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Title: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by DieselBob on 02/05/17 at 07:17:23 Does Oldfeller's mileage competition require that the tire make contact with the pavement? And can it be the front tire? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=376Ns8l6Q7M |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Serowbot on 02/05/17 at 07:40:54 Jeez.. that got my heart started... :o |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Papa Bear on 02/05/17 at 08:14:25 Cool !! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by raydawg on 02/05/17 at 08:30:42 Thats my daily commute ;) |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by T And T Garage on 02/05/17 at 08:50:25 Spectacular riding and great camera work! Love that exhaust note too! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by engineer on 02/05/17 at 11:00:33 I wonder if he belongs to this forum. Maybe he does and never mentions his riding talents. Who could it be? |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by gizzo on 02/05/17 at 12:09:50 Right on! That was a cheery way to start the day. Thanks for posting. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Gary_in_NJ on 02/05/17 at 12:11:40 The old saying applies; it's not the bike, it's the rider. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by pg on 02/05/17 at 12:11:44 Was that you Dave? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by MMRanch on 02/05/17 at 13:49:15 So a striped Savage doubles as a Scrambler just fine ! Good Video 8-) |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/05/17 at 18:08:38 I didn't know most of that was even possible. Imagine that guy on a trials bike or motocross.. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Ruttly on 02/05/17 at 18:50:48 He is one with the bike Wow that savage was taking an a$$ whoopin Seen lots of thumpers ridden that way just never a savage |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Ruttly on 02/05/17 at 19:54:49 I wanna know what's in that thumper what carb what pipe cause I would be amazed it that engine is stock Bet he would slice up the Dragon on his go anywhere do anything Savage |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Kris01 on 02/05/17 at 19:58:51 I thought that was Helen?!?!? :-? |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by old_rider on 02/05/17 at 20:04:48 Looked like it was maybe Helen Georgia from the scenery. :) |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by MMRanch on 02/05/17 at 21:33:36 Maybe we should meet for lunch in Helen Ga. sometime , and see who rides by ? I'll bet there and back is only a two day ride for a lot of us ! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Dave on 02/06/17 at 04:17:01 5C4B4D414E5E2C0 wrote:
No....not me. I could ride my TM125 like that 40 years ago, and my trials bike was incredible to own and ride......but my Savage has never had the front wheel off the ground, and never been off road other than when we park in the grass at the campgrounds or Oldfeller takes us down a gravel road. The fellow has to compensate for the forward pegs by putting one foot on the passenger peg when riding wheelies. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Ruttly on 02/06/17 at 12:17:00 He is also using the rear brake if you look close. Probably a pro stunt bike rider and the savage is just a toy to play with ! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by MMRanch on 02/06/17 at 14:15:53 Ruttly : and the savage is just a toy to play with ! The Savage deffinally makes a nice toy ! I've been looking to see what would keep my bike keeping up with Helen's bike . When sliding across those logs I'd loose a muffler . When doing wheelies in dirt I'd break traction. When doing the 180 turn I'd probably break me. ;D sure was good to see the Savage "could" do all that ! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/17 at 15:00:52 736173616C7F707D763E0 wrote:
I'm just Thrilled knowing you're so happy about what all the bike is capable of. Now I know just how much of a rider I'm not. I wish he would find this place. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by DieselBob on 02/06/17 at 16:03:58 I want to know what that muffler is. I too like the sound. And when you do a freeze frame it's not anything with which I'm familiar. Anyone have a Youtube account to chase this guy down? |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by ohiomoto on 02/07/17 at 05:22:08 Great video!!! I'd like to claim it was me but I can't ride a wheelie to save my life. The rest of it, no problem...on a "proper" bike! Ha, ha! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by springman on 02/07/17 at 08:38:06 WOW!!!! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Serowbot on 02/07/17 at 08:44:55 47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ++1 !!!... |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/07/17 at 08:49:48 Is that you agreeing that you're also not so great or just taking a poke at me? |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Chaz on 02/11/17 at 23:06:58 Such a cool video, beautiful bike. Thanks for sharing! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by philthymike on 02/12/17 at 13:32:04 In this case the saying should be it's not the bike it's the lack of common sense of the rider. Sure you can ride any bike off road and do stunts with it but if it isn't designed for that all your doing is beating the snot out of it and sending it to an early grave while also having no regard for your own safety. Back when I rode hare scrambles I did much of the same stuff this guy did plus some more really insane stuff like jumping off of cliffs and then riding back up them and negotiating mucky bottomless swamps and strong running deep creeks that would make my ATV start floating downstream. I did all of these things on both my trikes and a Reflex 200 trials bike. I could ride the rocky beaches of Long Island Sound at breakneck speeds nobody else in the right mind dare attempt even below the tide mark where all the slimy seaweed covered the rocks and made them like riding on ice. But I wasn't stupid about it. I rode the proper kinds of bikes which were designed for that stuff and further equipped those machines for best performance and safety in those conditions. I could ride my LS650 like that if I was eager to risk some broken bones and destroy the bike along the way but that doesn't make a lick of sense. The person in that video is an irresponsible moron! And he's setting a crappy example too. I've jumped my little Thumpy and I can tell you the landings are not pretty, especially on pavement. Yes it can be done. Should it be done? No! IT's stupid, it's dangerous and it will wreck the bike and you too. I'm sure somebody somewhere is watching this video and thinking I want to be that guy when I grow up. The bad part is that somebody may never get to grow up if he follows that example. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 13:46:31 That jakkass could probably ride a unicycle up a tree when he was three.. Imagine what he could do with a hopped up dirt bike and a motocross track. When he hopped that fallen tree he came down almost vertical, how he kept the handle bars from turning and landing on his head IDK.. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by MMRanch on 02/12/17 at 14:43:57 Bob : I want to know what that muffler is. I too like the sound. And when you do a freeze frame it's not anything with which I'm familiar. Anyone have a Youtube account to chase this guy down? I think this may be it . I've got the chrome version on my S-40 , The small end fits inside the header pipe extension and the big end takes a removal baffle. If ya work your header pipe extension just right then the mounting bolt fits the factory Suzuki mounting hole perfectly , and there is enough uncovered swingarm out past the muffler to use a sport-bike lift on the rear ! ;) |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by philthymike on 02/12/17 at 15:42:16 627D7B7C61665767576F7D713A080 wrote:
Justin I too am surprised he didn't break his chin there. The guy must be hulk strong. That was very bad form. I imagine he'd still have bad form on a proper dirt bike too. Logs, rocks, train tracks etc. should be approached at a steady speed (dictated by the vertical height of obstacle and wheelbase of bike) with the rider standing upright in the middle of the bike. When the front wheel hits it should be encouraged to pop up but throttle off once popped. Before the back wheel hits the rider should be leaned forward since the front is now in the air. Once the back wheel makes contact the throttle should be carefully blipped to make the bike airborne and then maintained just enough so torque keeps the front end up while the bike hops over the obstacle. If the obstacle is longer than a log but narrower than a set of train tracks you simply jump right over it. Tap the back brake a bit after clearing to bring the front end down in a controlled manner for a smoother landing. If the obstacles is longer than train tracks ride a wheelie across the top of it assuming there's clearance to do so. A cruiser's frame geometry isn't suitable for these kinds of acrobatics. That's why dude came down like he did. It could have been worse if he didn't catch himself with his right leg. He'd have really wished he was wearing proper protective gear then. As it is he likely couldn't walk or sleep comfortably for awhile due to pain in his knee, hip and shoulders. I have to say this every time I watch some stunt driving jackass pull this stuff. I bought a full chest protector and the thing saved me from becoming wheelchair bound for the rest of my life the very 1st time I wore it. You want to do daring things off road then fine at least be smart about it and use the proper gear to protect your health and your life. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 16:43:23 Ya know,you're right,,I was so busy being amazed that he was doing all that with a bike I never would have dreamed could possibly be coerced into doing those things that I never even considered being critical of how he was doing it. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by ohiomoto on 02/12/17 at 18:05:42 Crap, you guys are haters. The dude is on a Savage with forward pegs, not mid controls, having fun and doing stuf that most of us shouldn't even attempt on a Savage. And you guys are criticizing his form? ROFLMAO |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Ruttly on 02/12/17 at 18:59:19 Skilled rider on stock suspension , I have never seen someone ride like that with forward controls. Hats off to him , he must be a pro rider of some sort! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by MMRanch on 02/12/17 at 21:32:17 Hay , my hat off to that person --- I'd buy them a Smoke Sausage at the truck stop to see them do it in person ! :) The Ridding Style reminds me of OldFeller a little , .... no mater what gets in the way , "Pour the fuel to it and GO-ON " ;D |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by LANCER on 02/13/17 at 14:19:47 I'm not accusing anyone, but the jacket that dude is wearing is EXACTLY like the one that Verslagen has. MM, Oldfeller, Dave, and anyone else who has ridden with him...think about it. ;) ;D |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Dave on 02/13/17 at 15:08:47 Yep....that is Versy's jacket alright. You can't ride the Savage like a trials bike or enduro bike and attempt to cross logs with the same sort of style...the pegs are on the wrong end of the bike, the Savage doesn't have enough suspension travel....and the Savage has a seat! Same thing applies when riding wheeliies or jumping....the pegs are on the wrong end of the bike! The guy does a good job of making the Savage do things it wasn't built to do.........I am pretty sure I won't be riding with him anytime soon! Here is how you cross logs when the pegs are on the correct end of the bike! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcHanj5FEy8 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcHanj5FEy8[/media] |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/13/17 at 22:34:43 Looks to me like there's ample room to ride around. I think I know how I would go at it. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Rtrnate1283 on 02/14/17 at 16:32:20 That's pretty impressive riding |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Kris01 on 02/14/17 at 17:41:23 5A454344595E6F5F6F57454902300 wrote:
JOG, you're a very wise man! Just go around the durn thing! :D |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/14/17 at 18:05:52 If I still bounced like I did forty years ago I'd still be brave. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by philthymike on 02/17/17 at 13:52:16 4D767B6C7D716A6C777F726D1E0 wrote:
On a trike it's similar technique except you use the big bouncy front wheel to pop the front end up by running right into the log. At least the guy in your video has the sense to wear proper gear. Here's an example of what I used to be into. https://youtu.be/NptDnB4sUMc |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by ohiomoto on 02/17/17 at 15:20:52 Wait, is this you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0y-MisgQj8 |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by philthymike on 02/17/17 at 17:57:46 595E5F595B594259360 wrote:
Yup That was the day my chest protector saved my life. :P Hypothetically - I'm a newbie looking for a beginner bike in the year 2021. I was told the LS650 is what I should consider. So I find the Suzuki Savage forum and read this thread about a guy who does all of this crazy off-road stuff on his savage. Everybody on the site is saying how cool he is and how good of a rider he is and since I am young and impressionable I can't help but to agree with the opinions of all these seasoned pros on the forum. So I went out and bought one from the dealership. Then I took it off-road without any protective gear or practice. I wanted to be cool like the guy in the video so I tried doing the stunts he did. And I wanted to look cool for the old pros on the website. So here watch the video of me wiping out over and over again and completely destroying my brand new bike and hurting myself. See that last scene? That's where I hit a big rock and bottomed out on it. the crankcase got smashed and I was thrown off of the bike and hit a wild grizzly bear that then proceeded to gore me. Just kidding. I actually hit a tree on the side of the trail and because I didn't have