privilege ahead of your own citizens. We're every bit as stupid. We waste money and we send foreign aid around the world, while we have Vets suffering and citizens in poverty. GENIUSES we are.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by oldNslow on 02/21/17 at 08:10:48

"Nothin' to see here folks. Just move along now. "

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02/21/rioting-erupts-in-immigrant-dominated-swedish-suburb.html

Read between the lines.

Kind of reminds me of when a bunch of "youths" run wild in a shopping mall in this country and the press very pointedly leaves out any mention of the ethnicity of said "youths".

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by Serowbot on 02/21/17 at 08:44:20

The scary thing here, Is that Trump is getting his intel and deciding policy based on Fox News reports...

The leader of the free world is less informed than the average American... and we aren't as informed as most of the free world...
We're on a bus and the driver is DUi... :-?

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by oldNslow on 02/21/17 at 11:07:20

I don't care where Trump get his news from. The problems in Sweden with Muslim immigrants are very real regardless of how much their government and press try to minimize them. Just like in Great Britain, Germany and France.

I don't care if Trump runs around naked with his hair on fire, as long as he does everything he can to keep from importing those same problems to this country.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by WebsterMark on 02/21/17 at 11:26:02

Sew, i've been to Sweden, our company HQ is there, I know people who live there, yes there's a problem.

perhaps you should be more concerned why cnn & msnbc downplay attacks to match their agenda.

put it this way, imagine a christian group were attacking gays,  what would msnbc have to say?

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by T And T Garage on 02/21/17 at 11:38:04


46787975677B7A140 wrote:
I don't care where Trump get his news from.

Really???  What if it was msnbc?

The problems in Sweden with Muslim immigrants are very real regardless of how much their government and press try to minimize them. Just like in Great Britain, Germany and France.

Crime rates from 2005 in Sweden actually show a slight decrease....

I don't care if Trump runs around naked with his hair on fire, as long as he does everything he can to keep from importing those same problems to this country.


Well, he's not making anything any better by parroting fox "news".  His ban on immigration was a poorly thought out disaster and he's only accomplished one thing - confusion.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/21/17 at 13:31:35

How many no go zones were there in 2005?
Today?
The media has lied to us to achieve political support for things before.
Accept the obvious reality. It might not fit comfortably with the heartfelt desires that some people have. The video, Yes, demanding almost Seven Minutes of attention, Clearly demonstrates the futility of affecting world poverty through immigration. It even makes points for NOT allowing immigration from the most poverty stricken areas, because it's Those people who are the ones who could lead others out of poverty. Go watch it. Or, keep running in circles, never seeing anything to maybe fire those synapses in a different direction.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by T And T Garage on 02/21/17 at 14:07:20


796660677A7D4C7C4C74666A21130 wrote:
How many no go zones were there in 2005?
Today?
The media has lied to us to achieve political support for things before.
Accept the obvious reality. It might not fit comfortably with the heartfelt desires that some people have. The video, Yes, demanding almost Seven Minutes of attention, Clearly demonstrates the futility of affecting world poverty through immigration. It even makes points for NOT allowing immigration from the most poverty stricken areas, because it's Those people who are the ones who could lead others out of poverty. Go watch it. Or, keep running in circles, never seeing anything to maybe fire those synapses in a different direction.


What no-go zones?

https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/people-of-the-no-go-zones-talk-about-what-its-like-to-live-in-no-go-zones-726

http://www.thelocal.se/20160204/the-eight-real-no-go-zones-in-stockholm



Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by Serowbot on 02/21/17 at 14:11:09

There has been an extreme vetting process for immigration all through the Obama years... people wait up to 2 years...  These people want a new life, and sick of the ways of their home country...
Trump will pretend he's doing something new that's already being done and things will go on as before...
We are shouldering a pitiful token of the burdon, and will continue to do so...

Same with the wall... there is already miles of wall in places where it is effective,.. other areas are logistically impossible... Trump will add few here and there and act like he's fixed something... it will pacify his Trumpeteers...

