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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 11/19/16 at 03:32:26

Title: Camping
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/19/16 at 03:32:26

I'm, of course, short on space with the bags I have. A pack of sorts behind me is in the planning stages.
My question is more about equipment. I've got a super cot, and a chair and table I'm looking at and a tent in storage I need to test.. but cooking, I'm needing clues on that stuff..
And I don't want teflon or soft aluminum. I heard anodized aluminum doesn't pollute the food.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by Oldfeller on 11/19/16 at 04:53:54

Are you camping off the Savage or out of a car while trailering? Makes a difference, it does.

Old nylon based tents need to be taken out and put up periodically or they seize up fabric to fabric. They can be carefully separated in the hot sunshine being careful not to tear them, then relubricated with silicone spray (tire shine for us low ball people).

If you go low ball, sniff your silicone tire shine before you buy it. Some brands smell better than other brands ..... also carefully review that it REALLY IS silicone tire shine before you buy it.

A spray bottle of tire shine can re-lube a one man tent like at least 2 times, as one man tents are relatively small. Spray it and leave it up for a day or so for the lube to migrate throughout the fabric and for the carrier solvent to evaporate well. Smell gets better over time, as it is the solvent that is smelly.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by thumperclone on 11/19/16 at 09:21:41

we have
a Dutch oven(the flat lid kind are better)
seasoned cast iron skillet
small Teflon(?) coated fry pan
enameled coffee pot
aluminum pot, don't use metal utensils on it
enameled and plastic dishes

Title: Re: Camping
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/19/16 at 10:05:13

Thanks for the heads up on the tent. It's been stashed for years.. I Will be careful.
No car, no trailer, just the bike.
I'm planning a short trip pretty soon, just as a shakedown run.
Then, come Spring, Reelthing is supposed to meet me somewhere and we will camp and fish our way to Galveston.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by SALB on 11/19/16 at 10:56:49

Check out some of the backpacker suppliers. They have all kinds of trick, compact, lightweight stuff.

As for cooking, I'm going camping to relax, not cook. You can cook a lot on a stick with a little imagination, and it's relaxing sitting around the campfire shooting the breeze with your buddies while everyone cooks their own food. I do, however, bring my camping coffee pot.

When it's warm, I don't use a tent. I tie a small tarp from the trees and set up a cot under it. Much more comfortable than lying on the ground.

Hope ya have a good time. ;)

Title: Re: Camping
Post by Ruttly on 11/19/16 at 14:00:20

Cast iron skillet is best but heavy, next best is cast aluminum handful of dirt or sand rub it around and rinse in the creek clean up is done. All cook surface coatings come off and in your food,not sure of vitamin/mineral/chemical content of coatings or nutritional value if any!

Title: Re: Camping
Post by Ruttly on 11/19/16 at 14:36:49

Title: Re: Camping
Post by pg on 11/19/16 at 15:48:05

There is a wealth of information regarding moto-camping on that link.

http://advrider.com/index.php?forums/trip-planning.51/

For your old tent, take a look at nikwax.

http://www.nikwax-usa.com/en-us/productselector/productselector.php

Best regards,

Title: Re: Camping
Post by engineer on 11/19/16 at 17:24:05

You can leave the dishes behind and eat your food right out of the skillet. A pot and some sort of single burner stove is a blessing. Camp fires are great but take time to build and then you need a tool or two for prepping the wood and cooking. A back packing style single burner is fast and you can make that essential coffee in a hurry in the morning. If you do want to build camp fires I found that the lightest and most useful tool to carry is a small saw with coarse teeth, more useful than a hatchet for cutting up branches you find in the woods.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by Ruttly on 11/19/16 at 19:18:57

My departed,oldest,most trusted friend had a Harley Bagger with hard side bags and the trunk above that and he liked to eat. On both sides of the trunk or the rack that supported it was a row of hooks and from the hooks hung pots , cast iron skillet,coffee pot,cups,propane single burner ! All the time not just when on a trip ! It was Big Jims Chuck Wagon guaranteed to turn heads everywhere he went. He was a mountain of a man with a heart bigger than Texas , I miss my friend !!!

Title: Re: Camping
Post by MMRanch on 11/19/16 at 20:58:02

;)

I believe the best catfish I ever ate was flayed then cooked on a flat rock (limestone) layed on two large burning pieces of wood with a heap of coals between the large wood chunks.

I was Scout-Master 10 years while my son was in Scouting.

