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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/16 at 08:24:33

Title: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/16 at 08:24:33

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/724302/Sweden-migrant-open-door-policy-asylum-sex-attacks-violence

mmigration: Do-gooding Swedes turn against migrants amid violence

SWEDEN’S open-door policy has 'WRECKED' Europe’s most liberal nation as the Swedes turn against migrants amid an unprecedented rise in violence and sex attacks.

By REBECCA PERRING
00:00, Mon, Oct 24, 2016 | UPDATED: 13:36, Mon, Oct 24, 2016
     
     
     
     
     
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For years Sweden has regarded itself as a “humanitarian superpower” - making its mark by offering refugee to those fleeing war and persecution.

But people’s patience with their visitors is wearing thin following a year of violence, sickening sex assaults and the death of social worker Alexandra Mezher, 22, who was knifed to death at an asylum centre for unaccompanied children at the hands of a Somalian migrant who claimed he was 15.

At the time, her grieving mother, an immigrant herself from the Middle East said: “Immigration has destroyed Sweden.”

Sweden, a country of 9.8million, took 163,000 asylum seekers in 2015.



Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by Paraquat on 10/26/16 at 09:21:21

Stop being intolerant.


--Steve

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/16 at 18:39:29

Can  the Citizens of the USA   ‘Learn’,  
from what has  happened in other Countries.

Perhaps  the  Citizens of the USA  HAVE,  Learned,
And the People THEY HIRE,  
the People  THEY Pay,
The People THEY  tell what to do,
        are NOT   Listening?    >:(


Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by LostArtist on 10/26/16 at 18:50:09

well, in 2015 the USA took in 69,933  for a country of 370 million

so, what are you trying to teach us again?    

and the ceiling or 2017 is 110,000, for about the same 370 million people

what exactly is your problem or do you just really, really like playing Chicken little?  

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/16 at 19:24:08


1A3925221724223F2522560 wrote:
well, in 2015 the USA took in 69,933  for a country of 370 million.  


in 2015 the USA took in 69,933

OK  LOST.   AGAIN,   REALITY !1!

Lets say, you have a bowl full of, candy,
   Candy you like and eat.
      Bite size candy,  
Candy you take a handful of, and pop it into you mouth.
It Has 69,933 pieces in it.

Then say, 10% of it is,  POISON.
and if you eat,  just one,  you will die.

So all those candy bits, contain, 6,933  Pieces of,  POISON.
They are randomly mixed in.
You have a  10% Chance of getting One of those  Pieces.
 
 Now,   How  many are you going to eat ??????

Is  NOT,   Watching, Seeing, Observing, what  IS,  Happening.
Not enough ??????

Keep in mind,  Not talking about, ‘refugees’ form Sweden, UK, or parts of the former, USSR.
Not talking about,  ‘refugees’, from Greece, China, Japan, Italy.
Not, talking about  ‘refugees’, from, VN, Lajos, Korea. (etc. etc.)

 Talking about,  ‘refugees’, from places, who SOLE  Effort, is to  KILL.

Oh, I get it:   ’Not in, ‘YOUR’,  back yard’
But someone else’s, is  JUST   Fine  !!!!!!!

OH, and if you do not have the means to put some, in, ‘YOUR’, house.
How Many, Federal or State, Representatives,  Have Stepped forward?
How many, State  Governors, or their Staff, have Stepped forward?

Yep,  I get it.
 Just  FINE,
as long as it is  NOT, in,  ‘YOUR’,  backyard.




Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by oldNslow on 10/26/16 at 19:37:30

I got a simpler answer. No  Muslims. None. Ever. Problem solved.
See how easy that was?

