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Message started by MnSpring on 10/13/16 at 20:01:52

Title: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by MnSpring on 10/13/16 at 20:01:52

Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?

If a State, or area  decided to leave the USA,
And become a, ‘Independent Nation”
(What,  King  Bama, or  Queen  Hilarity  gonna,  BOMB Them,  and then say, ‘What Does It Matter” ?)

My Guess is,   Texas or Alaska,
But I think their is a, ‘dark horse;’ in the race,
 North Dakota.  

They don’t  need,  ANYTHING, from the,  Gimme/Gimme,
Ultra-Liberals, who put the Federal Tax Dollars in Their OWN  Pocket!

Which  State, or area, do  YOU, think,
would leave first, if  the SH**, ‘hits the fan’.  ?


Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by Serowbot on 10/13/16 at 21:53:33

Texas or Alaska, or both... no matter...
It can't happen,.. but if it did,... God help anyone stuck there...

Trump is the most anti- American candidate ever...
Jim Jones with money...
Red Bull and Kool-Aid don't mix... :-?



Trump is no longer running... he is in slash and burn mode...
He is the Phoenix with the golden parachute,,,,
No one else matters...
This is just ugly...

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/14/16 at 04:59:16

Sew, you've been wrong about everything in the past. Trump was gonna quit guaranteed according to you a few weeks ago. Stop reading The Puffington Host.....

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/14/16 at 05:01:30

Texas.
I'd love Texas to start seriously talking about it. North Dakota's economy is based on one thing.

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/16 at 07:13:58


Trump is the most anti- American candidate ever...


From the mouth of someone who has exactlyno understanding
of what America was and could have been. The anti American powers are running D.C.. every administration since JFK has been done TO us, not For us. Reagan was wounded, not killed, and I believe intentionally, it made Bush able to legally run twice, and actually Run the Whitehouse under Reagan.

Things were done while Reagan was in office that I don't believe he approved of in the least.

If everyone who is old enough to remember would just look back over the years, the things done with No support from the People.
Trust us, you'll thank us later, we know more than you..


And when it sucks, it's Never Repealed.

Trump is talking about ditching the trade deals and changing tax law to bring jobs back.

Anti America?
Explain why he is anti American, Bot.
He wants to enforce immigration laws,and protect the People here, who are struggling to stay alive.
Explain  THAT is anti American.

The Hospital, where my wife works may close. Longview Texas, where construction is constant, population growing, but the hospital on That side of town is about done..
But you think government is the answer, while government has grown, and the People have less after working more, you STILL  want more government. I'm surprised you didn't jump on the consumption tax idea as pure genius.  

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by MnSpring on 10/15/16 at 16:43:22


4254435E46535E45310 wrote:
" ... It can't happen,.. "

Really?
I wasn’t their,
but I seem to remember,
reading about a bunch of ‘colonists’,
240 years ago,
who basally said: 'Independent Nation'.
And it was another Country,
who said, (to the like),

“It can’t happen"

I believe, it was something about, a, ‘King’,
telling them, What, When, Where, How,
Taxing them on the fruits of THEIR  Labor,
(using it for, 'their', benefit Only)
And removing any, Freedom, they had.

Does anyone else, remember,
hearing about that ????


Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by Dagillespi on 10/15/16 at 18:19:06

I belive that if a state wanted to leave with the majority support from its people they should have the right to.  I just have a hard time seeing it being feasible for most states to pull it off.  The national Guard is owned individually by each state along with the equipment  (weapons, vehicles). But the soldiers are bound by state and federal contract.  What happens to federal Land and how you decide who stays and goes because I can guarantee there would be a large ingress and egress of people wanting to get out and wanting to come in. If PA ever went that route (it never will) I would be more than willing to stay and see how it went.

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by MnSpring on 10/15/16 at 18:43:06

 I believe that if a state wanted to leave with the majority support from its people they should have the right to. ... .  What happens to federal Land and how you decide who stays and goes ...".

That would be a interesting fact to determine.

As , NM, AZ, CALF, were,  ‘Calmed’ , (Taken from), by the Federal Government.
From  Mexico.
By Simply  Riding through on horseback, and saying:
’This Land is Now ours”.