any protection on like the cool guy in the video I broke my back in two places and will never walk again. So thanks Suzuki Savage pros for giving me such high aspirations and letting me know that riding irresponsibly in a manner that is not suitable for this kind of bike is such a cool thing to do. Hay want to see me ride a wheelie in my wheelchair? I'm sorry but the guy in the video is a jackass. I'd love to know how many takes were shot for each stunt before he managed to get it right without wiping out. Notice the obvious cut and paste job of the editing. If it were a continuous recording from a GoPro or something that would be a different story, but for all we know he wrecked the bike on each stunt and had to make repairs and possibly heal injuries before recording the next one. And for all of you people who think he's so cool and such a pro let me say this. From my perspective, coming from my background in hare scrambles, no he does not look cool. he looks like a squid. I'm sorry you are all so easily impressed by wonton acts of stupidity but this guy is stupid. Several of you have reinforced what I am saying by pointing out he is doing these stunts on a bike with forward controls. As though that was an excuse. No it is further evidence that he's an idiot and proves my original point that nobody in their right mind should be doing this crap with this bike. Y'all want to laugh at me and be doubtful about my riding knowledge and skills? go ahead. I couldn't care less. What bothers me much more is that from now until this forum goes offline forever people will find this thread and video and might be tempted to act with such stupidity because y'all said it was cool. Shame on you! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by philthymike on 02/17/17 at 18:07:12 And for those that want to laugh at me I came very close to being a sponsored hare scrambles pro. I had a local bike shop interested in footing the bill for me but then my mother decided to move us from Long Island to Philly. I'd have gone the pro circuit if it wasn't for that. I'm a legendary rider back there that people still talk about to this day. But go ahead and laugh. whatever... |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Kris01 on 02/17/17 at 18:08:18 Geez Mike...chill! We're not advocating being a jackass. The guy has some skills. You have to admit that. Riding like that on the street is definitely stupid. I don't think any of us would try those stunts. We're a little more mature than that...maybe! :D |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by philthymike on 02/17/17 at 18:35:42 yeah i need to chill, you're right about that. I've had it up to my ears with trolley crashes and NTSB investigations and crashed systems at work. I'm taking the next week off of work to do nothing but ride my bike and make music. I've been worked to my last nerve for the past quarter and I'm just done. Put a fork in me. There's a backroad near me that I love riding. It has a wicked steep railroad crossing. I really try not to jump it. I grab brakes and downshift and it doesn't matter poor little Thumpy ends up airborne. And I regret it each time up on touchdown. This bike was not meant to fly. If i were foolish enough to hit that darn crossing with some actual speed I could end up in all kinds of trouble. I shudder to think of the hospital bills. I'm going to stay away from that road. This video just makes me think of that. I just feel sometimes we need to be more responsible of the example we set. Especially online where our random thoughts seem to last for decades and longer. I don't want my own offspring reading something from me 10 years from now that tells them it's ok to be a jackass in some way that will get them hurt. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by philthymike on 02/17/17 at 18:42:22 Also I'd like to add that one of my old riding buddies is dead. And another actually did break his back. Sometimes it gets to me.... |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by ohiomoto on 02/18/17 at 05:31:06 Mike, I owned and operated a motocross track. AMA sanctioned and we even ran regional qualifiers for the AMA Amature National Championships. Most days were no worse than a Friday night football game in terms of injuries sustained. Other's brought the lifeflight. (Twice, but neither situation was life threatening. Go figure.) I had a friend die when he forgot to turn his petcock on before a practice moto. Another guy died when his rear brake failed during a road race. There was a local pro who got paralyzed his first season running Pro Nationals. My other friend landed on his best friend's 5 year old son who was "playing in the dirt" on the landing of an 80' double jump at a private track and killed him. (None of these things happened at my track and thankfully, I was not present at any of them.) I know all about