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Message started by LostArtist on 11/28/16 at 15:16:28

Title: Pipeline safety
Post by LostArtist on 11/28/16 at 15:16:28

Just through October...

Here's more from the source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century

2016
On January 2, 3 people were injured, one seriously, one home destroyed, and 50 homes were damaged in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, when a leak gas from a gas main entered a home. Preliminary results indicate that a leak occurred at a weld seam on the gas main. Later, Oklahoma regulators filed a complaint over the failure with Oklahoma Natural Gas. The complaint alleged the utility failed to properly inspect its system following eight previous leak failures in the neighborhood going back to 1983.[552][553]
On January 9, a 30-inch Atmos Energy gas transmission pipeline exploded and burned in Robertson County, Texas. 4 families nearby were evacuated.[554]
On January 11, butane leaking from a pipeline storage facility, in Conway, Kansas, forced a closure of a nearby highway for a time.[555]
On February 14, a 6-inch crude oil pipeline broke near Rozet, Wyoming, spilling about 1,500 gallons of crude oil into a creek bed.[556]
On February 16, an explosion and fire occurred at a gas plant in Frio County, Texas. 2 employees at the plant were injured.[557]
On February 24, a 10-inch propane pipeline exploded and burned, near Sulphur, Louisiana. There were no injuries. About 208,000 gallons of propane were burned. The cause was from manufacturing defects.[558][559]
On March 11, about 30,000 gallons of gasoline spilled from a leaking plug on a pipeline, at a tank farm in Sioux City, Iowa.[560]
On March 22, about 4,000 gallons of gasoline spilled from a 6-inch petroleum products pipeline in Harwood, North Dakota.[561]
On April 2, the TransCanada Corporation Keystone Pipeline was observed by a local resident to be leaking, near Freeman, South Dakota. The cause was a crack in a girth weld, and amount of tar sands dilbit spill was about 16,800 gallons.[562][563]
On April 12, a pipeline at a gas plant in Woodsboro, Texas exploded, killing 2 men, and injured another worker.[564]
On April 17, a 10 petroleum products pipeline failed in Wabash County, Illinois, resulting in a sheen on the Wabash River. About 48,000 gallons of diesel fuel was spilled.[565]
On April 29, a 30-inch Texas Eastern/Spectra Energy pipeline exploded, injuring one man, destroying his home and damaging several others. The incident was reported at 8:17 a.m., near the intersection of Routes 819 and 22 in Salem Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. Later, Spectra Energy Corp. announced plans to dig up and assess 263 miles of that pipeline, from Pennsylvania to New Jersey. Corrosion had been detected at the failed seam 4 years before the rupture.[566][567][568]
On May 20, a Shell Oil Company pipeline leaked near Tracy, California, spilling about 21,000 gallons of crude oil.[569]
On June 23, a Crimson Pipeline crude oil line leaked in Ventura County, California. Initial reports said the spill size was from 25,200 gallons to 29,000 gallons, but, later reports estimate 45,000 gallons of crude were spilled.[570][571]
On July 6, a Plantation Pipeline line was noticed to be leaking in Goochland County, Virginia. The spill did not reach nearby waterways.[572]
On August 12, contractors were working on one of the main lines in Sunoco Pipeline LP's Nederland, Texas terminal when crude oil burst through a plug that was supposed to hold the oil back in the pipeline and ignited. The contractors were knocked off the platform to the ground, suffering injuries from the fall and severe burns. 7 contractors were injured.[573]
On September 4, a pipeline broke in Kern County, California, spilling reclaimed water & oil.
On September 5, a pipeline in Bay Long, Louisiana was hit by dredging operations, resulting in a spill of about 5,300 gallons of crude oil into the water.[574]
On September 9, a Colonial Pipeline mainline leak was noticed by workers on another project, in Shelby County, Alabama. At least 252,000 gallons of gasoline leaked from line.[575][576]
On September 10, a Sunoco pipeline ruptured near Sweetwater, Texas. About 33,000 gallons of crude oil were spilled. The pipeline was just over a year old.[577]
On October 11, two Nicor Gas workers were injured, and two townhouse units destroyed in a massive fire and explosion, caused by a gas leak in Romeoville, Illinois.[578]
On October 17, an 8-inch ammonia pipeline started leaking, near Tekamah, Nebraska. A farmer living nearby went to find the source of the ammonia, and was killed by entering the vapor cloud. About 50 people were evacuated from their homes.[579]
On October 19, a contractor in Portland, Oregon hit a 1 inch gas pipeline during work. Within an hour, there were 2 explosions, injuring 8 people, destroying or damaging several buildings, and started a fire. Contractors claim a utility locate was done before work began.[580]
On October 21, an 8 inch Sunoco pipeline ruptured in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, spilling about 55,000 gallons of gasoline into the Susquehanna River. The river was running high at the time.[581]
On October 24, a pipeline ruptured on the Seaway Pipeline, in Cushing, Oklahoma, spraying the area with crude oil.[582]
On October 31, a Colonial Pipeline mainline exploded and burned in Shelby County, Alabama, after accidentally being hit by a trackhoe. One worker died at the scene, and 5 others were hospitalized. The explosion occurred approximately several miles from the 9 September 2016 breach.[583][584]

Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/16 at 16:55:30

And your point is what?

Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by MnSpring on 11/28/16 at 17:20:25

Very Sad and Tragic.
Accidents always are.
Yet, they Still Happen.

However, take a Minute, and Compare,
Accidental Fatalities. (Of  Pipelines),
 To:
Motorized Vehicles.  Ladders/Stairs. Drowning. Electrocution, Power Equipment, Non  Motorized, (Bicycles/Skateboards). Poison, (Drano under the sink). Suffocation, (Plastic  bag that came with something).  Etc Etc Etc.

Last week, you could have found a  100 +,  road Accidents, on ONE  day.

“ … Family killed in car crash, on the way to Grams House for Thanksgiving Dinner…”


Very  Tragic.   JUST, like Pipe Line  Accidents !
BUT,  the ‘car crash’, has no, ‘Political, Message’.

OH, and for all the,  ‘gun grabbers’.
Firearms, are 14 to 18 on the list of, Accidental, fatalities.
(Depending on which list you look at)

YET,  NO  Cry’s for  Laws to:
Have a  Locked Cabinet, with the Drano (and like) in.
Have a  Locked  Gate, at the top and bottom of a  Stairs.
Have a Plastic Devise, to insert in any UN Used Outlets.
All  lakes, rivers, Fenced off, and Only, a ‘designated’ area to use, ONLY if a ‘Certified’ Lifeguard is on duty.
Everyone that rides a Bicycles/Skateboard, HAS  to wear, ATGATT.
On and On and On  !!!!!

Both, Accidents, Both Very  Tragic.
But one, has, ‘Political’, traction, to sway a POV.
The other does not.


Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by raydawg on 11/28/16 at 17:46:45

How about just plain old booze.......

Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/28/16 at 18:09:12

After several reported problems,in one area, no comprehensive study of the area.
Bad...

How many barrels of oil need to leave one place and Not get to the next before someone c loses a valve?
Pressure sensors to control pumps and valves,
Why not?

Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by MnSpring on 11/28/16 at 18:27:16

Some  States it is a  LAW,
to have a PFD,  (Life Jacket), IN, the  Boat,
which Must be Licensed.
Law:   PFD, ‘available’, for each person in a  Boat.

No,  LAW, that a Person, ‘wind surfing’, or paddle boarding.
Or even in a  Licensed  Boat !
HAS to  WEAR  ONE.

Tragic Occurrence.
http://www.startribune.com/search-continues-for-missing-paddleboarder-on-lake-waconia/403472676/
A  Lake just 3 miles away, a person,  ‘Paddle boarding’, has been looked for, the last 2 days.

Guess, MINN,  MUST,   Make a  LAW.
That a,  Paddelboarder,   MUST,  wear a  PFD.

Or, perhaps, a, understanding of, ‘Hypothermia’, is in order ?
Can you say:   “Common Sense”  ?

Tragic Accident ?    YES.
Cleaning up the gene pool ?   YES.

To bad, this, tragic Accident,
could not be used as a, 'POLITICAL',  Stand,
To Sway, a  POV, to favor  the DNC.




Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/28/16 at 18:59:56

And they say outdoor activities are Good Fer Yaz!
Couch Potatoes Unite!

How many dollars are spent on rescuing the brave ones every year?
How many dollars are spent on retrieving or dredging for the dead?

I think that considering all the people killed going to work,going home, engaging in
Recreational, break it Down now, Re Creational, yet occasionally fatal, activities, we should all just stay home and let the government deliver our food. Pay the bills, etc...


In the meantime, let's go hiking!

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Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/16 at 19:04:43

how many thousands of miles of pipeline run under the country by the way?

if Lost is so concerned about getting rid of dangerous objects, I might bid on his motorcycle since he's obviously going to put it up for sale.

Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by MnSpring on 11/28/16 at 19:08:32

Taking a  ‘risk’.   But being,  PREPARED.

Sometimes, after Thanksgiving, they may be 2-3” of ice on a   lake, which is  the  BEST  Fishing Time.
(This year not)

Have gone, ‘on The Ice’, several times.
KNOWING, it is ‘un safe’.
BUT, have BEEN   Prepared. !!!!!!!!!
Only  WOOL,  Clothing.  (Wool is  Warm,  even when wet !)