Wasn’t is 1965, that the true  Border, between  the USA, (TX),  and Mexico, was  Finally Decided?

I believe the logistics, of going from a, ’new’ Country to the USA, would be like driving from one Country to the next in  Europe.

And any ‘land’, calmed by the USA, would simply be the, ’New Countries’,  Just like the USA took from Mexico.

Lots of logistics to figure out, but I believe, it could definitely be done.

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 18:54:53


5345524F57424F54200 wrote:
Texas or Alaska, or both... no matter...
It can't happen,.. but if it did,... God help anyone stuck there...

Trump is the most anti- American candidate ever...
Jim Jones with money...
Red Bull and Kool-Aid don't mix... :-?



Trump is no longer running... he is in slash and burn mode...
He is the Phoenix with the golden parachute,,,,
No one else matters...
This is just ugly...


You say stuff with authority.
Wrong, okay,,
Name the ONE STATE that can legally fly Its flag at the same height as the U.S.flag.

TEXAS?

Ding, ding ,ding,

A Winnah!

TEXAS was an independent country and included in the agreement to Join the Union, the Right to leave it.

Trust me, you would not be trapped here.
Your mouth would have you escorted to the border very quickly.

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 18:56:26


6B4E484643434A5C5F462F0 wrote:
I belive that if a state wanted to leave with the majority support from its people they should have the right to.  I just have a hard time seeing it being feasible for most states to pull it off.  The national Guard is owned individually by each state along with the equipment  (weapons, vehicles). But the soldiers are bound by state and federal contract.  What happens to federal Land and how you decide who stays and goes because I can guarantee there would be a large ingress and egress of people wanting to get out and wanting to come in. If PA ever went that route (it never will) I would be more than willing to stay and see how it went.


Read the Constitution. Federal Land is described.

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by raydawg on 10/16/16 at 07:34:10

Looking around me, observing, and taking all into consideration.....

I think you should rephrase your question.

You ponder, ask, which state would be first?

That has already been established.

You should ask, next, or second.

As many have already left, and joined that first state, of denial  ;D

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by MnSpring on 10/16/16 at 08:21:07


21322A37322434530 wrote:
" ... I think you should rephrase your question.
You ponder, ask, which state would be first?
That has already been established.
You should ask, next, or second.
As many have already left, and joined that first state, of denial  ;D


LOL,  Well, in the light of your question,
who,  ‘ Was’ ,  first, (that), ‘joined that first state, of denial’.

I think it was Calf, closely followed by NY & Ill.

Wondering about, Wash. though.
(Recently spent 4 days their, just outside Seattle)

I Did see,  a  Lot of  Preis’s, with Bicycle racks !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by raydawg on 10/16/16 at 08:40:57


1C3F022123383F36510 wrote:
[quote author=21322A37322434530 link=1476414112/0#10 date=1476628450] " ... I think you should rephrase your question.
You ponder, ask, which state would be first?
That has already been established.
You should ask, next, or second.
As many have already left, and joined that first state, of denial  ;D


LOL,  Well, in the light of your question,
who,  ‘ Was’ ,  first, (that), ‘joined that first state, of denial’.

I think it was Calf, closely followed by NY & Ill.

Wondering about, Wash. though.
(Recently spent 4 days their, just outside Seattle)

I Did see,  a  Lot of  Preis’s, with Bicycle racks !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
[/quote]

Seattle counts the votes, even if it takes three times to get the results they want!  ;D

The state is really diverse, lots of outdoors people, agriculture, and micro beer makers.
You have your fringe, but most, maybe I am tainted by living on an island, don't push their wealth, power, or ideas, onto others.

Its pretty mellow, reminds me of SoCal growing up before they got hustled into competing with each other.

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by Serowbot on 10/16/16 at 08:42:37


203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 wrote:
You say stuff with authority.
Wrong, okay,,
Name the ONE STATE that can legally fly Its flag at the same height as the U.S.flag.

TEXAS?