I have several wood burning back-packing stoves that fold up to almost nothing. They are great and will run a long time on a couple chunks of Match-Light charcoal or twigs of wood.
Google "wood burning back-packing stoves" :)

My favorite one looks like this but I only payed ?? $30.00 ?? or so for it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vargo-T-415-Titanium-Hexagon-Backpacking-Wood-Stove-Slim-Compact-Design-/311726325886?hash=item489456407e:g:A8AAAOSwA3dYDMMM

Title: Re: Camping
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/20/16 at 17:24:04

Just because I don't have anything to say doesn't mean I'm not reading and thinking and very appreciative of the ideas.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by sjaskow - FSO on 11/21/16 at 10:47:15

There are a lot of people on the https://www.reddit.com/r/motocamping that like a Jetboil for making food/coffee. They come in a Zip: https://www.amazon.com/Jetboil-Zip-Personal-Cooking-System/dp/B004XCD3ZU which doesn't have auto-ignite and a regular one that does. Most camping stores will have the fuel canisters.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by Oldfeller on 11/21/16 at 10:49:21

My thoughts about road trips center around the tent and the air bed and the pillow. I will munch on the roll mostly.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/21/16 at 14:59:02

Im already heavily burdened with metals, cadmium, lead, aluminum, and iron. Chelation is expensive and insurance doesn't touch it. I will not eat out of a can or aluminum.
Cans are lined with a plastic. Stainless steel or cast iron, or a stick or rock..

Title: Re: Camping
Post by gizzo on 11/22/16 at 02:49:58

If I'm bike or surf camping it means I don't have to cater for my wife and kids. In that case, I usually take army rat packs that come with the little hexamine stove and a pannikin plus utensils. Too easy. Not luxurious but I don't mind roughing it when the fam aren't along. Its just fuel for the body.sleeping, I use a lightweight biker swag with thermarest mattress. No tent, no cooler none of that s...

Title: Re: Camping
Post by old_rider on 11/24/16 at 06:02:56

I just bought me a Hennessy Hammock, it is a combination hammock/tent.

I liked camping a lot when I was "younger" but as I've had back problems getting up and down after laying on the cold hard ground is getting to be frustrating and painful, I have had enough pain :)

I put it up in the back yard to test it but it is limited to 7-12 foot base for tying up to trees and I have two trees in my yard and they are 20 feet apart.
It ended up sagging down about 3 feet from hip high to about six inches off the ground. ( I used some tie down straps added to the tree straps they have )

You can set it up on the ground with a little creativity, but I think my two smaller motorcycle straps will work in a pinch and add about 10 feet on each side.

It packs up into a bag about ten inches around and twelve inches long, and depending how good you are at knot tying, it can be set up in about 2-4 minutes easily.

Can't wait to try it out next year on a couple of the outtings we have.... even if we have cabins, I will bring it to try out and show you folks what it is.

JoG, look up a couple of the backpacking sites online and see what folks take, they tend to be "minimalist" and I have found lots of good info on youtube backpack camping too.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by MMRanch on 11/24/16 at 06:48:11

Bill

I've wanted to try one of them out too ! ::)

I'm thinking "Ratchet-Strap" , on one end. Is that what you did and it still sagged 3-feet ?

That whole idea is the opposite end of the " Idea-Spectrum " than the 8'x10'x72" tent that I use now. One side of the tent for me ... the other side for the bike .. ;D

Title: Re: Camping
Post by old_rider on 11/24/16 at 08:07:25

I had a ratchet strap on the one end... I was told they sag slightly anyway and they recommend tying them really tight at least eye level or there abouts, and that is with their string and straps (which do not ratchet). I did end up putting two straps... (watched my video) but sagged the same I believe.. here is the video.. long and misquoted the distance and being new to hammock tent stuff... total newb...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46rx-gzdXaY

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46rx-gzdXaY [/media]

Mine probably sagged so bad because of the distance and having two straps... one would probably sag less...

It was still comfortable and I had a nice afternoon nap after putting it up :)
I got woken up by the kitty rubbing against the bottom LOL...

And you can order bigger "rain flys" that go over top and would probably be enough to cover a bike if you parked it close enough.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by old_rider on 11/24/16 at 08:37:59

I found a short video on how to pack one up.

It came with covers that go over the mount ropes and pull over the tent like a snake shedding its skin , thus "snake skins" named.

They feel like a giant condom LOL and make putting the tent up and taking it down real easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZnsCQO6V8

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZnsCQO6V8 [/media]

Title: Re: Camping
Post by verslagen1 on 11/24/16 at 08:45:20

The bowstring is not holding your weight, it's for keeping the fly and net off of you.
The main ropes and hammock have to be tighter to keep you hiney off the ground.
So loosen the bowstring so you can tighten the straps.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by old_rider on 11/24/16 at 08:56:27

I did not see where you could loosen the bow-strings... they look to be fastened in with the hammock ropes...

I had it so tight I thought the bow string would snap....

I'll unpack it this week-end and see if I can figure a way to do just that.

Title: Re: Camping
Post by Ruttly on 11/24/16 at 18:36:59

MM , I guess the bike will hold the tent down if it gets real windy.
I love my bike but I won't sleep with her.
Just what do you & your bike do in that tent ?