ALWAYS, 2  People,  Each, with a hank of rope 30 +/- “ long.  (To use to throw to the Other  Person)
Each with a  PDF   ON.
Each with, ‘Ice Picks’.
Each staying 20” Apart.
( Ice, ‘Picks’, are two, wood dowels/limbs of wood, with a  Point on one side, and a string on the other, hung around the neck, so you can use them to ‘pull’ yourself on a sheet of ice, if you fall through, because you will NEVER, do it without them)

Then you walk out, with your ’spud’,  (A  Ice Chisel), And toss it down, is does NOT  go through.  You walk another 5  FEET, do it again.  and keep doing that, until it goes through on the FIRST,  throw.   THEN, you stop, and fish.

It is the  BEST,  ‘Ice Fishing’,  Ever !!!!!!


One time, Me and a Buddy were  Fishing on,  Early Ice, The ONLY two on the Lake.
Looked back at the landing, when a  PU truck pulled in, with a  4 wheeler in the back.
We Looked at each other and, packed up and Left !

As we reached Shore, here was this,  ‘……’,
With his, 4 wheeler, and his 5 year OLD KID, on back,
with  ALL  Sorts of gear.    Ready to just  drive out on the Ice.
(Because he saw two people out their)

He asked, “How was the Fishing”
We said, “I would NOT go out their with That”
Then Left.

Guessing, he did Not drive out, because their were No local  reports, of a  DFI, driving on early ice.

Why, this long explanation?
Because it, Parrots, people, who KNOW, NOT  WHAT  THEY ARE  DOING,
And, DO, it,   “Because someone else is”.

Just like, “What, someone else,  Said”   !!!!!!!


Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by LostArtist on 11/28/16 at 19:57:17

interesting assumptions, typical talking point BS though and of course the completely inapplicable tangents that address NOTHING about anything

http://https://www.propublica.org/images/ngen/gypsy_big_image/pipeline_line_map-630x420.gif

liquid in red, gas in blue


"The United States has the largest network of energy pipelines in the world, with more than 2.4 million miles of pipe. The network of crude oil pipelines in the U.S. is extensive. There are approximately 72,000 miles of crude oil lines in the U.S. that connect regional markets."

and this isn't talking about ME putting MYSELF at risk, by being unprepared, this is about OTHERS, putting OTHERS at risk because of greed,


oh, if those pipelines where M&Ms and only 3 of them were explosive, would you let them put it under YOUR house???  

oh, well, a lot of you already have it under your house, for your gas stove, oven, heat, etc....  

funny, we accept a level of danger to OTHERS and ourselves for OUR COMFORT and convenience, and economic reasons, but refugees, nah, forget those people, let them die in a warzone, despite that we all go to the kitchen or bathroom everyday which is statistically, MUCH more dangerous than extending a little charity to refugees


Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by MnSpring on 11/28/16 at 20:13:56


1A3925221724223F2522560 wrote:
" ...  more dangerous than extending a little charity to refugees"


Nop, it is  NOT   !!!!!!!


Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/28/16 at 20:33:51

I Don't care which is more dangerous.
I can LIVE without the refugees.

You're not real big on logic, are you?

Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by LostArtist on 11/28/16 at 21:15:52


091610170A0D3C0C3C04161A51630 wrote:
I Don't care which is more dangerous.
I can LIVE without the refugees.

You're not real big on logic, are you?



yeah, I know you're a cold hearted, greedy SOB, you voted for Trump, says enough about your logic


Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by LostArtist on 11/28/16 at 21:29:51


12310C2F2D3631385F0 wrote:
[quote author=1A3925221724223F2522560 link=1480374988/0#9 date=1480391837]" ...  more dangerous than extending a little charity to refugees"


Nop, it is  NOT   !!!!!!!

[/quote]


*sigh,  you really are that stupid huh?  

it's math, statistics, but of course you think you're right, just cause I said it, it must be wrong, afterall I'm one of those stupid liberals and we are wrong about everything huh?   do I need to spoon feed it to you or can I trust you to google it yourself?   go ahead and cling to your fear, when you realize that's all you got, is fear and hatred, it'll be too late

Title: Re: Pipeline safety
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/28/16 at 21:50:59


4764787F4A797F62787F0B0 wrote:
[quote author=091610170A0D3C0C3C04161A51630 link=1480374988/0#11 date=1480394031]I Don't care which is more dangerous.
I can LIVE without the refugees.

You're not real big on logic, are you?



yeah, I know you're a cold hearted, greedy SOB, you voted for Trump, says enough about your logic

[/quote]

I'll bet I've picked up more hitchhikers, given more clothes to people on the road, handed out more money, changed more flats and generally been more generous than you.
Stats back that up.

Comparing the risks of refugees, which is an unknown HERE,but evidence in Europe would make them clearly dangerous.

WE DON'T NEED REFUGEES.
We NEED energy.

That's pragmatic. It's how grown ups think.

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