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Message started by raydawg on 01/27/17 at 15:59:36

Title: Got pulled over....
Post by raydawg on 01/27/17 at 15:59:36

Yesterday morning, going to work, 4am.
Last RHT before I scoot down a grade and onto the ferry.

He asked me if I knew why he stopped me?

I said, "Not really, maybe because you is jealous on my bike?" :-[

He said, "No, because I didn't stop."

I said really, I dumped it into first.

He ask, Did you put your foot down.

I said, I can't answer that yes, for sure.

He ran me through the puter, came back and said this was a warning, but to please be more careful, that he was sick and tired of picking us up off the ground.....

He was really sincere.

I believed him.

Got me to thinking.

I too get in a mode when riding.
Even tho its the same commute every day.

I decided to get back into enjoying it, as opposed to HAVING to do it.

I slowed down, not that I am a speed demon.

By doing such, I know I have reduced my risk, and I do enjoy the moment more....

Just thought I would share.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/17 at 16:15:12

I stop and don't put a foot down. I don't stop for long!

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Papa Bear on 01/27/17 at 18:28:29

That is a burr in my saddle too.
Most STOP signs could/should be replaced with YIELD signs.

If I come up to a corner and look both ways - and there is nothing coming - why should I have to STOP ??

STOP LIGHTS are one thing... STOP signs at intersections are another.
If there is nobody coming proceed with caution without coming to a full stop. They should be YIELD signs.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by verslagen1 on 01/27/17 at 19:12:28

Same for me, slow to a pause, look both ways and go. You gotta sell that look.

Rule book says wheel stop for 5 seconds, at least that's what I remember.

MSF said brief stop ok.

Probably the same for you, you just got somebody who didn't get any last night.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by old_rider on 01/27/17 at 21:03:14

Same here, not always a foot down.
I was pulled over for the same reason once.
I asked him if I could circle the parking lot and demonstrate one for him.
I handed him my wallet, took off and turned around, slowed down and came to a stop in front of him.
For two almost three seconds I sat balanced, eased out the clutch and continued on, went around his car and came back and stopped and put down the kickstand and shut it off.
He asked how long I had been riding, I proudly stated "about 40 years", he said ok, your off with a warning, but the book says to put down your foot, I suggest you do it from now on.
I didn't feel so smug after that, because he could have given me a ticket, but I do it more than not now.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/17 at 22:19:44

The BOOK says,,
I can put a foot down without being stopped.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Ruttly on 01/27/17 at 23:11:32

Getting pulled over is so much better than being run over , ride safe !

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by thumperclone on 01/28/17 at 01:32:39

if the wheels are not turning you are stopped ;)

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Steve H on 01/28/17 at 04:21:24

It's getting near the end of the month...quotas to fill. Easy target.

I agree. If the wheels aren't moving either direction, you're stopped, foot down or not. Stop means to cease movement not plant foot.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Dave on 01/28/17 at 04:33:27

I would not be in support of changing STOP signs to YIELD signs.....in this area too many people already feel that stopping is optional and doesn't apply to them. It isn't the "4 AM no traffic" kind of stop that Raydawg did that is a problem - it is the "distracted soccer mom" and "Ricky Rice Racer" and they barely slow down.........and they don't look down the road to see that someone else is approaching the intersection......and you know they are not scanning down the road looking for a motorcycle!

This is definitely one issues that makes it necessary to keep a headlight burning on the motorcycle - so the we are easier to see at a quick glance.

I will admit that I do the "no foot down STOP" a lot....especially when riding double with my wife. It is far easier to slow down and keep the bike balanced at a crawl - than it is to put a leg down and hold up 1,000 pounds of bike and riders.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 01/28/17 at 05:14:50

Ditto on not putting my foot down, and either crawl or full stop, but no foot. However, the probably purpose of the "5 second rule" is to make sure that rider makes one last look before pulling out.

Another side question from above post about headlights on all the time - I agree, but have any of you added any lights that strobe (like rear when brake is pressed) or in front on & strobing all the time? If so, where did you get them and cost?

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by gizzo on 01/28/17 at 05:34:44

10031B06031505620 wrote:

He ran me through the puter, came back and said this was a warning, but to please be more careful, that he was sick and tired of picking us up off the ground.....

.

They must be taught that line in international motorbike cop school because I've had it used on me, too. Didn't make any difference when I informed him that I've never been picked up off the ground by a cop...
Anyway, they shouldn't complain, its their job.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Papa Bear on 01/28/17 at 06:18:15

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

8-)

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by raydawg on 01/28/17 at 07:02:17

I am with Dave on putting the foot down is more risky....
I have slipped numerous times on sketchy road surface.
That is why I love the savage, she is pretty easy to correct.