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by LostArtist on 10/26/16 at 19:45:52


0836373B2935345A0 wrote:
I got a simpler answer. No  Muslims. None. Ever. Problem solved.
See how easy that was?



that's unconstitutional, based on religion, and quite bigoted on your part too, but not surprising, and if that's you're perspective, might as well kick all the white people out now too, since they kill a lot more than muslims ever have, but that'd be unconstitutional too, based on race. but it'd make us a TON more safer than just stopping muslim refugees

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by LostArtist on 10/26/16 at 19:58:29


74576A494B50575E390 wrote:
[quote author=1A3925221724223F2522560 link=1477322673/0#3 date=1477533009]well, in 2015 the USA took in 69,933  for a country of 370 million.  


in 2015 the USA took in 69,933

OK  LOST.   AGAIN,   REALITY !1!

Lets say, you have a bowl full of, candy,
   Candy you like and eat.
      Bite size candy,  
Candy you take a handful of, and pop it into you mouth.
It Has 69,933 pieces in it.

Then say, 10% of it is,  POISON.
and if you eat,  just one,  you will die.

So all those candy bits, contain, 6,933  Pieces of,  POISON.
They are randomly mixed in.
You have a  10% Chance of getting One of those  Pieces.
 
 Now,   How  many are you going to eat ??????

Is  NOT,   Watching, Seeing, Observing, what  IS,  Happening.
Not enough ??????

Keep in mind,  Not talking about, ‘refugees’ form Sweden, UK, or parts of the former, USSR.
Not talking about,  ‘refugees’, from Greece, China, Japan, Italy.
Not, talking about  ‘refugees’, from, VN, Lajos, Korea. (etc. etc.)

 Talking about,  ‘refugees’, from places, who SOLE  Effort, is to  KILL.

Oh, I get it:   ’Not in, ‘YOUR’,  back yard’
But someone else’s, is  JUST   Fine  !!!!!!!

OH, and if you do not have the means to put some, in, ‘YOUR’, house.
How Many, Federal or State, Representatives,  Have Stepped forward?
How many, State  Governors, or their Staff, have Stepped forward?

Yep,  I get it.
 Just  FINE,
as long as it is  NOT, in,  ‘YOUR’,  backyard.



[/quote]

that 69,933 is TOTAL refugees, not just muslim refugees. you're point was that Sweeden's open door policy allowed them to be over-run by trouble making refugees, and I countered that by enlightening you that WE DON'T HAVE THAT POLICY. and we aren't making those mistakes, not even under OBAMA, and that you are yelling about your own fictional paranoia


people AREN'T candy, refugees aren't terrorists, are you a cannibal or something? eating people like candy...  idk what your problem is, but I hope it's not that

we screen refugees THOROUGHLY before letting them in, we really do, I know you don't believe me but, that's your problem, not mine

I'd be fine with any refugee moving into my apartment complex. I'm not chicken/paranoid like you.

Just admit you're chicken, and you have no compassion. Then confess that to Christ and pray for forgiveness for your evil ways.




Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/16 at 20:02:21

Lost,  
By your posts, (Don’t know you have never said)
But, by your posts, you are a, (Bernie Sanders) believer.
And you are not very old.

When you are, older, and Seen, Experienced, and Understand.
What is happening.  then, Perhaps.

But, today.
 I Thank YOU,    (If you are paying  Taxes)
Because, a amount of your, Taxes, you are,  Forced,  to pay.
Goes to a  Giant,  ‘Pozzi’,  scheme.
To Pay me, (and Many, MANY, others)    BACK,
’SOME’,   of the amount, WE,  were,  Forced, to pay in.

And if you are under 45 +/-,  ALL,  the Money, you have PAYED IN,  so far, and are continued to be,  Forced, to pay in.
Will Be,  ‘LOST’.

If this, Government, continues on the, (Bernie Sanders), path it is now on.

Just in case you don’t understand:
(Bernie Sanders)  =  (Bravo Sera),  which = (in Non  PC.)
Bull  s h I t.


Kinna  like, Lost,  
by you posts, (Don’t know you have never said)
But, by your posts, you are a, (Bernie Sanders) believer.
And you are not very old.

