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Message started by Serowbot on 11/11/16 at 07:19:23

Title: Return of the small bike...
Post by Serowbot on 11/11/16 at 07:19:23

2017 BMW G310GS
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/blog/welcoming-the-2017-bmw-g310gs/
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/BMW-G301GS-Profile-300x184.jpg

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by MMRanch on 11/11/16 at 07:39:19

It's more Fun to ride a small bike fast ... Than to ride a fast bike slow .[ch128512]

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by oldNslow on 11/11/16 at 07:59:49

Another one.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/kawasaki/2017-kawasaki-versys-x-300-preview.html

There is even a Suzuki:



http://www.cycleworld.com/2017-suzuki-dl250-v-strom-is-their-entry-level-adv-contender

Might not get them here though  :(

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 11/11/16 at 08:20:18

Yeah, small displacement are making a comeback. It's about time. It's mostly been in the 300cc class and I look forward to more offerings in the 300 to 600 class. But here is where the OEM's will completely F' it up; they will continue to offer these bikes with budget components. There are a few that see the market for high-end small displacement bikes (KTM & BMW), but the Japanese manufactures still equate displacement with features. For once I'd like to buy a bike and not have to start modifying to replace the crap that Suzuki/Honda/Kawaski/Yamaha have bolted to it.

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Dave on 11/11/16 at 09:24:14

A 418 pound Kawasaki 250....a 374 pound BMW 310?

Sounds a bit bulky to be a "small bike" the way I remember them.

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Ruttly on 11/11/16 at 09:27:03

Like to see a naked version of that , without the bodywork , loose 20 to 30 lbs and lowered somewhat !

Yamaha SR400 384 lbs , air cooled , still a little porky

Liquid cooled will always be heavier

This is why we build our own bikes to personalize to our size & vision of what a motorcycle should be and what it should be capable of !

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by jcstokes on 11/12/16 at 00:42:16

1974 Honda 350 four cylinder

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Steve H on 11/12/16 at 04:09:33

The larger bikes are also being priced more and more out of the market.


Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Papa Bear on 11/12/16 at 12:34:23

I thought this Honda 223s is a cool little bike.
Only available in Japan I believe.
I'd love to take one for a spin
 ;D

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/bobistheoilguy/honda-cb223s-2_1.jpg (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/bobistheoilguy/media/honda-cb223s-2_1.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Ruttly on 11/12/16 at 14:59:31

I like that little Honda it's cool
I hate it when they won't import the cool bikes
Good eye Papa Bear

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Ruttly on 11/12/16 at 15:29:01

Good lookin kinda looks like SR400/500

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Papa Bear on 11/12/16 at 15:30:19

And Australia get this cool little Suzuki 250LC twin.
I'd like to take a test run on it as well.
 8-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkUUbuMmdYw


http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/bobistheoilguy/Suzuki250LC.jpg (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/bobistheoilguy/media/Suzuki250LC.jpg.html)




Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by zipidachimp on 11/12/16 at 16:20:48

Our S40 deserves to be presented like that neat Honda! Too cool!  Flat seat would do it!

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Ruttly on 11/12/16 at 18:17:35

What is that a 500lb 250cc v twin bowloflard ?

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Ruttly on 11/12/16 at 19:37:23

Same crappy front brake as the Savage Too !

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Steve H on 11/13/16 at 03:29:46

That little Honda is neat.  Looks like the XR200 engine with the addition of electric starter over the transmission.

I'd like to try out one of those.

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Ruttly on 11/13/16 at 11:57:00

Yeah in Japan ! ;D

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Kris01 on 11/13/16 at 19:52:10


052223233B2E570 wrote:
What is that a 500lb 250cc v twin bowloflard ?


It does look like it needs to go on a diet before Thanksgiving!

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by gerald.hughes on 11/15/16 at 18:04:30

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gerald_hughes/KTM%20349_zpsiwn1bq6j.jpg (http://s414.photobucket.com/user/gerald_hughes/media/KTM%20349_zpsiwn1bq6j.jpg.html)

KTM 349

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by HAPPYDAN on 11/16/16 at 12:27:00


6B4C4D4D5540390 wrote:
I like that little Honda it's cool
I hate it when they won't import the cool bikes
Good eye Papa Bear

That's almost a dead knock-off for the SYM Wolf classic. No wonder you (I) like it! Also please consider the new Ducati 400 Scrambler Sixty2. At $8,000 MSRP, tho, they probably won't fly off the floor.

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Ruttly on 11/16/16 at 12:37:03

Haven't seen the 400 duk yet. Is it a thumper ?

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Rodger on 11/16/16 at 14:27:03

According to the Feb 2016 test by Cycle World, the Duc 400 is a vtwin. But  $8,000??

Too bad the small, entry-level, affordable bikes of yore aren't available to new riders today.

P.S.: Just curious....does anyone know the MSRP of the first-year Savage?

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Steve H on 11/16/16 at 15:15:04

$5,499 MSRP 1986 according to totalmotorcycle.com

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by HAPPYDAN on 11/16/16 at 16:27:51


537475756D78010 wrote:
Haven't seen the 400 duk yet. Is it a thumper ?


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_cpOSoyLdLA/maxresdefault.jpg
Technically an "L" twin, 41 screamin' horses with the famous desmo valves. A friend took one out for a test ride and it got away from her. $1500 for repairs and still no bike.

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Oldfeller on 11/16/16 at 18:01:04


292731333B3D365E0 wrote:
According to the Feb 2016 test by Cycle World, the Duc 400 is a vtwin. But  $8,000??

Too bad the small, entry-level, affordable bikes of yore aren't available to new riders today.

P.S.: Just curious....does anyone know the MSRP of the first-year Savage?



If memory serves, $1999 was what they actually sold for on sale, but that went up fairly quickly.

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Rodger on 11/16/16 at 18:35:31

$1999 in 1986 dollars would not be too far off. According to a couple of online inflation calculators, $100/1986 = $217.60/2015, so rough-figuring, $4349. With all dealer charges & sales tax, my 2015 S40 cost just over $5K.

FWIW, my first new bike, a 1973 CB350 twin was $867...but I was getting paid $2/hour as a gas station pump jockey/light mechanic.

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Kris01 on 11/16/16 at 18:39:03

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/mRQAAOSw-kdX1LJa/s-l225.jpg


I've got a larger version of this ad somewhere.

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Kris01 on 11/16/16 at 18:42:47

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzUxWDU1MA==/z/41YAAOSwq7JUKEis/$_1.JPG


Here's a slightly different version.

Title: Re: Return of the small bike...
Post by Ruttly on 11/16/16 at 20:27:13

I been eye ballin that big azz single since it came out , but didnt get one till 2012

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