I guess they'd rather you topple over than to be t boned....

One point he was right about.
This corner has a crosswalk that the walk on ferry riders use.
There is a free parking lot between this corner and the ferry.

You all know how cagers look right pass us, their mind only looking for cars on coming.
He said I could hit a pedestrian.
Yes, I am only really looking for a car, as I think I would readily see a walker, however, that is a failed assumption on my part.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by HAPPYDAN on 01/28/17 at 09:41:07

Call me what you like, but my previous ride was a Yamaha XT225. An amazing work of engineering, in it's own right. It was so maneuverable and well balanced, I frequently came to a full stop, and balanced upright for several seconds without putting a foot down. While I never rode it off-road, I can understand the usefulness of that feature. It had it's quirks, and due to the light weight was dangerous on the freeway. So enter the S40. No more balancing act, but a real kick in the pants. Did I mention that, due to the ground clearance and lack of ferrous material in the XT225, it would not trip stoplight sensors? A deputy sheriff that rode a Kawasaki 650 dirt bike tipped me to that one as I sat through 3 lights wondering if I would ever get a turn. No problems with the S40.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Kris01 on 01/28/17 at 10:50:42

33203825203626410 wrote:

I decided to get back into enjoying it, as opposed to HAVING to do it.

I've found myself riding sometimes because it's a nice sunny day, not because I want to. That's no way to ride! Do it because you love it, not because you have to. It's a far more enjoyable experience when you do it out of love! ;)

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Flint on 01/28/17 at 11:05:26

When my son did his driving test for bikes he forgot to put his foot down as well. The examiner dinged him for it but he still passed. They are allowed three minor mistakes.

Some police don't like to see a fellow standing on the pegs when riding. No law against it and I often do it when in traffic to see what is going on ahead.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Ruttly on 01/28/17 at 12:39:07

You have considerably less control while standing on the pegs , while standing you are focusing too far ahead at freeway speed while lane splitting. Sitting you can better see cage drivers heads and react much faster and in full control. And we have the superman factor,while you are standing focusing too far ahead somethings happens just in front of you that split second longer it takes to sit and react or happens to fast to react while you are standing you hit a car still standing to test how far you can fly like superman,bad ending.Stand up to scope the field or to relieve your legs a minute but sit down that's why they put a seat on it ! Ride Safe !

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Dave on 01/29/17 at 05:05:22

362F23222B2928322433252D233F23460 wrote:

I have never owned a flasher for the headlight - but I did add an LED emergency flasher up front and I connected it to my passing light switch (models after 2004 have that switch on the left handlebar).

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1372162554/0

The brake light flasher modules are cheap and easy to install.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/strobe-controllers/brake-light-strobe-module/195/

However Superbright LED's has an LED with the flasher built in, and it is a bit more expensive, far easier to install, and is far brighter than the stock bulb.....this is definitely a huge improvement in the Savage Tail light.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/tail-brake-turn/1157-led-bulb-w-brake-flasher-dual-function-1-high-power-led-bay15d-retrofit-car/923/2274/

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1414166140/1#1

If you have more questions about the headlight/tail light flasher.....respond in the threads I linked or start your own thread - so we don't "Off Topic" Raydawgs thread too much.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Flint on 01/29/17 at 09:36:04

634445455D48310 wrote:

I have another Suzuki thumper, a DR650. I doubt you will convince a dual sport rider you have less control standing on the pegs. ::) I also take the weight off the seat going over Texas gates and rail road tracks.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Ruttly on 01/29/17 at 10:17:08

Flint , I commute 800 miles a week in my pickup and see way too many bikes down and the aftermath isn't pretty. I ride with confidence and I'm sure they did too. $hit happens fast so ride safe and don't be a statistic.
Been riding over 40 years and it's seems the ground has gotten harder over the years,feel all those crashes,don't heal as well or as fast so it's important that we keep the Rubberside Down !

Stay focused , Stay alive !

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by gizzo on 01/29/17 at 13:40:34

5762767A751B0 wrote:

+1. But standing on the savage's forward controls is a different matter for sure. Its something I have to do for brief moments going over a rough bit. Not something I'd be able to do long periods like on the DR.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 01/29/17 at 13:46:42

I have also ridden over 40 years - closer to 50, and as I get older, I get more wary of everything. I started when 14, back in 1963, and in HS, got bigger and bigger Hondas as I worked at a Honda/Marine dealer.

