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Message started by Papa Bear on 10/20/16 at 05:32:15

Title: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by Papa Bear on 10/20/16 at 05:32:15

I brought my new (to me) 2011 S40 home yesterday.
It has 10,500 KM on it which is approximately 6,500 miles.

Is there something I should be addressing at this mileage?
The dealer changed the oil and filter so that should be good.

When should the spark plug(s) be changed?
How many plugs does the bike have?

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Post by Ruttly on 10/20/16 at 06:29:54

Cam chain tensioner, see verslagen in market place
Change spark plug at 10,000 miles
It only has one spark plug
Get yourself a factory or a clymer manual it will have recommended maintenance section

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Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/16 at 07:08:14

top of this section is a couple of newby posts you need to read.

Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 10/20/16 at 07:23:35


74757A7B78797E7F7C4D0 wrote:
How many plugs does the bike have?


This question makes me suggest that your bike be dealer serviced.

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Post by Rodger on 10/20/16 at 08:51:18

"How many plugs...." is not necessarily a silly question.  My Kawasaki Nomad V-twin has 4 spark plugs, and I've seen many older, air-cooled BMW's with aftermarket 2-plug heads.

Did you receive an owner's manual and/or OEM toolkit with your used bike?

What's your level of "do-it-yourself" experience with automotive/motorcycle maintenance? What tools do you have availlable?




Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by Papa Bear on 10/20/16 at 09:01:47


62686C666D646069373135050 wrote:
[quote author=74757A7B78797E7F7C4D0 link=1476966735/0#0 date=1476966735]
How many plugs does the bike have?


This question makes me suggest that your bike be dealer serviced.[/quote]

I can certainly see where my question would prompt such a reply.  ;)

I spent some time researching last night and had numerous sites where the plug number was listed under 'SPARK PLUGS' (plural)
I just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something.

I'll be 73 yrs old soon, my first bike was a 1964 Suzuki T20  
I also owned a 500 Titan along with a 1965 BSA 650 Lightning Rocket, Triumph 200 Tiger Cub, '79 Kawa 400 LTD. etc.

I quit riding in 1980 as my alcoholism was causing me to repeatedly drink/ride/crash - I had to quit riding or quit drinking ...so I quit riding.

Fast forward 35 yrs (I joined AA in 1989 and have 27yrs sober) and I picked up a little 150 SYM Wolf that I put 21,000Km on in a couple of years. I rediscovered the joy of riding - riding sober is a lot better than riding drunk !!

My little 150 is a blast for urban/suburban riding but I wanted something that I could get out on the highway with ... not too big, not too small. The S40 seemed to catch my fancy.
If you loved the 200 Tiger Cub or BSA 441 you will love the S40 even more.  8-)

Anyway, I read about the cam chain tensioner - are they bad right out of the box or can I enjoy this bike for a while before having to address the tensioner? My bike was owned by a lady and I ride like a grandfather (which I am) so do I have to be worried about it yet?

Also, what about fuel grade - does the S40 run it's best on regular fuel or it it worth gassing up with mid-grade or high-test?

Do you guys/gals use Iridium spark plugs or regular ones?

Thanks for your time:

Bob

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Post by oldNslow on 10/20/16 at 09:09:38

87 octane is fine.
Iridium plugs aren't necessary but won't hurt anything.
10 thousand miles seems to be about when the cam chain adjuster needs to be looked at.

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Post by HAPPYDAN on 10/20/16 at 09:44:53

It'll take regular gas, but the ethanol gives it fits. Doesn't handle the booze well, you might say ;). Some dealers sell a fuel additive that helps smooth things out and reduce the backfiring during decel and shut-off. I just use STA-BIL, which does about the same. Also check the petcock. If its a manual type, you're OK. If it's an automatic one, and the bike just "conks out", PRI should get you home. Nearly everyone here has had problems with the stock petcock, so there's lot of help here getting and installing a better replacement.

Also tell me more about that SYM Wolf Classic. I've been toying with the thought of picking one up and restyling it into a classic scrambler - a TRUE dual sport (not a street-legal dirt devil - think Honda CL175). Sounds like it's a solid, reliable performer. Does it have a center stand and kick starter? Those are really hard to get must-have items for a true scrambler. Is it fairly light and nimble, and can it take a pretty fair beating without falling apart? I've heard too many bad things about the Chinese knock-offs, that's why I ask. My current woodsy toy is a restored 1986 Honda CT110 - light and reliable, but tapped out at 45mph. After all is said and done, I have about $3000 in it :o, but it looks and runs good!

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Post by jcstokes on 10/20/16 at 11:09:01

If your rear tyre is still the original IRC, it would pay to check tread depth, these tyres are not renowned for high mileage and some including myself have had to replace in the 6 to 8 thousand mile range. There is a lot of tyre info on this site. Oil changes are about 6000km intervals.

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Post by Papa Bear on 10/20/16 at 13:01:03

The front tire looks quite good and the dealer installed a new IRC rear tire as part of the deal.

The gas tank still has the warning sticker that came on the bike.
It is rather large and covers the top of the tank just below the speedo-gas cap area.
How do you guys remove that sticker .. a hair dryer ??

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Post by Papa Bear on 10/20/16 at 13:15:11


605D46515060435D5751340 wrote:
Also tell me more about that SYM Wolf Classic. I've been toying with the thought of picking one up and restyling it into a classic scrambler - a TRUE dual sport (not a street-legal dirt devil - think Honda CL175). Sounds like it's a solid, reliable performer. Does it have a center stand and kick starter? Those are really hard to get must-have items for a true scrambler. Is it fairly light and nimble, and can it take a pretty fair beating without falling apart? I've heard too many bad things about the Chinese knock-offs, that's why I ask. My current woodsy toy is a restored 1986 Honda CT110 - light and reliable, but tapped out at 45mph. After all is said and done, I have about $3000 in it :o, but it looks and runs good!


