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Message started by Buster on 01/30/17 at 09:19:29

Title: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Buster on 01/30/17 at 09:19:29

Managed to accumulate my first 600 miles during this 28-32 degree mornings that we've been having and am ready to take it in for the first service. My question is would it be ignorant to consider buying the extended warranty? I plan on riding bike 12k-15k/year and hope to keep bike for several years. Not sure if it would really be cost effective in the long run, but would give me peace of mind to know that bike would have a much longer extended warranty period when the miles started to add up. Especially after I start to add up how many of those miles included lengthy 65-70mph daily commutes. Would appreciate your opinions.

Title: Re: uzuki Extended Protection
Post by ohiomoto on 01/30/17 at 09:35:09

You didn't include what the costs and coverage are so it's hard to evaluate. Most warranties don't do much for you when you consider the upfront cost and the deductible.

I personally never buy them. And if I did, I would probably buy it from Suzuki, not uzuki! :)

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Buster on 01/30/17 at 10:48:41

Several plans to choose from, but thinking about the 3 year 550.00ish one. And, just like the one I bought for my Honda CTX, all covered repairs are zero cost deductibles.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Serowbot on 01/30/17 at 11:40:21

They can put your oil filter in backwards for ya'...
That's what ya' call "reverse engineering"... ;D

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/17 at 15:05:52

Are you willing and able to learn to maintain your bike?
Does it cover basic maintenance, like valve adjustments?
Will they let you watch?
Will it sit until the paying customers are done?
You don't know how unfunny it is to have your bike sitting in a shop for three weeks because of some little problem most of us would fix in a day while you're watching the best days od Spring pass you by..

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by SALB on 01/30/17 at 15:09:38

Do you get a loaner bike if it gets stuck in the shop more than a day? ::)

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Papa Bear on 01/30/17 at 15:13:30

$4114 US with a 5yr warranty here in CA
https://www.suzuki.ca/en/2015-boulevard-s40

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by norm92de on 01/30/17 at 16:25:03

I'd stay away from the extended warranty myself, they are far too expensive. As for the first service. Don't let them remove the cylinder head cap, it is not necessary and expensive. Also, it may cause more trouble than it is worth.

I'm sure some of the other guys will chime in on this one. :)

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Buster on 01/30/17 at 16:39:06

6968756A3E356362070 wrote:

And want would be the reason to remove the cylinder cap at 600 miles? Tighten the head bolts? Hopefully they'll check the valves and adjust if needed. What seemed like a good idea for my CTX w/DCT and ABS might not seem so necessary for my S40.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/17 at 16:39:34

It's not necessary to mess with the head bolts. It's in the maintenance schedule. They will Want to Sell you that Service.
Odds are they wouldn't touch them, but you'll pay for it if you don't Get it in Writing that they will not do that.
I took mine to an independent shop and watched him do the valves. It's a PITA and I get a little nervous even after doing it six times,, but it's always worked out.
The cost of tools and a manual is just part of owning it. The money you'll save, the time you'll ride instead of wish, and what you will learn being your own mechanic will make you happy.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Ruttly on 01/30/17 at 19:56:02

Here we go again another member with a 3 year plan ! ;D ;D ;D

Save your money , buy a manual and some metric craftsman tools and if you got ?s , ask them here at SS

Make sure to install oil filter correctly when you change your oil , it's easy !

Welcome to the forum !

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by ohiomoto on 01/31/17 at 04:36:36

5E706968735E73787572791C0 wrote:

Several plans to choose from, but thinking about the 3 year 550.00ish one. And, just like the one I bought for my Honda CTX, all covered repairs are zero cost deductibles.

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As much as I hate warranties, I'm going to say it might be worth weighing this out. IF you are really going to put 12k - 15k miles a year on the bike. Look at what the policy covers and look at what maintenance will need to be done. You'll probably need a timing chain within 36k -45k miles, maybe a valve adjustment and possibly a battery. These things are considered general maintenance. If the policy covers such items it might be worth it. If not, it will only be worth it if you blow the bike up because there isn't much else that it will need if you take care of it. It's a pretty simple/reliable bike.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by stewmills on 01/31/17 at 08:05:19

Welcome!

That's a hard decision and really depends on your mechanical capabilities, or the ability to follow instructions from the good folks here. Got my bike (my first bike ever) with 400 miles on it. Rode it for a while and let the dealership do the initial service and check because I was so new to the bike and wanted it checked over from the previous owner who let it sit for 4 years. Since buying it, it has been close to 5 years and about 8000 miles (I don't ride as much as I want to) I have done everything on my bike with the help of the forum here and I feel totally comfortable with the bike top to bottom.

The dealership will make the bike "right" and not do the modifications that you really need to get the bike in optimum riding and running order...they are going to go by the book. You will probably need to get into the carb and do some of those adjustments, etc. at some point as well but you need to know what your warranty covers and when it expires because if you get into the bike too far and you have issues within the warranty period you can void the warranty. Not that these bikes are know for issues, but if something catastrophic happened within your warranty period the dealership would love to find a reason it is your fault!

Maybe with your higher mileage you may need more work than I do, but you will find that this bike is very easy to work on, though doesn't require much, and you need to know your way around the bike anyway.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by verslagen1 on 01/31/17 at 08:47:15

220C15140F220F04090E05600 wrote:

$550 for a 3yr warranty is probably not a bad deal given the mileage, especially if it includes all parts and labor.
At least $300 for the 600 mile service.
Then at year 2 or so cam chain service.

