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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Repeal, Replace /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1484343180 Message started by verslagen1 on 01/13/17 at 13:33:00 |
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Title: Repeal, Replace Post by verslagen1 on 01/13/17 at 13:33:00 Empty promise? What features of ACA must be carried on? Pre-existing condition |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by old.indian on 01/13/17 at 13:55:19 Definitely Pre-existing condition. Hopefully there are some other positive aspects of ACA to be retained too. (But I'm just not aware of any...) |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by Joer0952 on 01/13/17 at 14:19:54 also keeping your parents insurance till 26 was mentioned |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by verslagen1 on 01/13/17 at 14:29:23 Yes that is good too, but might be short sighted as if they go for any vet/dr. degree it's about 10yrs more education. 18+4+10=32 So I think as long as they are a student would be good. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by Joer0952 on 01/13/17 at 14:41:40 504354554A4741434817260 wrote:
First, I think you math is off, if you go for a doctorate it would be 18 + 10 = 28 the 10 years for a doctorate includes the 4 years for your bachelors. With that being said I could find a lot of problems and potential abuses with "if you are a student". I think 26 is more than enough, after undergraduate you could get a job while going to grad school, I did, or you could use some of your, or take out student loans to pay for a health insurance policy. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by raydawg on 01/13/17 at 15:10:26 Lets just start with being HONEST...... Cost, coverage, etc.... Then lets build upon that. Also, I believe much of the focus is on "doctoring".... That is but one part of the total healthcare equation. We need to reign in the FDA, and BIG pharma, as well as factor in lifestyle choices, as risk factors, indicators. I do NOT want to subsidize a fat, lazy, smoking and boozing SOB...... They must be held accountable. Am I a cold sumbeeech, no, I just want a workable and realistic system. And yes, that also means if you are a 80 year old male, and decide you want to be a female, before you croak, I ain't covering the cost for you ;D You can have "tax deductible" organization that can support stuff like this, if they think it has that sort of need and merit.... We need to think VW coverage for all, not Cadillac.... But if you can afford such a ride, I think it should be available, at an additional cost, after you satisfy any/all mandatory participation (into the program) the deplorable have to pay! |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by Joer0952 on 01/13/17 at 15:16:03 50435B46435545220 wrote:
I agree with you totally, and no your not a cold SOB. The problem is that a lot of people in this country don't understand the concept that you are free to do what you want, but your not free to do what you want without consequences. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by T And T Garage on 01/13/17 at 15:27:23 Put in a single payer or public option and allow states to compete. The main reason that some states have seen higher than average rates is that they're basically run by the insurance companies. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by verslagen1 on 01/13/17 at 15:28:16 7C6F776A6F79690E0 wrote:
You'd hope 'bamy thought that's what he was getting with the 'if you like your plan' statement. If he read it, might have done some editing cause that would be the only way every one could keep their plan. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/13/17 at 15:30:44 I do NOT want to subsidize a fat, lazy, smoking and boozing SOB The very nature of insurance is a balanced risk sharing. Insurance companies have people who figure risk and determine the cost of the coverage. Expecting a single man to be happy being forced to buy a One size fits all policy, and having ovarian cancer in his coverage Might make him question the reasoning. But, I guess it's all good as long as She pays for testicular cancer.. Before the government started fixing it, it was fine. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by raydawg on 01/13/17 at 15:41:15 756A6C6B7671407040786A662D1F0 wrote:
Yes Jog, you are right, re: shared cost, however, that is for a profit earning venture. This, like school, should not be allowed to forecast cost on profitability but on maintaining cost to cover agreed upon coverage, nothing more, nothing less, real actual cost, realistic cost, not some bloated gubbermint scam. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by Joer0952 on 01/13/17 at 15:44:34 5E4147405D5A6B5B6B53414D06340 wrote:
I think their is a difference between risk sharing and paying for others bad behavior. There is a difference between someone who gets diabetes because they have there pancreas removed due to pancreatic cancer and someone who gets diabetes because of their big fat fabulous life |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/13/17 at 16:06:21 Well, you start with that and there is no end to it. I wonder how many believe that nobody should ride.... It's an unreasonable risk. Do Whuuut? Naw, Naw, Don't TELL me them fools fixing to go up there and jump Outta that airplane? Nuh Uhh! |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by Joer0952 on 01/13/17 at 16:17:37 4D5254534E4978487840525E15270 wrote:
its not that you can't smoke or be 600lbs or ride its that you should pay more for insurance if you do so. In respect to riding I do pay more because medical is part of my motorcycle insurance which I obviously wouldn't be paying if I didn't ride. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by thumperclone on 01/14/17 at 00:16:27 no pay for babies having babies like the unwed mom of 18 who is pregnant again and the "baby daddy" is set to go to prison or the pregnant mother of five from 6 different absent fathers |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/14/17 at 03:19:01 I'm not able to understand how everyone is just so Well, that's How it Izzz, and we can't dew nuthin abowt it... Geeze Louise! Would you just LOOK at the lifestyle our SERVANTS suffer? |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by Joer0952 on 01/14/17 at 05:06:02 425D5B5C41467747774F5D511A280 wrote:
I am not sure what you're trying to say |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by Trippah on 01/14/17 at 07:05:26 I think any one injured while riding a motorcycle should pay his own bills; it is a voluntary act of serious danger. Same with the military, they volunteered so if they get hurt ..they shuld foot the bill (ifn they have a foot left). Same for police and firemen..too risky for the tax payers to pay for their health insurance. And don't get me started on fishermen...hah. Thank God we have multimilllionaires and Billionaires in ou r government to keep their own taxes low so they can pay for their own back surgeries moving the piles of money around. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/14/17 at 07:16:14 7A5F554200090502300 wrote:
I am not sure what you're trying to say[/quote] The Electeds in D.C. are Our Servants. They are paid well and steal until they leave D.C.rich. They Have Fabulous insurance coverage and access to medical care that WE don't have. And THEY dikk over the system and Demand that We pay more, for less, and thank them for the privilege. If you're the Landowner and you have a cook, chauffeur, gardener, etc, would you allow your cook, who You Pay, to eat steak while you eat scraps? Whatever PLAN those thieves come up with, THEY need to be ON IT. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by raydawg on 01/14/17 at 07:19:18 And don't get me started on fishermen Why...... It seems you like trolling. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by MnSpring on 01/14/17 at 09:25:10 0A2F253270797572400 wrote:
Al Franken, won in Minn, By the skin of his teeth. (BUS LOADS OF PEOPLE, voting more than once). When taking office, he was HUGELY, in Debt. Now he is a, MILLIONAIRE + |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by Joer0952 on 01/14/17 at 11:54:05 283731362B2C1D2D1D25373B70420 wrote:
I am not sure what you're trying to say[/quote] The Electeds in D.C. are Our Servants. They are paid well and steal until they leave D.C.rich. They Have Fabulous insurance coverage and access to medical care that WE don't have. And THEY dikk over the system and Demand that We pay more, for less, and thank them for the privilege. If you're the Landowner and you have a cook, chauffeur, gardener, etc, would you allow your cook, who You Pay, to eat steak while you eat scraps? Whatever PLAN those thieves come up with, THEY need to be ON IT. [/quote] OH ok I see what you are saying now. I think the purpose of voting trump was to "do some thing about it" #drain the swamp ;D |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/14/17 at 15:47:39 Everyone does realise Trump doesn't run the country,right? |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by verslagen1 on 01/16/17 at 14:41:24 I think the mandatory enrollment has to go. Give me a tax deduction cause I do should be enough incentive for most. there was a chart that showed the non participation percentage had dropped from an incredible 14% to 11% Although they were claiming 18% where it peaked for a day or two as they were being dropped from the previous insurance. |
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Title: Re: Repeal, Replace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/16/17 at 15:43:45 https://fee.org/articles/the-chart-that-could-undo-the-us-healthcare-system/ |
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