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Message started by hotrod on 12/19/16 at 11:03:11

Title: Gas and oil
Post by hotrod on 12/19/16 at 11:03:11

Anyone using Marvel Mystery Oil in their bikes ?

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 12/19/16 at 11:27:55

There's nothing marvelous or mysterious about it, it's 5w oil. I see no benefit of adding 5w oil to either the fuel or oil. Adding oil to the fuel makes your mixture lean. Adding 5w oil to the oil tank lessens the amount of 40w oil in the tank.

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Flint on 12/19/16 at 16:17:10

I dump a teaspoon full in the tank once a week or so.  I never use it in the crankcase.

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Kris01 on 12/19/16 at 17:42:51


765F53535B4C0F3E0 wrote:
Anyone using Marvel Mystery Oil in their bikes ?


For what?

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Papa Bear on 12/19/16 at 18:14:12

MMO is more than 5W oil .. it has solvents as well

A good old tribologist at BobIsTheOilGuy username Molakule did a University lab test on MMO and posted it here https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3442362/1/Laboratory_Analysis_of_MMO

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Ruttly on 12/19/16 at 20:31:07

It's a great oil for air tools and that's about it !

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by LANCER on 12/19/16 at 20:43:14

What  ? ??  
You mean there is no magic stuff in there ? ?
There goes the bubble !

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/19/16 at 22:59:37

According to Wikipedia...

However, it was implicated in at least one aircraft accident where an engine suffered catastrophic damage during take-off after Mystery Oil had been used as a fuel additive

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by hotrod on 12/20/16 at 03:01:31

I'm sure that using Rotella  and changing the oil on time is the best way to go.  My use for MMO would be maybe to add some to the gas and oil about 100 miles before a oil change, thinking that it might keep the clutch plates clean, and the carb also.

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 12/20/16 at 05:58:53


1D3A3B3B23364F0 wrote:
It's a great oil for air tools and that's about it !


3 in 1 works better, if for no other reason it's easy to add 2 or three drips from the container.

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Ruttly on 12/20/16 at 06:42:59

Yeah but one can of mmo will last a lifetime for air tool oil and 3n1 is pricey

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by verslagen1 on 12/20/16 at 07:19:16


3C2E3A392E282A4F0 wrote:
According to Wikipedia...

However, it was implicated in at least one aircraft accident where an engine suffered catastrophic damage during take-off after Mystery Oil had been used as a fuel additive


That's like saying I had a scarf on when someone threw open a door and broke my nose so I'm never wearing a scarf again.

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/20/16 at 10:05:03

WHY was a fuel additive used? Engine acting up?
Very faulty logic being applied.

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 12/20/16 at 10:33:30


746B6D6A7770417141796B672C1E0 wrote:
WHY was a fuel additive used? Engine acting up?
Very faulty logic being applied.


In older air cooled aircraft engines the lead in the fuel was used to lubricate the valves in the valve guides. When AVGAS 130 was banned and replaced by 100LL, some pilots used MMO as a "top oil" to lubricate the valve train.

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Flint on 12/20/16 at 14:04:19

C-85 and O-200/O-300 Continentals are prone to having lead deposits build up on exhaust valve stems.  MM helps soften deposits and prevents valves sticking.  I used to use it all the time on my Cessna 150.

Title: Re:  Gas and oil
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 12/20/16 at 14:19:42


6F5A4E424D230 wrote:
C-85 and O-200/O-300 Continentals are prone to having lead deposits build up on exhaust valve stems.  MM helps soften deposits and prevents valves sticking.  I used to use it all the time on my Cessna 150.


There's no documentation that MMO actually does anything in Continental, Lycoming and Franklin engines. It's all "well I've made TBO twice on my engine" type stuff. Well Mr. I made TBO may have run his engine for two hours every day and always operated with the perfect mixture, keeping CHT in the sweet-spot. That's why he made TBO - the MMO was just along for the ride.

I've never used any additive, and in 1,800 hours SMOH have never had a sticky valve issue. Luck? Proper operation? Lycoming? Maybe all three.

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