The SYM Wolf Classic 150 is made in Taiwan, not China.
I have 21,000Km on mine and it just keeps running better & better.
I have had no repairs and with me on the bike (225 lbs) I can run 60-65 mph comfortably. The original rear gearing was 16/40 and I'm running 16/35 to keep revs down.
The Wolf has electric and kick start - a side AND center stand.
It is a cool little bike  


Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by Rodger on 10/20/16 at 15:59:54

Nice looking bike, Bob. Reminds me a bit of the Honda CL125 I had years ago (the only single-cylinder bike until I bought the S40 last year).

Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by Papa Bear on 10/20/16 at 18:09:38

It is actually a CB125S . Many parts are interchangeable

Pretty well the rest of the world got a wolf Classic 125 and North America got a 150 (identical bike with larger piston)

SYM made Honda bikes and cars under contract, shipped with Honda badging. It is Honda quality.
SYM is a big company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYM_Motors


Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by Papa Bear on 10/20/16 at 18:11:06

How do you remove that big "warning" sticker from the top of the gas tank?

Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 10/21/16 at 05:49:57


73727D7C7F7E79787B4A0 wrote:
It is actually a CB125S . Many parts are interchangeable


I bought my first street bike in college for $100, it was an early 70's CB125 (the year was 1981). Yes, this SYM bike does remind me of that little bike.

The SYM would be fun to ride for a weekend or two. That's about how fast I outgrew my CB. Great looking bike.

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Post by Tocsik on 10/21/16 at 06:52:34


10111E1F1C1D1A1B18290 wrote:
How do you remove that big "warning" sticker from the top of the gas tank?


Mine still had the sticker when I bought it used as a third owner.  It came off pretty easy and only left a little residue which I got off mostly with WD40 then a little Goo Gone.  Hair dryer always helps with decal removal or park it in the sun for a bit to warm up.
Welcome, congrats on the bike, joining and especially the sobriety!

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Post by norm92de on 10/21/16 at 07:00:26

Papa Bear,
I've heard that Goof-off will remove the tank sticker.

I removed mine with a hair dryer and mineral spirits. It took a long time.

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Post by stewmills on 10/21/16 at 07:04:30

Same here.  I was worried about damaging the paint so I used a hair dryer to get it hot and pliable and peeled it up with my fingenails bit by bit.

Make sure you have no leaking fuel.  Hot elements/sparks in a hair dryer ans fuel vapors are not a good combination. Maybe drape a small wet washcloth over the gas cap to hold in any vapors is a good safety measure.

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Post by Dave on 10/21/16 at 07:24:15

Parking the bike in the sun works as good as a hairdryer....and with either method you want as little fuel in the tank as possible, as you won't be able to heat up the area if the fuel is touching the top of the tank.

Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by Papa Bear on 10/21/16 at 08:01:14

Thank you, folks  ....- update !!

It's about 49F and drizzling here in SW Ontario so the "parking it in the warm sun" isn't an option right now.
(Dave, I need to ride down to KY to take advantage of the sun thing)

I took the wife's hair dryer out to the garage (tank is about 1/4 full) and slowly began warming the tank top.
The sticker didn't want to "peel off" so I gently worked my thumbnail under a corner and began to lift bits & pieces of sticker from the paint.
After about 10 minutes I had pretty well all the hard stuff removed - I soaked a rag with WD-40 and let it gently wet the area ... wiping VERY GENTLY.
In a couple of minutes all the decal and residue was gone !!

2 coats of NU-Finish and the tank looks great  ;)

Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by HAPPYDAN on 10/21/16 at 09:53:05


5A5B54555657505152630 wrote:
How do you remove that big "warning" sticker from the top of the gas tank?


Warm gently with a hair dryer or heat gun (NOT torch!) and, with a fingernail, pick at one corner until it comes up, continue heating and gently pull. Comes right off in one piece.
Thanks for the info on the Wolf! I originally went looking for a good used CL125, but - let's face it - 40+ years old, no longer in production, limited availability of parts, etc. I wanted a rider, not a garage queen. The CT110 is still in production (not sold in USA), and parts were easy to get (some from Australia, there known as the "Postie"). Heck, it probably was made by SYM. I found a SYM dealer in Seattle, don't know yet if he has a Wolf, but I plan to get up there and take a look.
Sorry! I hit the "post" before I read your previous entry. Glad it came off OK.

Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by Papa Bear on 10/21/16 at 11:51:11

Dan, Honda does a CB223S for the Japanese market.
I always thought it was a cool ride too.
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cb223s_2013.php

Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by ditz on 12/04/16 at 12:51:19

I would love to find one of the old Honda 90's. I would be happy with either the street version or scrambler but even the junk ones are priced like they are gold. I am not willing to spend that kind of money for one.

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Post by norm92de on 12/04/16 at 13:53:32

Papa Bear,
I used a hair dryer and mineral spirits but I have heard that Goo-Gone is very effective. My method was quite a bit of work.

The tank sure looks better without the sticker! darn government. ;)

Title: Re: Let the questions begin   :0)
Post by sauvage on 12/05/16 at 01:13:52

The best way to get stickers off the tanks is...wait for it...gasoline. And maybe some soft plastic scraper like a credit card.

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