When you are, older, and Seen, Experienced, and Understand.
What is happening.  then, Perhaps.

But, today.
 I Thank YOU,    (If you are paying  Taxes)
Because, a amount of your, Taxes, you are  Forced  to pay.
Goes to a  Giant,  ‘Pozzi’,  scheme.
To Pay me, (and Many, MANY, others)    BACK,
’SOME’,   of the amount, WE,  were,  Forced, to pay in.

And if you are under 45 +/-,  ALL,  the Money, you have PAYED IN,  so far, and are continued to be,  Forced, to pay in.
Will Be,  ‘LOST’.

If this, Government, continues on the, (Bernie Sanders), path it is now on.

Just in case you don’t understand:
(Bernie Sanders)  =  (Bravo Sera),  which = in Non  PC.
Bull  s h I t.

Kinna Like, you don't understand,
'Refuges', from a  certain place,
are, 'really' not, Refuges'.

They are people, that  want to KILL, you, because YOU, do not 'believe' EXACTLY, what, they believe.

And they are 'exploiting' the fact, that their are so  MANY,  (Berni Sanders)  believers.   They get a  free pass.




Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/16 at 20:05:37


51726E695C6F69746E691D0 wrote:
" ... we screen refugees THOROUGHLY before letting them in,


Got some,  'Kool-Aid,  fo ya,   Wannn drink some  ????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by LostArtist on 10/26/16 at 20:06:11


795A6744465D5A53340 wrote:
[quote author=51726E695C6F69746E691D0 link=1477322673/0#7 date=1477537109] " ... we screen refugees THOROUGHLY before letting them in,


Got some,  'Kool-Aid,  fo ya,   Wannn drink some  ????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
[/quote]

how do you ride a motorcycle, you know they are dangerous right?

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/26/16 at 20:06:13


7A5945427744425F4542360 wrote:
[quote author=0836373B2935345A0 link=1477322673/0#5 date=1477535850]I got a simpler answer. No  Muslims. None. Ever. Problem solved.
See how easy that was?



that's unconstitutional, based on religion, and quite bigoted on your part too, but not surprising, and if that's you're perspective, might as well kick all the white people out now too, since they kill a lot more than muslims ever have, but that'd be unconstitutional too, based on race. but it'd make us a TON more safer than just stopping muslim refugees [/quote]


And, NON Citizens are protected by what part of the Constitution?

FFS, the American UNBORN don't have Constitutional Rights, but you think people from another COUNTRY do?


Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by LostArtist on 10/26/16 at 20:24:49


3D2224233E3908380830222E65570 wrote:
[quote author=7A5945427744425F4542360 link=1477322673/0#6 date=1477536352][quote author=0836373B2935345A0 link=1477322673/0#5 date=1477535850]I got a simpler answer. No  Muslims. None. Ever. Problem solved.
See how easy that was?



that's unconstitutional, based on religion, and quite bigoted on your part too, but not surprising, and if that's you're perspective, might as well kick all the white people out now too, since they kill a lot more than muslims ever have, but that'd be unconstitutional too, based on race. but it'd make us a TON more safer than just stopping muslim refugees [/quote]


And, NON Citizens are protected by what part of the Constitution?

FFS, the American UNBORN don't have Constitutional Rights, but you think people from another COUNTRY do?

[/quote]


well, the unborn AREN'T PEOPLE YET, so, no, until they are viable HUMAN BEINGS, they don't actually get all the rights, hell, they don't actually get all the rights until they are 18 or 21 or wait, 25/26 maybe?

and there are only a few constitutional rights that are citizen specific, so, no, you don't have to be a citizen to claim most of the rights the constitution grants people IN America.

in summary:

"Definition of a Citizen
The framers of the Constitution did not initially define U.S. citizenship. This lack of definition was used by the Supreme Court in the 1857 Dredd Scott case to deny U.S. born African-Americans citizen rights. In 1868, The 14th Amendment was ratified to rectify that. The 14th Amendment defines citizens as "all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The 14th Amendment did not include people born in a foreign country to American parents in its definition. Citizenship in those cases is granted by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952.

