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Title: Are you unaware? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/16 at 21:27:34 I know some of you are.. only a few here are Turned on upstairs. I hope the others wake up. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599 Return to search View email View source From Bill Ivey From:bi@globalculturalstrategies.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2016-03-13 17:06 Subject: From Bill Ivey Dear John: Well, we all thought the big problem for our US democracy was Citizens United/Koch Brothers big money in politics. Silly us; turns out that money isn't all that important if you can conflate entertainment with the electoral process. Trump masters TV, TV so-called news picks up and repeats and repeats to death this opinionated blowhard and his hairbrained ideas, free-floating discontent attaches to a seeming strongman and we're off and running. JFK, Jr would be delighted by all this as his "George" magazine saw celebrity politics coming. The magazine struggled as it was ahead of its time but now looks prescient. George, of course, played the development pretty lightly, basically for charm and gossip, like People, but what we are dealing with now is dead serious. How does this get handled in the general? Secretary Clinton is not an entertainer, and not a celebrity in the Trump, Kardashian mold; what can she do to offset this? I'm certain the poll-directed insiders are sure things will default to policy as soon as the conventions are over, but I think not. And as I've mentioned, we've all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking - and not just poll driven, Unaware, as in Ignorant of what is Really happening.. Gee, some people should be outraged.. I'm not, because Their CONSPIRACY was something I saw. Heck, I saw the lying attacks on Trump coming. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by thumperclone on 10/15/16 at 02:08:57 yes ol great seer of all things with the magic eight ball it is the entertainer that has the mindless enthralled by his false bravado and slight of hand what policies has he put forth? what issues has he addressed? none just slings mud like our resident self proclaimed sage seems like he want to lose |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 05:37:12 That's an incredible refuge to hide in, that Podesta has actually not been able to create law.. so, what he is saying doesn't Admit the Culture of D.C.is to create an unaware and compliant buncha dumbmasses. You THINK I am your enemy. I'm trying to help you. You're Exactly Who that email talks about. Remaining Unaware of the edge of a cliff while someone shouts, points, and aims a flashlight at it? I don't know what to call that. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 05:39:54 Ohh, I thought the Topic he In your reply was Podesta Noo, of Course not. You would never actually discuss the topic. You can't. Your Thumper CLONE Is more accurate and ironic than you know. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by Serowbot on 10/15/16 at 07:04:08 So Podesta is guilty of receiving an e-mail?... That's terrible... Bill Ivy - American folklorist, and was the seventh chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by raydawg on 10/15/16 at 07:37:41 4650475A42575A41350 wrote:
If Trump got an email from the Grand Wizard, would it be of interest to anyone? The question was rhetorical, I already know the answer.... Not only that, but my crystal ball is broken too ;D |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 08:06:29 The importance of the language is being avoided by the perpetually unaware, because SHOULD they allow themselves to grasp the full meaning of it, they would be psychically injured. It would force them to begin to question the beliefs that they have held so deeply. Here we have not only an admission that there has been a concerted effort to raise up children to be UNAWARE of what is Really happening,and just be compliant ( Stand in line and be quiet, Zero Tolerance, Trust Us, ) but that the willingness to remain compliant is fading. Well, Duuhh, the Future is BLEAK , economically. The future, if it's anything like the last forty years, will be one of fewer and ever diminishing freedoms. Yeah, the dumbmasses are still Unaware that the reality they wake up in every day is a construct of nothing But propaganda, (We're a nation of Laws, We are the Good Guys of the World, You're lucky you are an American, because you'll never know hunger and poverty and homelessness ), the BELIEFS most people walk around pretending are as much of a Given as is the reality of Gravity, are pure crap. Wake up. Our schools , our economy and our health care didn't just FAIL, they were sabotaged, y the same forces that Ike and other historical figures WARNED us about. Nobody has ever been Tried to explain away that list of highly regarded people, the link I've offered many times. Nobody can explain why Henry Ford said what he said . Were they the rantings of a madman? God, help them see. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by raydawg on 10/15/16 at 08:32:42 God, help them see. He will never force open anyone's eyes to truth. That my friend, is gospel. Many have said, they can show you the way. Many have said, put your faith in me. We came into this world, naked and alone, as we shall die. What have we/they gained? I spend my life, finding a fool. Blaming others, laughing at tools. You are so stupid. I am so cool. Its just that simple, taught that in school. Woke up one morn, a reflection I did face. No one get outs freely, as they leave this dang race. Reduced to reality, hearing my own voice. I really thought honestly, I had a real choice. As a salmon fell short, caught in the fisherman's snare. Was I the one stupid, thinking he'll release me with care? Nothing left now, my sperm will be spent. Might as well jerked off, others paying my rent. On the bank I lay rotting, deader than dead. Creatures tearing my flesh, At least they'll be fed. Too late now, to retreat and rescind.... Should paid attention, to all my AMEN! ;D |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 12:34:03 He will never force open anyone's eyes to truth. No but He can put thirst for truth and wisdom in a heart if that heart is even slightly open. How can people be so perpetually incorrect and never stop and look? Did Anyone else see the Horrific Trump stuff coming? It's THAT OBVIOUS,, if I can see it coming, it's obvious. And the arms deal in benghazzi,, I called that shortly after the event,, But I am a whack job..? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JVkkLDAm8I4 This guy explains a bit about the willfully blind, former KGB, and if anyone doesn't believe that there is and has been a concerted effort to teach stupidity as morally superior, you're brainwashed, and I SAID we are being destabilized,, Strange how observed reality is supporting that idea. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by raydawg on 10/15/16 at 13:08:30 6E7177706D6A5B6B5B63717D36040 wrote:
For the record, I never said you are a whack job. I have always believed your intentions were not to ridicule. My concern for you Jog is you shoulder too much of the burden, and you don't know when to set it aside. Is stubbornness a good thing? Perhaps, but it can also lead to obsessiveness, as well. I am not telling you what to do, only sharing my perspective out of consideration. A simple declaration, one I grasped the meaning of years ago at AA meetings, was "It is what it is" Often I default to the wisdom in that sentence, for it allows me to move on. Case in point. I have sponsored some in substance addictions. They try. They fail. A few have died. Am I a bad sponsor? No. I tried. I offered. I shared. They "chose" to succumb to their addictions. They knew the price. I, and historically others, told them the cost. They chose to pay it. Why? I don't know. It is what it is. I grieve. I move on to the reality of the moment. Also know as the present. I must dwell there, or I too, can perish into the great void. Jog, folks are scared. You can't assure them. You don't have the ability, tho your heart says otherwise. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 17:52:47 The fearful won't admit it, don't know it. A I didn't say Make them see. I said HELP them see. Which of the crew on the Titanic, desperately searching for an answer that would keep it afloat, were Obsessed? I know what is going on and the dangers ahead. Ohh, but I'm not REALLY able to say that. Forget how much I am exactly correct. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by Paraquat on 10/18/16 at 09:24:13 I think that email is pretty cut and dry. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by raydawg on 10/18/16 at 10:17:40 1D2C3F2C3C382C394D0 wrote:
Tell me folks, what is different from this stated belief, reasoning, etc, in this email correspondence than that which drove the Crusades, or ISIS, etc? |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/18/16 at 11:23:30 I, if I believed as you, would C and P that email and draw the conclusions, explaining the parallels, because it's not at all clear to me. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by raydawg on 10/18/16 at 13:34:05 617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:
Simple Jog, the ends justify the means. Lie, kill, break the law, abandon our constitution, is all perfectly acceptable, like collateral damage in war, if the good and rightness of the end is reached. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/18/16 at 13:53:37 Ohhh, you mean like It's Okay to assault trump supporters, because trump is evil. |
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Title: Re: Are you unaware? Post by raydawg on 10/18/16 at 14:35:36 3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:
Trump is but a small blip on the screen. It's waaaaay more than that. I posted the story where the leading feminist explain why Bill can talk snatch , but anybody on the right of them it's taboo. Safe zones on campus, uh, safe from opposing views and dialogue, on a frickin campus where ALL views should be entertained and dialogued..... So, free speach is trampled, no biggie to the bots and lost artistes of the world.... Hitter would still be in power if he had such comrades >:( ;D |
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