the bad things that can happen on a motorcycle. I understand that our sport is dangerous whether it be in the woods, on the track or on the road. When it comes to motocross, I always say "it's not if you get hurt, it's when and how bad." Sure, the Savage isn't a dirt bike, a scrambler or whatever you deem appropriate. But if you think back to days before us, all motorcycle were crud machines and guess what, they raced them, they rode them off road and they got hurt just like we do today. Honestly, other than riding wheelies down a public road, I don't see what the big deal is other than he's doing it on a crud machine like the Savage. He rides down a dirt road throwing a roost? He goes up a hill? He crosses some logs and pops over a fallen tree? His wheels were never more than a few inches off the ground (not counting the front wheel during wheelies. His front tires must last forever!) So this "idiot" is out there having fun. Could he get hurt? Hell yes he can. Should we all ride like that? If you can find legal places to do it, you don't mind the risks and don't mind abusing your bike, go for it. YouTube is filled with real idiots doing real stupid stuff. Like a guy base jumping with his parachute attached to his back with body piercings! Now that's real crazy. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Kris01 on 02/19/17 at 19:32:45 Wow! After those last few posts I'm really bummed out! Sorry for all of your losses! Those are some sad stories. We accept the risks every time we throw a leg over the saddle. Ride safe and try not to be a jackass or a statistic! :) |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Dave on 02/20/17 at 04:43:44 I raced hare scrambles/motocross in the days when we had 4" of suspension travel in the back, and close to 6" in the front. Our speed was limited by the suspension.....no double or triple jumps in my day. There was the usual broken arm, collar bone, leg....but no fatalities at any of the local tracks where I was racing. Falls were generally something that just gave you some scrapes and bruises......trees were a bit of a problem when riding hare scrambles, as they don't move if you hit one. If you choose to ride like the guy in the video....you will fall down rather frequently. You can't push the limits all the time and never get bitten. Thankfully the power and suspension limitations on the Savage will most likely keep him from hurting himself too badly.....he can't attempt any double or triple jumps! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/17 at 08:52:54 he can't attempt any double or triple jumps! Ohhh, yes he can.. Remember, any ship can be a mine sweeper, Once. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Kris01 on 02/20/17 at 17:49:38 JOG, your sense of humor cracks me up every time! ;D |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/21/17 at 07:03:20 Thank You, you're free to use anything, I stole that last one from someone. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by gizzo on 02/22/17 at 13:59:16 Jeez, the guy was only having a bit of fun. There is such a thing as responsibility for one's own actions. If a noob sees that vid and decides to do the same and gets hurt, that's their loss, not his. They probably ought not to be on a bike anyway and would come to grief without anyone's coaching. The world's full of people doing inappropriate things. Mostly we know our limits and don't try to copy them.... |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by bonijaa on 02/24/17 at 11:03:08 what's up guys ? im new to this and it's finally my first forum ever even though i've spent years reading forums i've finally decided to join one long story short im a car guy and then one morning i decided to get into bikes. so my ex father in law and i looked for a bike. i was being impatient and wanted to just buy anything i could get my hands on but a month or two after looking there was this 96 savage sitting in the warehouse we worked at. it was sitting since 1999..(barnyard find?). we emptied the tank, swapped a different carb i forgot which one but it wasn't vacuum powered (not even sure if the stock one is but i think he said something like that) gave it a tune up (fresh oil, spark plug, new battery). thing started right up..only had 1,100 miles on it..had no title but i got one thru moto recycle (a website where these guys get you a title for a motorcycle over 15 years old thru vermont. it's a loophole) anyway i "bobbered" it out. not really sure because it's not a hardtail. i've had it for almost a year now. tons of fun but starting to get too slow for me plus i want to have fun as in do wheelies and maybe donuts. (as i can see from this thread this bike isn't for that stuff) i'm not really into speed so this bike is good for me in some aspects. anyway that's a little bit about my situation can't wait to see what else i read about everyone and what i can learn. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by batman on 02/24/17 at 11:49:25 "but it's starting to get to slow for me" -"but I'm not really into speed" HUH? |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by bonijaa on 02/24/17 at 12:07:01 5A594C5559560C00380 wrote:
first response and i get trolled LOL i meant it's not torquey enough and from what i've read on this forum it's not meant for more than just cruising |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by SALB on 02/24/17 at 12:33:58 585B4E575B540E023A0 wrote:
That's me trying to maintain the posted 65mph posted speed on a lot of the 10% grade mountain passes around here. :( |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by gizzo on 02/24/17 at 14:52:22 Welcome aboard, bonijaa. Just do what you want on your savage. If wheelie and donuts floats your boat, have at it. Somewhere safe, of course. If you want wheelies, you might consider mid mount controls and mx bars for a start. Buy a cheap dirt bike to practice on first. IMO, you have indeed bobbed it. If you graft on a hardtail, it makes it a chopper. Even if you don't do the front end. The other guys here will no doubt disagree. But that's fine. all the best and Ride on. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by bonijaa on 02/24/17 at 18:08:20 78626664655B6A797F79626F6C6E0B0 wrote:
thanks man i agree with your post. will take your advice about the cheap dirtbike that way if i screw up at least it's not a big loss i thought a bobber meant hardtail i was misinformed you know how the internet works you read something and sometimes believe it :-/ |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by jcstokes on 02/24/17 at 22:37:21 At the risk of causing offence, and I don't mean any, but if people want "Hardtails" why not buy a pre WW2 bike? |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by ohiomoto on 02/25/17 at 04:57:02 I think this board has a harder time keeping a topic going down the road the guy in the video does riding his savage off road. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by bonijaa on 02/26/17 at 11:33:28 5158484F54505E483B0 wrote:
not offensive at all imho because they're old and probably need a lot of restoration or people want an arm and a leg for one that's restored |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Dave on 02/26/17 at 13:42:53 42454442404259422D0 wrote:
Absolutely! ;) |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Oldfeller on 02/26/17 at 14:05:45 Read those guidelines up at the top for each section -- the rules change for each section and we don't require any of the infamous "off topic" stuff in the Cafe. We also don't require "motorcycle only" either in the Cafe (surprise, huh). Many times new folks are reacting to other places and other rules -- I remember one guy thinking he was getting moderated when one of the moderators just gave a reply on his post. I think sometimes the new folks come here smarting from being whacked upon by other lists, and they find that 1) nobody beats on them here and 2) freedom to do a lot of stuff is available, just by putting it in the appropriate section. Now if you CHOOSE to go downstairs to the Tall Table with all the drunken bohemians and get a beer spilled on you, well, that kinda comes with the turf down there in the basement bar area. Me, I stay up in the Cafe and drink coffee .... ;) |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by DieselBob on 02/28/17 at 12:31:50 Curiously, the original question was directed at you Oldfeller, regarding the tire mileage challenge (albeit tongue-in-cheek). And the discussion that ensued has been anything but. But, that's the joy of cafe life (with apologies for the back-to-back buts). |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Oldfeller on 02/28/17 at 13:04:42 71484455444F514E4D210 wrote:
Since the contest requires a mileage reading to do the calculations and our speedo mileage comes from a transmission connection that means the rear tire is the one the speedo measures and it does it by simply counting rotations, so any old powersliding revolution, slipping on loose gravel revolution or sliding revolutions across a slippery tree trunk would be counted equally as "mileage". These would all actually be "bonus mileage", as the rear wheel is making extra turns for the distance that is actually covered. And, all his wheelie stuff would come across as good mileage too, since the rear wheel stays engaged to the pavement and revolves along, pacing off the same distance as normal riding would do. My rear tire is still in play in the contest, but all the rest of the people that entered have replaced their rear tires since then, sold their bikes or dropped off the list, so by default my 0.4 cent per mile real cost of ownership was the grand winner of the people actually entering real bikes with real non-imaginary (non- remembered) real bike mileage. And I shouldn't have won it since I still go to the Dragon multiple times each year and rip up on my rear tire something fierce a doing that Dragon stuff. Apparently having a lot more tread width to rip up on means the overall depth isn't changing quite as badly in the middle as one would think (as on a bike tire for example). I still haven't gotten the free beer which was the substance of the contest, either. ;) Click on the screenshot .jpeg attachment just below this line to get a full sized view of the contest sheet. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by TheHelenCruiser on 06/12/17 at 17:56:59 I have a bit of insight when it comes to "the Helen cruiser" video. Helen, ga is indeed the Helen. Helen being a harley biker destination, the name kinda came from that and making fun of Harleys. The savage in the video is stock motor, stock suspension, stock carb, and even stock jetting. The exhaust is a one off 9 inch can with a louvered baffle and fiberglass wrapping on the stock header. Filming took about 5 hours total over 3 days. The editor and filmer is the talented one The savage never got crashed, or dropped. The rider is a club road race and hare scramble champion but definitely not pro. Most wheelies were clutched up in 2nd standing on the pass. Pegs then moving the right foot to cover the rear brake. The savage has since been sold to the next happy owner Oh, and all filming took place 3 weeks after the rider broke his collar bone mountain biking |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by DieselBob on 06/13/17 at 04:00:50 Thanks for the insights on the Helen Cruiser. At your nudge I watched the vid again from the perspective of what was required of the one filming. Gave me an appreciation for the vidiographer's art form and hard work. And then to learn it's a dead stock Savage. It's all a tribute to the bike, the rider and the videographer. I might think the new owner could take some pride in directing his buddies to this vid to say, "hey, check out my new bike!" Great to have the backstory to this vid. Much appreciated. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/13/17 at 04:13:16 OF, I've dedicated over a six pack to you. They were good and cold. If you want to Actually DRINK a beer, free of charge, show up. |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by ohiomoto on 08/24/17 at 08:20:30 Still fun to watch! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by Ruttly on 08/24/17 at 20:47:24 Yeah it is ! |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by jcstokes on 08/24/17 at 22:53:24 OF, I drink beer but stay in the cafe, because I am thousands of miles away from US politics, religion and stuff. Yes the Savage/S40 is Suzukis entry level cruiser, despite how hard it's ridden, bobbed, tracked, cafed, stock or whatever, isn't it so beautifully versatile? |
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Title: Re: I thought the Savage was a cruiser............ Post by IslandRoad on 08/26/17 at 01:03:10 5F58595F5D5F445F300 wrote:
Yeah it really gets the heart going. And I love the stuff on the dirt roads! However, when I first read the discussion on here where people were complaining that the video was a bad example for new riders, I thought they were being a bit over-sensitive. At that point I'd only been riding for a few months. I've now been riding for a few more. Along the way I've tried to educate myself beyond the rider training I got for my bike licence. This has included reading (including posts and articles recommended on this forum), lots of Google searches for riding techniques, talking with experienced riders, riding with experienced riders, and watching crash videos on the internet (seriously, for educational purposes). When I watched this video again just today, I cringed when I saw the guy doing a high speed wheelie on a public road, with a car coming in the other direction! That is just dangerous and irresponsible. Someone (not just the rider) could literally get killed or maimed!! I don't believe in censorship, and I do believe in personal freedom, and I don't think this particular video is going to be responsible for some kid getting it into his head that he should go and do these things. Freedom of expression allows exposure to all kinds of expression - and this video is just one of them. But, I have to add my voice to the others here who have expressed their opinion that the stuff filmed on the public roads is soooo uncool. There are many ways to get a thrill from riding a bike - and you can do it without putting anyone else at risk. If you wanna do stunts then arrange to go to some private property or some organised venue to do it. Doing that stuff on public roads is just lazy, selfish, and irresponsible. |
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