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Title: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/12/16 at 05:21:39 vote for the man..... http://www.politico.com/ Wrong link I think, arg |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/16 at 07:29:03 IDK Ray, depending on how you're feeling like identifying today, might be the link you wanted.. I hope not, but, to each his, errr, her own, I guess. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/12/16 at 10:09:35 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump-2016-biographers-214350 That is the link ;D |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/16 at 21:25:31 Like I said The more they pile on The outsider The more I like The outsider. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/13/16 at 03:18:49 3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:
I wish we had a choice in a real outsider, he is not it.... I don't understand people believing this sickman is it. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/13/16 at 11:54:10 You're assuming that the words you heard were exactly what he said, and that nobody messed with, edited anything. Then, ask yourself, who Wins, BIG, in America? If you say The polite, gentlemen,, I'm not sure you've looked at reality. And what options are available? What policy changes do the candidates offer? Let's don't get sidetracked. This isn't about who is a boy scout, it's about the future of America. Hillary, even IF she hadn't successfully defended a rapist. Even IF she hadn't worked to destroy the victims of Bill's thingy. WHAT she stands for, everything she wants, isn't what is good for America. Trump is saying the same things I've been saying. I have to vote for him, or vote against America. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/13/16 at 12:38:08 76696F6875724373437B69652E1C0 wrote:
He is saying, that is key, actions, he never has, nor do I feel he has the nack to get those things he says, done. His temperament is all wrong for the job. Hilllary, as snakey as she is, still knows how to work the system. Probably better than most. And again, she will go where the money is, for that is the system. The free giveaway entitlements unfettered is about to crash, as the backs upon who it rest, are broken... She knows that. It won't be the deplorable but from the bottom up, who start the revolution if thing are not addressed and fixed in a fair and sustainable manner. As I said before, this next administration will be saddled like no others, here and abroad. I think she really might not last 4 years. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/13/16 at 12:50:02 Dude, her hands have been on so much that hurt America. You don't Think he can actually accomplish the things that he says, just as I have Been saying, need done. Well, she sure as nuts wojt even TRY. She's part Of the problem. Bill SIGNED NAFTA. And told us how good for America it would be. She Was For the TPP, now she's not, because she has Public policy and Private policy. Have you read any of the leaked Wall street speech info? I have. And it's not good. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/13/16 at 13:54:33 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
Dude, it's the same thing the repubs do..... She has had lots of help. Trump is one of them, period, except he is a carnival clown as well |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by thumperclone on 10/13/16 at 14:01:41 yep the: EL DONALDO GRANDE clown is doomed his worse fear has come about he is and always will be A LOSER! |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/13/16 at 14:25:42 Did anybody read the link I provided? Not the first one, that was wrong, but the second one? These people know this guy from years of study. The man just found a raw nerve, and exposed it. Yes, the deplorable exsist, all across the spectrum, and I believe it will grow accordingly as the current structure that ALL the elistist participated in, is not sustainable, period. Hillary will need to really tell the truth for I don't believe we can do anymore of the same without a major collapse, banking, housing, etc... You on any type of medical assistance and you drink booze, smoke, over weight, I think accountability is a coming, Michele Obama is right about paying for vices.... |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/13/16 at 14:57:46 Yeah, insurance Rates already reflect smoking penalties, and some pay more for being overweight. So, what do you want? I mean, After the consumption tax that puts people who earn five million dollars in a position to live like a pauper on just one million and put four away, untaxed, while everyday people who have no savings, spend everything, and go into debt, to live simple lives, thereby paying taxes on everything, while someone has four million dollars untaxed. You don't have a clue what it means to wall street. If you're gonna invest a million dollars but its gonna get taxed, then where is the incentive? No risk, no tax, in the bank. Taxes plus risk if invested. Explain why I am wrong. Or I'll drag you all over the board till you either see the folly in this idea or at least figure out that saying it is gonna be so much trouble that you stop. Now, you've put this forward. I Explained WHY it's not good, twice. You haven't offered any rational arguments against my position. But, you keep pushing it, as if you still believe in it. Then at LEAST explain WHY what I've said is Wrong. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by Trippah on 10/13/16 at 15:59:52 To vote for a man as basically amoral as Trump because you don't like Clinton: please admit you need medical help and get it. Supporting evil is not a way to fight entrenched greed - and supporting Hitler like self absorbance is not the road to increased freedom (or even regaining lost freedoms.) |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/13/16 at 16:18:48 7B5D465F5F4E472F0 wrote:
I don't think he is evil, just sick. That is the nature of a narcissist. They believe that they are sincere, but as we all know, we lie the loudest when we lie to our self, and that is where his conflict rest, but they believe its because of others not understanding them, not to be evil, like Hitler or Manson, etc... |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/13/16 at 16:55:19 It's just kinda funny how Trump is Guilty, on allegations, Yet, Hillary defended a rapist of a child, who was so injured she could never have children. I'm tired of posting Proof that she knew he was guilty. Bill Lost his law license. Paid out $850,00.00 to settle a sex case. Hillary , with every Bit or more reason to believe the accusers, is accused of doing things to intimidate and ruin Bill's victims. Would the SS agents lie? Why? Wouldn't JUST a good, inside the Whitehouse, book sell? That story came out because someone decided enough is enough. Hillary is ruthless and hateful. Read some of the excerpts. I'm not going hunting for it again. You really can only lead a horse to water. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/13/16 at 17:27:51 7A656364797E4F7F4F77656922100 wrote:
It wasn't, and it still isn't, the sex.... Yes, it makes great tabloid. But you miss the whole point. I have no idea why Hillary went the sex route. I wouldn't think she would need it, but I guess the gurus get the BIG bucks cause they know the titillation stuff garners the mentality of those who wear slip ons..... |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/13/16 at 19:40:52 Are you suggesting Hillary had a hand in it? You know, I PREDICTED a hailstorm on Trumps head the day before. What does it take to get people to just think? |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/14/16 at 03:35:26 2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 wrote:
Why did she need her own server, she has a hand in everything.... That is the Clinton's game. It is the extension of our political system system holes, where they drive a truck through it. Her day is coming, yes, be patient. But it won't come from where folks think it would. Often it takes a total collapse, before we rebuild. People can blame Trump for the anger that exist, but it was brewing way before he jumped on it..... The fragmentation the parties have used to empower themselves is coming to a boiling point...... It won't go away, peacefully, as the angst they instilled, has turned toxic, to many, many, people. Are the stories true about Comey and the FBI rank and file? I dunno, but this is how deep a riff exists possibly. You know it exists in many police departments across our nation, as they have been scapegoated too. Ditto, military, lot at the VA.... Look how Hillary told the wealthy you need to be two different people. She spoke the truth. She learned this, didn't invent it. It is how the politicians have been duping us for decades. Media too, they make billions off the system. SEX sells..... I still know guys at work, 30 plus years of Union work, democrats from the get go..... They are mad as hell, scary mad. They echo Trumps message, and anger, it ain't going away. I don't see how. But again, that is not where the greatest threat will come. This anger will meld with the peasants who don't get what they want, and all the others who feel lied to. Bernie pushed Hillary way left than she is, and these folks have the propensity to act out, as evidenced many times over, by BLM, Occupy Wall Street, etc.... I hope I am wrong. I hope Hillary can pull us back. I think she has the smarts to do it. She has outsmarted all that try and take her down, politically... Can she use that to unite? I don't think so, once a revolution starts, and I think it has been brewing since Ross Perot, but chastised, instead of entertained, it has too many folks, with many different grievances, to address, and hopefully stop. Like I said, cops, doctors, etc, smart folks, back bone to our way of life, are mad, angry, tired. So are the Blacks, poor, uneducated, etc.... :-[ |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/16 at 05:48:40 People can blame Trump for the anger that exist, but it was brewing way before he It's the knowledge that the system has been screwing Americans that created the anger that created the support for Trump. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/14/16 at 13:26:40 6B747275686F5E6E5E66747833010 wrote:
When something is predicated on fabrication, like Hillary telling Wall Street she needs two identities, its to fool both. It's not sustainable, for its based upon deception. Our system has been deploying this behavior for a long time now, and it's about to crumble, as the controlling of news will be harder to ultilize, as we have seen by the leaks, etc. Her I don't recall to answer will come down on future problems too, it's like telling your kids not to drink, while you are drunk. Trying to deliver, based on lies, is next to impossible. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/16 at 18:32:31 Both sides have had opportunities to repeal the bad actions of the other. Both sides Created the problem. The RNC has not paid for One Trump ad. The RNC wishes Trump would fail miserably. Both sides, the media, all part of the problem. You State that she is lying to both sides. Why? What do you see that would cause her to lie to the wall street types? That's her bread and butter.. No, the lies are for us. It was That GD Video, I tell ya! And who believed it? |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/14/16 at 19:19:01 3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:
I am getting tired of talking about it ;D I would say she, Trump, etc, are a symptom of a failing system. We are all to blame, in reality. Its like those who knew Hitler was a bad seed, didn't speak up, because at the moment, they were not getting dragged away. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/16 at 20:26:26 I'm sick of being blamed for lying candidates. No, WE are not to blame. When both sides are screwing us, how are We to blame? We VOTED THE BUMS OUT, Nothing changed. Nothing repealed. That's the fault of the People?? How? You get robbed, call the cops, then toe the dirt, and sheepishly say It was my fault anyway.. sure you do.. Blame yourself if you feel guilty. Don't you Ever blame me. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by Serowbot on 10/15/16 at 07:06:39 Trump never lies... |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/15/16 at 07:11:22 3C2325223F3809390931232F64560 wrote:
I say it in the context that we let them divide us. Its not about guilt, its about reality. If we learn by our mistakes, then our mistakes become opportunity, to learn, and overcome. Which by default, removes it, and its negativeness, from our lives, if we humbly accept the truth. Jog, think about this for a spell before you reply, please.... Look deeply inward, see if you can see any of its influences in your life....please. America, all of us, collectively have one ugly trait, that we have allowed to persuade us. It emanates throughout our private, spiritual, political, and social life. It has been a tool used against us, manipulated, and controlled us. It has been the motivation, that has driven us. We have wrapped it in all sorts of positive accolades. We have used it to judge others, and assign inferiority to them, when their level of success did not rise to some magical elevation, we determine, that is right..... It's greed. One final observation, and I am not sure if it has any relationship to this, but I find it uncanny. What a better world this would be if we all agreed.... No wars, no arguments, no hate, etc. Look at the root of that word. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/15/16 at 07:11:48 1305120F17020F14600 wrote:
Who said that Bot? |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 08:19:35 6F796E736B7E73681C0 wrote:
Well, that certainly wiped her slate clean. You actually believe that the mountains of misdeeds by Hillary are able to be hidden behind Trumps? I never said he is a Boy Scout, but to be so unwilling to add up the obvious facts and Be Honest in your own heart is just stunning. Why stubbornly support such an evil woman?? She can't get people to attend the events, the media is completely on her side, the RNC won't support Trump, and yet, she is not trouncing him in the rigged polls. The DNC admittedly had to rig the nomination! You're in a TINY minority AND you're truly the anti American people. Trump is wrong about some things, but his intentions are For Americans, first. Hillary will finish destroying America. Bet on it. If you're still on this board a year after she takes office, I'll be shocked. What she will do will shame you and LA so much you'll leave. Hell, maybe not, maybe you'll find a way to call it good. The Refugees, may they find their way to your town, |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/15/16 at 08:39:08 627D7B7C61665767576F7D713A080 wrote:
Well, that certainly wiped her slate clean. You actually believe that the mountains of misdeeds by Hillary are able to be hidden behind Trumps? I never said he is a Boy Scout, but to be so unwilling to add up the obvious facts and Be Honest in your own heart is just stunning. Why stubbornly support such an evil woman?? She can't get people to attend the events, the media is completely on her side, the RNC won't support Trump, and yet, she is not trouncing him in the rigged polls. The DNC admittedly had to rig the nomination! You're in a TINY minority AND you're truly the anti American people. Trump is wrong about some things, but his intentions are For Americans, first. Hillary will finish destroying America. Bet on it. If you're still on this board a year after she takes office, I'll be shocked. What she will do will shame you and LA so much you'll leave. Hell, maybe not, maybe you'll find a way to call it good. The Refugees, may they find their way to your town, [/quote] The riddle you ask buddy, is simply answered. Ignorance is bliss, period. Why? Because we are scared of truth. Why? Because we have been told to fear. The boogeyman lives in the hearts of us all. Some just don't realize, frozen by that fear, all you have to do is have the courage to pull the covers off, get out of bed, cross the room where he is standing, waiting to capture you, and turn the light on ;D |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 12:47:24 America, all of us, collectively have one ugly trait, that we have allowed to persuade us. I'm not persuaded by anyone. I'm well aware of what Trump is. I'm well aware that he is Wrong in some fundamental ways. He has not Tanked the economy Lied to me to con me into Bamicare Taken outrageously stupid chances with security. Hillary has Demonstrated Clearly she is nothing but horrible for America. I'm not persuaded. I've evaluated. I'm not supporting the Fed, that is for the Persuaded. I'm a total maverick here, so, you can own having been Persuaded.. Again,for all you Non racists Four guys are gonna race twenty miles. You know nothing about any of them except that two are Eskimos and two are Kenyan. You bet on which guys? It's okay to ask a few questions about the men . I want you to. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by thumperclone on 10/15/16 at 12:51:24 one of each ;) |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by raydawg on 10/15/16 at 13:11:10 4D5254534E4978487840525E15270 wrote:
I never said Trump, or man, I said our self appointed greed. |
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Title: Re: Exactly why I would never..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/16 at 18:37:26 self appointed greed. WTF is that? |
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