Citizen-only Rights
A few rights only apply to citizens. The Constitution extends the right to vote to citizens aged 18 and over. Only citizens have the right to run for federal offices. Additionally, only natural-born citizens of the United States may run for president. A naturalized citizen cannot be president even if he meets other qualifications for office.

Persons' Rights
The 14th Amendment says no state may "deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." The fact that the Constitution does not specifically use the word ''citizens'' in that part of the amendment gives the Supreme Court a basis to conclude that non-citizens are protected.

Subject to Interpretation
In addition to the equal protection granted in the 14th Amendment, the Supreme Court has held that non-citizens are entitled to due process under the Fifth Amendment. They have the right to hold non-government jobs and send their children to public school. In contrast, the Supreme Court has denied non-citizens the right to have state-funded vocations such as teachers or police officers. The Court has also held that foreign nationals could be detained or deported based on nationality, such as in the case of the USA Patriot Act of 2001."


from: http://classroom.synonym.com/constitution-protect-foreigners-21785.html

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/16 at 20:25:54


70534F487D4E48554F483C0 wrote:
how do you ride a motorcycle, you know they are dangerous right?


I Sure do know a  MC, is more dangerous to ride than a Cage.

But, I,    DO NOT, ride a  MC, with my,  EYES  CLOSED !



Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/16 at 20:41:47


0B2834330635332E3433470 wrote:
" ... I'd be fine with any refugee moving into my apartment complex.


Great,  Wonderful.  


Write a letter to the POTUS, the Governor, the Chair of your County,
That YOU are WILLING, and  ABLE, to take  ANY,  'Refugee',  
From ANY, Country, which is, 'Muslim biased', Which contains a significant number of people, what want to KILL, you, because you do not 'Believe', what They Believe.

Fill that Complex, FULL.

Don't ask the neighbors, that are living their now.
 Just  DO it !!!!

After you do that.
Report back.





Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/26/16 at 20:53:36

Why don't you READ what you post?


"all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof."

If a woman has a baby in your house, just exactly what JURISDICTION do you have over HER child?

Is she Your Wife? No.
Daughter? No
Relative of any kind? No.


So, why is Jurisdiction CONFERRED upon the baby of a foreign national?

What happens when a tourist has a baby in America?
Do we just Claim that baby?

You people don't do your own thinking.
You parrot CRAP that politicians have shoved down your throat.

ju·ris·dic·tion
[ch716]jo[ch861]or[ch601]s[ch712]dikSH([ch601])n/
noun
the official power to make legal decisions and judgments.
"federal courts had no jurisdiction over the case"
synonyms:      authority, control, power, dominion, rule, administration, command, sway, leadership, sovereignty, hegemony
"an area under French jurisdiction"
the extent of the power to make legal decisions and judgments.
"the claim will be within the jurisdiction of the industrial tribunal"
a system of law courts; a judicature.

It's hilarious watching the same people who are so confused by

the right of the People to keep and bear arms

are suddenly Constitutional scholars when we, as a nation, are supposed to comit societal suicide..

Does anybody actually believe the Founders intended to suckle the babes of illegals and pay for it?
How STUPID do people think they were?

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/16 at 20:54:12


5B7864635665637E6463170 wrote:
" ...  The Court has also held that foreign nationals could be detained or deported based on nationality, such as in the case of the USA Patriot Act of 2001."  



Thanks  Lost.
  You just  Made  other peoples  POINT !

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by raydawg on 10/27/16 at 05:18:11


64475B5C695A5C415B5C280 wrote:
well, in 2015 the USA took in 69,933  for a country of 370 million

so, what are you trying to teach us again?    

and the ceiling or 2017 is 110,000, for about the same 370 million people

what exactly is your problem or do you just really, really like playing Chicken little?  