This is a show...  He wants ratings...
I don't think the show will get a second season...
The pilot has been very disappointing.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by WebsterMark on 02/21/17 at 14:18:30

Yea, he sure was wrong about Sweden alright.....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-sweden-riot-rinkeby-20170221-story.html

this was not the first time that's happened. The problem is, your news sources are censoring news that doesn't fit their narrative, so you're in the dark.

seriously, do you really think you can bring in hundreds of thousands of immigrants who belong to a totally different religion than the current population and  not change the culture?

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/21/17 at 14:56:58


4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
There has been an extreme vetting process for immigration all through the Obama years... people wait up to 2 years...  These people want a new life, and sick of the ways of their home country...
Trump will pretend he's doing something new that's already being done and things will go on as before...
We are shouldering a pitiful token of the burdon, and will continue to do so...

Same with the wall... there is already miles of wall in places where it is effective,.. other areas are logistically impossible... Trump will add few here and there and act like he's fixed something... it will pacify his Trumpeteers...

This is a show...  He wants ratings...
I don't think the show will get a second season...
The pilot has been very disappointing.


You didn't watch the video..
It's not SANE to believe that we can save , ohh, never mind, watch the video or keep acting like we owe it to the world to destroy ourselves in an impossible exercise.
We need to stop spreading democracy,
Stop sending billions around the globe, rebuild America.
And Trumps assertion that
We will Rebuild our military, the military that has a bigger budget than several major nations combined needs REBUILT?We the People are being Harvested.


Where America's Terrorists Actually Come From - The Atlantic
The Atlantic › archive › 2017/01 › trum...
Jan 30, 2017 - Syrian refugees have committed zero attacks in the United States.
Jeff Sessions on 20 'Vetted' Terrorist Refugees as Obama Ramps Up
Breitbart › big-government › 2016/08/10
Aug 10, 2016 - Jeff Sessions Highlights 20 'Vetted' Terrorist Refugees as .... According to press reports, Kurbanov began his life as a Muslim, but his ..... Pence vows Trump committed to nervous EU.
Report: 72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim ...
Washington Examiner › article
Feb 11, 2017 - Since 9/11, 72 individuals from the seven mostly Muslim countries covered by President Trump's ...
20 'Vetted' Muslim Refugees Who Turned to Terrorism After Being ...
Citizen Warrior › 2017/02 › 20-vetted-m...
Put this into context: there has been no refugee Buddhists, Christians, Jews who turned to terrorism after being ...
Here's 20 Of Obama's 'Vetted' Muslim Refugees, Look At What ...
freedomdaily.com › obamas-vetted-musli...
We have a list of 20 previous Muslim refugees who were terrorists. This is why we 're taking extra steps to provide safety ...

And Trumps suggestion that we slow down and study a bit closer was just short of declaring slavery legal again.
I'm curious about OUR HISTORICAL POLICY to accept As Refugees Those People who were being singled out due to race or religion and offering Them safe harbor. The numbers of Christians are not very high.
Comparing the refugees from war torn areas to the immigrants who have been here since before the mess was made is folly.
How do we actually vet people who have no identification? They have birth certificates? Can we call their mom and dad and ask is he a good boy? What's a Good boy? Is that one who is ready to kill people who are sexually confused?
Seems irreconcilable to me to stand up and preach for gay rights and then holler to import people who laugh while they murder them.
I'm sure in some parallel universe, where up is down and down is up, it makes sense.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by Trippah on 02/21/17 at 15:34:48

So lets go back a few years to New York New York, when large numbers of Catholic Irish came during the Potatoe Famine.  The then ruling Protestants decried the increased number of crimes while hiring the able men at  slave labor rates to build their factories and mansions.  The crime rates sored, the police went into the "neighborhoods" in pairs etc. The same old nuts, just new names etc.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by MnSpring on 02/21/17 at 15:42:44


16302B3232232A420 wrote:
So lets go back a few years to New York New York, when large numbers of Catholic Irish came during the Potatoe Famine.  The then ruling Protestants decried the increased number of crimes while hiring the able men at  slave labor rates to build their factories and mansions.  The crime rates sored, the police went into the "neighborhoods" in pairs etc. The same old nuts, just new names etc.