Went to college, then purchased several used BMW's and gave it up for 20 years. Then 4 years ago decided to ride again. However, I literally get "scared" everytime before I go out for a ride. Not afraid of me, but of everyone else!

Needless to say, I ride very conservatively and not aggressive at all.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Rodger on 01/29/17 at 19:12:16

If I stopped at a stop sign for a full 5 seconds, these Colorado City Folk would run me over!

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by raydawg on 01/29/17 at 19:32:19

5E5046444C4A41290 wrote:

If I stopped at a stop sign for a full 5 seconds, these Colorado City Folk would run me over!

Not to mention the Harley riders.....
Not sure why they like to push Jap bikes, but I know as fact they do not like being behind one.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Rodger on 01/30/17 at 05:32:27

@raydawg....

The group I used to ride with was mostly HD riders. Nice folks & good friends, but they rode a little too close in formation for my tastes. One suicidal dog or deer & headlines could read "8 bike pile-up on U.S. Hwy 26 West...."

Sooo, I always rode "trail" at the back of the pack, where I could have some control over my space-cushion.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by springman on 01/31/17 at 08:47:36

Hey Oldrider, this is what I thought of after I read your little story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xm4DeaFLts

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by old_rider on 01/31/17 at 09:21:25

LOL! that is funny :)

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by HAPPYDAN on 01/31/17 at 10:53:16

584B534E4B5D4D2A0 wrote:

Not to mention the Harley riders.....
Not sure why they like to push Jap bikes, but I know as fact they do not like being behind one.

Too True! Once, while waiting at a stoplight on my XT225, one pulled alongside and advised me to "Get a F---in' motorcycle!" I responded kindly, "I didn't know motorcycles could do that." ::)

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by old_rider on 02/01/17 at 06:22:04

While wearing my "Harley Davidson" jacket and riding my Ninja 300, I had two riders pull up behind me and yell "Hey hope you know that ain't no harley"
I pushed up my modular front looked back (grungy looking beard and grandpa face) and low and behold they were on sportsters (big grin), I yelled back, " yeah, my road glide is in the garage, with my four other bikes."
"So why are you riding your girlfriends bike?"
I might add my jacket is old and sun faded, they were wearing those new faux leather vests.... yup, you know the type.
My bud kevin got a great laugh out of it, guess they didn't want to mess with to old grungy looking riders :)

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by philthymike on 02/01/17 at 07:58:19

In my own neighborhood I always stop foot down so I give a nice responsible impression to the folks I live by.
Otherwise, elsewhere I do the foot up stop. Around here almost everybody rolls through stop signs and half of them roll through stop lights too. But there's also quite alot of people who'll wave a bike though regardless of right-o-way which I find pretty generous.

As for the HD riding fashion victims I could care less what they think. The crusty old one lives across the alley from me is a jerk. He walked into my driveway to look at my bike one day, made a noise in his throat and walked away without even acknowledging my presence. He ever does it again I'll tell him he is trespassing. Let him go sit in his garage with his smug attitude debating on whether he wants to risk tarnishing his chrome or breaking down once a month or once every other month. His poor bike sits alot. I imagine he has to save up for towing fees before each excursion just to cover his ass.
Sport Adventure guys wave to me, rice rocket guys wave to me, big touring cruiser dudes wave, dual sport riders wave, people on japanese cruisers wave. the HD riders not so much. Fashion victims are unfriendly I guess.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 02/02/17 at 09:26:27

I want nothing to do with anything that looks like a Harley!!

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Rayven on 02/03/17 at 16:04:19

I was told the law around here is that if you don't put BOTH feet on the ground at a stop sign they can technically give you a ticket...

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by raydawg on 02/03/17 at 16:30:09

393A32243F323324560 wrote:

GREAT story.....

However, its not Harley's fault.

Marketing assures sales, and vibrant future, a good thing for any business.
Fact is, I am willing to bet that is why they now offer the sportster with training wheels ;D

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 02/04/17 at 06:41:04

I am guessing that one of the sales requirements is that no sales to anyone with an IQ over 10.

Title: Re: Got pulled over....
Post by Buster on 02/04/17 at 14:11:12

I was recently riding down Riverside drive (Tulsa) when I came to stop light at same as the motorcycle policeman beside me did. I stopped and put both feet down. He kept both his feet up on the boards and started doing little wiggle balance checks to keep bike upright. Lasted quite awhile, and I was impressed. As for stop signs...I roll to a complete stop and look both ways and if nothing is coming at me and I'm still steady, I never put my feet down.