Ding, ding ,ding,

Uh huh... :-?
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texasflag.asp

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by thumperclone on 10/16/16 at 09:00:07


6A757374696E5F6F5F67757932000 wrote:
[quote author=5345524F57424F54200 link=1476414112/0#1 date=1476420813]Texas or Alaska, or both... no matter...
It can't happen,.. but if it did,... God help anyone stuck there...

Trump is the most anti- American candidate ever...
Jim Jones with money...
Red Bull and Kool-Aid don't mix... :-?



Trump is no longer running... he is in slash and burn mode...
He is the Phoenix with the golden parachute,,,,
No one else matters...
This is just ugly...


You say stuff with authority.
Wrong, okay,,
Name the ONE STATE that can legally fly Its flag at the same height as the U.S.flag.

TEXAS?

Ding, ding ,ding,

A Winnah!

TEXAS was an independent country and included in the agreement to Join the Union, the Right to leave it.

Trust me, you would not be trapped here.
Your mouth would have you escorted to the border very quickly.
[/quote]
 WRONG again tex
there are no flag laws its a flag code
many states fly their state flag on the same height pole
texas WAS a quasi independent country


Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by MnSpring on 10/16/16 at 09:18:48


4254435E46535E45310 wrote:
" ... Uh huh... :-?  


’snoops’,  has   NEVER,  ‘Adjusted’, the  Truth.   Never   LOLOLOLOLOLOL
  (Reporting, what is it, TOLD, to say.)    
Nop,   Never  !!!!!!!!!

When the Texas Flag is flown from the same halyard as the Flag of the United States of America is flown, it must be underneath our National Colors.

When the Texas Flag is flown on a flagpole adjacent to the flagpole on which the Flag of the United States of America is flown, it must be unfurled after our National Colors, and it must be displayed at the left of the Flag of the United States of America.

When the Texas Flag and the Flag of the United States of America are displayed at the same time, they should be flown on separate flagpoles of equal length, and the Flags should be approximately the same size.


From: http://www.house.state.tx.us/about-us/state-of-texas-flag/

When flown from adjacent flagpoles, the national flag and the state flag should be of approximately the same size and on flagpoles of equal height, and the national flag should be on the flag's own right (observer's left). The state flag should neither be flown above the flags of other U.S. states, nations and international organizations on the same flagpole, nor be flown from a higher adjacent flagpole.

From: http://texasalmanac.com/topics/flags-symbols/flag-code

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by Serowbot on 10/16/16 at 09:39:29

wiki...
Quote:
Urban legend
The Texas flag flying below the US flag at the Texas State Capitol

It is a common urban legend that the Texas flag is the only state flag that is allowed to fly at the same height as the U.S. flag. Allegedly, Texas has this right inherently (as a former independent nation) or because it negotiated special provisions when it joined the Union (this version has been stated as fact on a PBS website).[24] However, the legend is false.[/quote]

Texas almanac...
http://texasalmanac.com/topics/flags-symbols/flag-code
[quote]No flag other than the national flag should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the state flag's right (observer's left). The state flag should be underneath the national flag when the two are flown from the same halyard.


https://www.collinsflags.com/blog/flag-history/deciphering-texas-flag-gossip
http://www.thedailyflag.com/2008/01/15/myth-busting-and-the-texas-flag/
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/faq.htm

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by MnSpring on 10/16/16 at 16:53:41


4452455840555843370 wrote:
" ...  The state flag should be underneath the national flag when the two are flown from the same halyard.


Oh,  did someone,  LEAVE OUT, if the flags, are  flown on, TWO halyards,  (Flag Poles).  ?

Title: Re: Which State,  ’would’ ‘Leave’, first?
Post by MnSpring on 10/16/16 at 17:00:38

Point, (Discussion is).
If a  State or Area, wanted to become a, Independent Nation,
Like a group of colonist did in 1776.

Who do you think would be first.

The, ‘Can’t Do It’,  does  NOT factor in.
The aforementioned colonists, were TOLD, the Same thing !

Only this time. With the Media, putting, ‘Blood & Guts’  FIRST.
It would be a  ‘paper’ fight.

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