Yes, that  DID  happen.

Now I ask,  How many of those, 'Catholic Irish', told the rest of this, Nation;
 "I  will KILL YOU,
if you do not believe in my faith" ?




Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/21/17 at 16:42:33

Looks like the pressures to
Do Good
even if it's not an effective solution,
Even though the earlier immigrants were expected to assimilate, and earn a living,
Even if it's not smart, it Looks like they are coming.
I think the people who want it should contact their congressional representatives and request they be located in their neighborhood.
Then we can see how their cities flourish.

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by MnSpring on 03/02/17 at 16:02:32

“ Several types of crimes such as gang shooting, arson, and sexual assault have increased in Sweden”
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445237/sweden-crime-rates-statistics-immigration-trump-fox-news

“ When Alexandra Mezher was murdered, she was alone in the residence with ten asylum seekers. She was stabbed by one of the “children” she cared for."
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7363/sweden-death-by-immigration

“Two guys pushing down a girl on the bed… I first thought it was a poorly-orchestrated joke. But it was not.”

http://www.infowars.com/sweden-immigrants-arrested-after-gang-raping-woman-on-facebook-live/

"The police are fighting a losing battle against street crime, as well as daily incidents at asylum houses – general disturbances that include fights, rapes and threats.”

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7363/sweden-death-by-immigration  

“ Sweden refuses to disclose any statistics on crime committed by immigrants in the country”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/18/sweden-refuses-to-find-statistics-on-immigrant-crime/

“ Swedish Library Bans Factual Book on Immigration”
“You can’t combine open borders with a welfare state. If you offer generous benefits, and anyone can come and use these benefits, a very large number of people will try to do that. It’s just mathematically impossible for a small country like Sweden to fund that.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/20/library-bans-factual-book-immigration/


(Even,  EVEN,    the  Favorite,  ’snowflake  media’, said):
“ But after riots broke out here in Rinkeby, a short drive from the center of Stockholm, just days later, one local resident told CNN he thought Trump's comments were "spot on. I think everything he said is true.”
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/europe/sweden-trump-refugees-integration/index.html

And it  is   really,  the  ABSOLUTE.   Who, Exactly,   GAVE,    you, a  House   ??????
And reading the rest, it is  just  comments, to, the   ‘Fairy Dust  Sprinkling  Snowflake, Ultra  Liberals’, who can  NOT   SEE,  what is happening !!!!!
"His fellow Syrian, Mahmoud, made a similar appeal for compassion in an interview broadcast Tuesday. “I want a house”, he told Swedish Radio, bemoaning having to live in an apartment, which he said hampered his chances of finding a girlfriend.”
"Katarina Gunnarsson notes that the Syrian’s room, paid for by taxpayers “looks like a hotel room”, but Mahmoud said he had higher expectations of life in Sweden”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/31/migrants-angry-sweden-expected-house-girlfriend/

And  many,  MANY,  more.


So  the USA,  ‘Snowflake,  Ultra-Liberal, media, are telling other,  ‘Snowflakes’,   to believe, their lies, and,  repeat, their LIES.
And ALL, those ‘Snowflake, Fairy Dust  Sprinklers’,
say:
  ”Your  Back Yard, Not  Mine!”

So  Glad  their is now a  POTUS, that can  SEE,  what is  Happening !!!!!!


Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by MShipley on 03/03/17 at 08:31:58

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/02/isis-fighters-attempt-to-blend-in-with-surging-level-of-refugees-leaving-mosul/

Title: Re: Look what happened in Sweden...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/03/17 at 17:31:47

That shouldn't exactly be a surprise. That's what I would do if I was a turrist.

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