Here's your typical maintenance issues:
You might consider metzlers 888's at the next change, then service will be every 2 years, rather than every year.
Based on your mileage, Oil change every 2 months, Valve adjust every 6 months.
sparky and air filter once a year
raptor petcock by the 7th year (probably much earlier)
If your going to ride in the wet, silicone grease all the connectors.
The black box above the carb isn't sealed very well, I'd tape up the connector for insurance.
Brake pads every 5k, fluid maybe every 2 yrs or when becomes tinted.
check your battery water once a year, and get agm maintenance free next bat.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Ruttly on 01/31/17 at 10:15:04

Versy , I'm just going to bring my bikes to you from now on ! What's You labor rate ? Yup put all on a trailer and bring them down ! ;D

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by verslagen1 on 01/31/17 at 10:23:13

634445455D48310 wrote:

Versy , I'm just going to bring my bikes to you from now on ! What's You labor rate ? Yup put all on a trailer and bring them down ! ;D

No labor, instruction only.

I did say at least and was based on the best quote I've ever heard over 10 yrs here.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/31/17 at 10:30:37

Tires and batteries are known wear/ use items. Warranty won't touch that. And the cam chain falls into the same category.
If you want to ride, you will need to learn to maintain it, else it will be sitting in the shop, waiting for the least qualified tech to work on it. We've seen at least two engines destroyed by Professional Mechanics putting the oil filter in bakkerds.
While You're piddling on Your bike You'll be looking at little things that need a touch. A mechanic in a shop just wants to be finished. I'd expect to see your bike sitting while the money making jobs get done.
I've seen only a couple of people come here and fail to keep it runnin. I literally can only think of two.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by batman on 01/31/17 at 11:10:07

!00% on all covered repairs! SO! what's covered? I'd want to see this in writing ! I'd also want to see what isn't covered! What are you really getting for your money!$4114 for a 5yr warranty in CA, for $1600 more you could buy a new bike just for parts,now that's a warranty!

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/31/17 at 16:26:27

Yep, 100% on all covered parts..
Wow..
What They say is covered just might not be what you think should be covered.
Can you change exhaust and jetting and still have a warranty?

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Buster on 02/01/17 at 03:08:41

Decided against it. Cost of having the dealer doing all scheduled maintenance just to keep warranty in effect would be very costly. And I'd be pretty upset if the dealer tried to convince me that the timing chain was a normal-wear maintenance item and not covered under warranty. Not sure this dealer would try that on me, but it could be a costly gamble. Other than adding a Suzuki pillow gel seat and windshield, my bike will remain 100% stock - no plans to ever alter exhaust, air filter or any carburetor mods. Thanks for the advice.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Dave on 02/01/17 at 04:24:08

406E77766D406D666B6C67020 wrote:

Other than adding a Suzuki pillow gel seat and windshield, my bike will remain 100% stock - no plans to ever alter exhaust, air filter or any carburetor mods.

You should consider the Raptor petcock.....at a minimum you should put a golf tee and vacuum port cap in your tool kit, and know where to put them and how to set your stock petcock on PRI to get home safely....in case (when) your stock petcock decides to fail.

You may also want to re-think the not going to mess with the carb jetting....if your bike hesitates or runs uneven at low throttle settings (like when you leave a STOP sign in a school zone with the Police watching you). The white spacer mod will eliminate the lean condition and allow the engine to run smoother. It is a very worthwhile change if your bike has the problem...most of the bikes I have ridden have this lean surge at the 500'-800' elevation where I live.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by Buster on 02/01/17 at 05:14:34

Right now the only thing I notice, probably from riding when it's 31 degrees, is that I need to use the choke for about 5 minutes to keep it running smooth. Once warmed up everything seems just fine - Not sure how it will do at low speeds this summer in Oklahoma, but I'd hate to do any mods that would "fix" the backfires. I will consider installing the Raptor petcock sometime.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by batman on 02/01/17 at 08:05:02

You might change your mind about the carb when you see your exhaust header turning a hideous blue color,from running to lean,and your motor running very hot in summer . All the mods to the carb are easily changed back to stock! but I doubt you would after you find that the bike runs so much smoother and stronger with them,and that most of the backfire is gone.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/01/17 at 10:13:03

Once you've got a few thousand miles on it and have done the valves, maybe pulled the rear wheel and had a tire mounted, you'll get comfortable with tinkering.. and the carb won't be so mysterious and spooky to touch. Remember that a project that YOU set the schedule on gives you preparation time. For days before actually grabbing tools you can drizzle penetrating oil on the carb bowl screws. Antisieze is your friend when you put stuff together.
Stainless steel allen heads are the usual replacements, though I kept the stock bolts and just hit them with antisieze, but the Allen head bolts allow for pulling the bowl with the carb still on the bike. And you can swap jets with it installed.
Check the header bolts at the head if it's backfiring a lot. They are a regular maintenance item. Don't even Try to tighten them so they never work loose. They aren't stout and they are screwed into aluminum. Better to need to snug them up every few months than be trying to get new threads in the head,
Use a 1/4" drive ratchet and don't use both hands, be gentle. FEEL the threads clamping down. Another good place for antisieze.

Title: Re: Suzuki Extended Protection
Post by norm92de on 02/01/17 at 11:27:05

I don't know where you are in Oklahoma but you are probably at least 1200' above sea level.

I would suggest that you at least change the petcock, remove the brass plug to adjust the idle mixture and raise the needle a small amount by reducing the thickness of the plastic washer on top of it.

If you are near Oklahoma City. And feel that you must use a dealer I have a friend in OKC who used to be a Suzuki dealer. He will treat you right but professional labor rates are still going to be expensive. :'(