Do you pretend to be stupid, or is your grasp on reality really that blind?

Chicken Little you cite.....

Do you read the news?
They are already running stories that the Trump campaign has damaged America, with dire prediction if elected....

Have you started to shave yet?

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by oldNslow on 10/27/16 at 05:46:37


092A36310437312C3631450 wrote:
[quote author=0836373B2935345A0 link=1477322673/0#5 date=1477535850]I got a simpler answer. No  Muslims. None. Ever. Problem solved.
See how easy that was?



that's unconstitutional, based on religion, and quite bigoted on your part too, but not surprising, and if that's you're perspective, might as well kick all the white people out now too, since they kill a lot more than muslims ever have, but that'd be unconstitutional too, based on race. but it'd make us a TON more safer than just stopping muslim refugees [/quote]

There is nothing even remotely unconstitutional about immigration laws designed to protect this nation (or any other nation for that matter} from potential or actual undesirables and denying them entry regardless of religion, ethnicity, or any other criteria,. That is the prerogative of any sovereign nation that wishes to remain one. Every nation on the planet does exactly that according to it's judgement of what is in its best interest.

Discrimination against individuals or groups who openly advocate doing you harm - ie Islamists - is not bigotry. It's just common sense.

Your comment about white people is just nonsense. Humans of all colors and races have been slaughtering one another with impunity since they crawled out of the swamp. If you are interested in surviving, either as an individual or as a country, it is prudent to try to identify folks who are liable to do that, and keep them away from you to the best of your ability.


Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by raydawg on 10/27/16 at 07:59:44

Oh he has identified that threat, Trump, conservatives, etc, yet he is too blind to see his own gas he is pouring on the fires of discontent cuz his is just......
Just as partisan, bigoted, and the very thing he faults in others  ::)

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by Serowbot on 10/27/16 at 08:17:16


76657D60657363040 wrote:
Just as partisan, bigoted, and the very thing he faults in others  ::)


Sounds familiar... :-?

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by raydawg on 10/27/16 at 10:22:01


495F48554D58554E3A0 wrote:
[quote author=76657D60657363040 link=1477322673/15#19 date=1477580384]Just as partisan, bigoted, and the very thing he faults in others  ::)


Sounds familiar... :-?[/quote]

Yes, I can admit it, can you?

I don't have to call you a name, lump you together with a extremely loose association, and then pretend I am superior, before I dismiss your challenge it total.

Sound familiar?

Your ABC and CNN have already accused Trump of stuff he hasn't even had the opportunity to do yet....

Get real, then we can talk.


Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by Serowbot on 10/27/16 at 13:26:31


72617964617767000 wrote:
[quote author=495F48554D58554E3A0 link=1477322673/15#20 date=1477581436][quote author=76657D60657363040 link=1477322673/15#19 date=1477580384]Just as partisan, bigoted, and the very thing he faults in others  ::)


Sounds familiar... :-?[/quote]

Yes, I can admit it, can you?
[/quote]
No one doubt's I'm a card carrin' Liberal...
I make no bones about it...

Which don't make things all that easy on his site... ;D

Title: Re: Yeah, but that won't happen Here
Post by raydawg on 10/27/16 at 14:23:50


2F392E332B3E33285C0 wrote:
[quote author=72617964617767000 link=1477322673/15#21 date=1477588921][quote author=495F48554D58554E3A0 link=1477322673/15#20 date=1477581436][quote author=76657D60657363040 link=1477322673/15#19 date=1477580384]Just as partisan, bigoted, and the very thing he faults in others  ::)




Sounds familiar... :-?[/quote]

Yes, I can admit it, can you?
[/quote]
No one doubt's I'm a card carrin' Liberal...
I make no bones about it...

Which don't make things all that easy on his site... ;D[/quote]

And a hypocrit too, and the others stuff ?

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