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Message started by raydawg on 12/21/16 at 14:39:23

Title: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by raydawg on 12/21/16 at 14:39:23

Such udder nonsense......

Law abiding is NOT illegal entry into our sovereignty....

This is just plain ludicrous, this mayor should be held against not honoring to exucute the laws of this land....
Like a baker who can not oblige ALL its customers, suffering the consequences legally, so should this mayor, period!  >:(

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/21/showdown-looms-between-trump-administration-sanctuary-cities.html

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by MnSpring on 12/21/16 at 16:15:09

The broadcast said,
 ‘LA to fight, deporting,  ILLEGAL, immigrants’
Then he said,  ’The good and law abiding immigrants’
  He did Not say,  Legal  Immigrants.
  (Great Spin !)

The, ‘deporting’, still stands, on,   ILLEGAL   immigrants.
And, here is the big thing.
 Trump Says:   “NO   Fed Funding for Cities who are  Sanctuary Cities”
It is clear, they are, totally Violating, the  Constitution of this Country !
 And, THAT, is a  BIG,   ‘Hold his feet to the fire” !
5  MILLON  a  Month,
out of  YOUR,  Pocket, to PAY, for the Illegals, who NEVER  paid a DIME.

And of course, they are coming in,  in  Huge   Numbers now.
Because they have, 30 days, before things change !

The, ‘baker,  did  NOT,   Violate the Constitution,
any more than a deli, who does Not serve Pork!
Any more that a  Bar, not serving a Drunk!
Any more than a gun shop not selling to a person with a full face covering!
Any more than a sign saying, ’no shirt/shoes’, no service!

Bad  business decision,  (probably so)
But in NO, Way, a  volition of the Constitution !

And Yea,  If the  Baker lost,
than SO SHOULD THE  Mayors, of those  Cities !


Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by raydawg on 12/21/16 at 17:19:42

Yeah, I am not going to argue the point that a bar not serving a minor, is the same as a baker not serving a Gay couple.

But my point was we need to enforce a JOB requirement that the mayor took an oath to do, first, before he decided to hold illegals here because he feels its the right thing to do....

He IS NOT invested with such power!

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/21/16 at 22:42:08

If you build fast cars and someone comes in and orders a custom built car that they stated they intend to use as a get away car from a bank robbery, are you obligated to build it?

If you're a Christian and don't want to

Engage in a CONTRACT
to
Custom Build
an ELEMENT of the Celebration
of a UNION that, as a CHRISTIAN you Know is an
Abomination in the eyes of God,
Then
You follow Gods law,
What was done to the baker is a travesty.
You should all work on understanding property rights.


The gay couple would have been welcomed as customers had they walked in holding hands and asked for a cake in the display case. Asking for a wedding cake is an entirely different thing.
That I'm alone in the ability to see that is not shocking.

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by raydawg on 12/22/16 at 03:40:07




6A757374696E5F6F5F67757932000 wrote:
If you build fast cars and someone comes in and orders a custom built car that they stated they intend to use as a get away car from a bank robbery, are you obligated to build it?

If you're a Christian and don't want to

Engage in a CONTRACT
to
Custom Build
an ELEMENT of the Celebration
of a UNION that, as a CHRISTIAN you Know is an
Abomination in the eyes of God,
Then
You follow Gods law,
What was done to the baker is a travesty.
You should all work on understanding property rights.


The gay couple would have been welcomed as customers had they walked in holding hands and asked for a cake in the display case. Asking for a wedding cake is an entirely different thing.
That I'm alone in the ability to see that is not shocking.


Stupid is stupid, which is stupid.....

Knock yourself out with any rationale you want sweet tang

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/16 at 06:55:20

Wow, a self proclaimed Christian, not understanding rights.

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by raydawg on 12/22/16 at 10:11:03


756A6C6B7671407040786A662D1F0 wrote:
Wow, a self proclaimed Christian, not understanding rights.


You cast the first stone.........

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/16 at 11:39:13

So you think it's okay for the State to force you to contract with someone to be a part of something that is against your conscience? Pay close attention to the
Contract with
And
Against your conscience.

Opening a business doesn't make you a slave. Business owners have rights, too. Being forced to participate in a celebration that the Bible, and common sense, say isn't a good thing is a travesty. The shocking thing is that you call yourself a Christian.
I guess when the King decreed that all prayer would be to him and not to God, the Creator, you would have helped toss those rebels in the oven..The State is supreme, after all.

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by raydawg on 12/22/16 at 11:43:13

Find a mirror dude, argue with him  ::)

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/16 at 14:20:04

Wow,, you can't prop your lefty leaning ideology up with your alleged Christianity,, and they disagree with each other.
So, rather than confront your own inner conflict, you're gonna run and pretend you have the moral high ground...

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by raydawg on 12/22/16 at 14:34:07


657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 wrote:
Wow,, you can't prop your lefty leaning ideology up with your alleged Christianity,, and they disagree with each other.
So, rather than confront your own inner conflict, you're gonna run and pretend you have the moral high ground...


Nope, but go ahead assign and assume.
I stated that I wasn't going to argue the point.
One thing I have learned in my 64 years is when I leave my fishing rod fast to the holder, or to cast....
Saves my bait, gear, and arms, from wasted effort.


Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/16 at 14:41:19

In other words, you can Not counter my points. Fine, go beat on that Bible and put mans law above Gods. Ignore freedom of association. Believe that the State has the Right to Tell you Who you Will Contract with, or Else.

The chains of slavery are forged in ignorance.
I thought some time back that things didn't line up. I even said something about it.. but you just completely outed yourself.

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by raydawg on 12/22/16 at 15:24:40


736C6A6D70774676467E6C602B190 wrote:
In other words, you can Not counter my points. Fine, go beat on that Bible and put mans law above Gods. Ignore freedom of association. Believe that the State has the Right to Tell you Who you Will Contract with, or Else.

The chains of slavery are forged in ignorance.
I thought some time back that things didn't line up. I even said something about it.. but you just completely outed yourself.


Go play the lotto wizard.
Why waste your superiority on a lil' motorcycle message board?
Honest Jog, you might try finding a human friend you can talk to in person.....
As Trump told the Black community, what you got to lose?
Your reality is yours, not mine, try and start with understanding that.
Your need, for what looks like affirmation, and companionship, maybe...
Seems to have left you in a very argumentative state of mind.
Enjoy your party, I ain't coming.

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/16 at 15:47:39

You're not invited. That you don't see the conflict between your stated positions is really telling. And the way you're going about Not allowing yourself to have it pointed out is really telling. But, you are a Democrat, so, you're in an irreconcilable position.
You're so convinced that the State has the authority to force people to do things that you've thrown out the Bible.
You should visit with the pastor. If he agrees with you, show him what I said. If he Still agrees with you, you're both wrong.

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by MnSpring on 12/23/16 at 15:30:46


6B78607D786E7E190 wrote:
Yeah, I am not going to argue the point that a bar not serving a minor, is the same as a baker not serving a Gay couple. ..."

That’s a,  Crab/Wally  fishing expedition, to ‘point/counter point’, that discussion.

"...my point was we need to enforce a JOB requirement that the mayor took an oath to do, first, before he decided to hold illegals here because he feels its the right thing to do....  He IS NOT invested with such power! "  

That above IS  the  POINT.   !  How the Heck does  CALF, say.
  “…In Los Angeles, Mayor Eric Garcetti announced the creation of the L.A. Justice Fund, a multi-million dollar fund to provide legal assistance to immigrants facing deportation….”.

So, taking a,  ‘OATH’, for a  Elected  Office.   Does NOT  Matter !
Seems to me, that a   Clerk, (who was Hired), did not issue a certain type of  License,
What happened to Her  ???????
Gee, several people, ‘believe’, they don’t need a  Car  License.
   (And  NEVER, took a  ‘OATH’, to get one)
What would happen to them !!!!!!!!

          Cut OFF their  Funds.  On Jan 20th.


Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by raydawg on 12/23/16 at 18:32:08


70536E4D4F54535A3D0 wrote:
[quote author=6B78607D786E7E190 link=1482359963/0#2 date=1482369582]Yeah, I am not going to argue the point that a bar not serving a minor, is the same as a baker not serving a Gay couple. ..."

That’s a,  Crab/Wally  fishing expedition, to ‘point/counter point’, that discussion.

"...my point was we need to enforce a JOB requirement that the mayor took an oath to do, first, before he decided to hold illegals here because he feels its the right thing to do....  He IS NOT invested with such power! "  

That above IS  the  POINT.   !  How the Heck does  CALF, say.
  “…In Los Angeles, Mayor Eric Garcetti announced the creation of the L.A. Justice Fund, a multi-million dollar fund to provide legal assistance to immigrants facing deportation….”.

So, taking a,  ‘OATH’, for a  Elected  Office.   Does NOT  Matter !
Seems to me, that a   Clerk, (who was Hired), did not issue a certain type of  License,
What happened to Her  ???????
Gee, several people, ‘believe’, they don’t need a  Car  License.
   (And  NEVER, took a  ‘OATH’, to get one)
What would happen to them !!!!!!!!

          Cut OFF their  Funds.  On Jan 20th.

[/quote]

Me no gots walleye here.....  :-[

Yes, cut off the funds.

When you enter into a oath, contract, etc, you are obligated to fulfill all that it encompasses, be it maintaining sanitary conditions, if serving food, etc..... to serving, protecting, ensuring, the citizens that voted you into office.
I was a plumbing contractor for many years, I had to have a licences.
I had to prove myself, and maintain that "obligation" to ensure I knew my trade, business codes, and solvency.
I had within my power, to cause great harm to the citizens, if I failed to ensure the plumbing was proper, and potable....and sanitary.

NOT.....

To screw anybody for a buck, that my profit, and my welfare, were my motivation justified for ANY reason....
even if I had BILLS TO PAY BECAUSE SOMEONE SKIPPED OUT ON PAYING ME....  

IT SUCKED AT TIMES, but.....
I had to honor the obligation I made FIRST, before trying to satisfy any new concerns.....

And that is my point.

How do you fillet a minnow?

Title: Re: Good & law abiding.....WTF?
Post by MnSpring on 12/23/16 at 19:24:25


24372F32372131560 wrote:
" ... How do you fillet a minnow?  


LOL,  Well   No, Crabs in  Minn.
    (Well unless you consider the ones in the Movie Theater, of long ago)
And,  'Wally",  (Walleye), a  Minnow ?  
Depends on which lake   LOLOOOOLO


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