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Title: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/03/16 at 07:57:16 What criteria would one have to exhibit? Tolerance, acceptance, of others? Are their any absolutes? Judging? Retaliations? |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by pg on 10/03/16 at 08:08:28 62716974716777100 wrote:
Why yes of course, hatred for conservative ideals, Christianity, caucasian people, males, capitalism, free markets, and anything that may be associated or construed to the items previously listed. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/03/16 at 09:30:34 Hatred? I wonder if that is over used, like racist, is? Yes, folks get emotional, demostrative, passionate, etc.... But I am not sure it hate.... |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by Paraquat on 10/03/16 at 11:10:58 http://funigy.com/img/0216/judging-people-by-their-race-and-sex-is-wrong.jpg --Steve |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/03/16 at 13:46:47 Oh Steve I get that, which is sorta why I asked the question. I see Lost Artist posting accusatory remarks based on pretty shallow reasoning, if all he has is a message board and talking points parroted off other belief commonality sites, as if that is the holy grail. So, I am wondering if a liberal, of which Bot accused me, flippantly, or in jest, what that criteria might be. In my own life experience I have seen "liberals" push back in ugly ways and behaviors more than conservatives, but hey, it could be because I am perceived as a white entitled male, well, that is, if I dare oppose or raise questions about their beliefs.... It's just odd, like the emperor didn't see he was nekked, and I was hoping to get some feedback from "them". But I guess you'll have to suffice ;D |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/03/16 at 15:06:10 One must require perpetual societal change. There is no Finished. No Done. No Goal Line. Just fuss and worry. Someone nailed it last week, If a conservative doesn't like something, they avoid it. If a leverage doesn't like something, they want a law against it. If a conservative likes something, he does it. If a liberal likes something, they want a law to make it mandatory. Now that's how they are. Gonna keep you safe and happy whether you want it or not. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by pg on 10/03/16 at 16:29:14 7D6E766B6E78680F0 wrote:
Perhaps intolerable resentment.... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/03/16 at 17:10:21 ha·tred [ch712]h[ch257]tr[ch601]d/ noun intense dislike or ill will. "racial hatred" synonyms: loathing, hate, detestation, dislike, distaste, abhorrence, abomination, execration; More Face it. The left have hatred in their hearts for people like me. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by thumperclone on 10/04/16 at 07:53:47 6077717D7262100 wrote:
Why yes of course, hatred for conservative ideals, Christianity, caucasian people, males, capitalism, free markets, and anything that may be associated or construed to the items previously listed. Best regards, [/quote] roflmao I needed a good laugh today pretty sad if youre serious |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by Serowbot on 10/04/16 at 09:27:50 Liberals see government as a pooling of our resources for the benefit of us all... We want our money to be spent wisely, and to make America a better place... Conservatives see government as the enemy... and revenues as theft... The problem Conservatives have is electing people to do jobs that they despise, and a government that they hate... |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by LostArtist on 10/04/16 at 09:42:36 647B7D7A6760516151697B773C0E0 wrote:
what?? conservatives don't like gay relationships or gay marriage or taxes , etc.... and they are CONSTANTLY fighting to change those laws, they don't simply avoid it, conservatives don't like protests, they actively use their media pundits to speak out against protests, they want to outlaw freedom of speech by outlawing flag burning and other disrespectful/unpatriotic acts. I could go on... now, liberals do some of the same, but usually they are fighting to EXPAND rights, not take them away and your last two are much the same, conservatives LIKE Christian displays of holiday seasons and interpret the laws to protect those displays, they want to mandate "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays" there's just as much whining and complaining by conservatives as there is by liberals the difference isn't liberal or conservative, it's authoritarian/totalitarian vs libertarian you just see it the other way because you're so far conservative |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by LostArtist on 10/04/16 at 09:43:26 3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:
and you have hatred in YOUR heart for people like Hillary Clinton |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/16 at 09:51:47 Yep.. a despicable creature. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by thumperclone on 10/04/16 at 09:53:18 3E2127203D3A0B3B0B33212D66540 wrote:
yes Donald is |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by LostArtist on 10/04/16 at 10:08:33 5F4C54494C5A4A2D0 wrote:
I moved from a fairly conservative area of Pennsylvania, it was the middle of the state, far away from Liberal Philadelphia and the various cities, I lived in farm country. Hunting, fishing, growing a garden, country living. Fairly conservative, and as a teenager I leaned a bit against that to the left, but still what most city liberals would consider conservative. and I AM STILL that MODERATE, but I moved to Texas I moved to one of the top 4 conservative counties in Texas. I started listening to conservative radio, all that was around that wasn't music or sports, I started listening to Fox TV radio at work, it's like a train wreck, I just can't look away. the sheer bias this media portrays... it's clear as day to a MODERATE, but the people around me, Texans, super super super conservative, nothing like them in PA, even where I am from, if you exhibit one iota of liberal thinking you are ostracized here that I'm afraid to even ask for help if I ever need it from my neighbors and again, I'm Modearate, I lean a bit left but more on libertarian issues than anything else, so that's MY LIFE experience. I moved to Texas during Bush years so politics was really kinda quiet, cause if anything was wrong you'd end up blaming Bush, not only a conservative, but also a Texan, so people just kept their heads down (in the sand maybe) and didn't voice any objections if they had any, then Obama, a black, Northern Liberal commie Kenyan got into office and the complaining and whining and twisting in the wind over him hasn't stopped, ever, not for one dang day. they yelled about his backdrops, his suits, how flies flew around him, how he saluted or didn't salute as he got off his plane, they picked him apart for 8 years, over every little thing, not to mention the big things, dear God, I haven't heard such a bunch of cry babies in my entire life. Now I imagine the reverse is opposite if you life in NYC or any city really. So the distortion of our environments IS REAL. There is no substance being discussed, only personality conflicts and faults. Shallow reasoning ONLY. the reality is people LOVE complaining, as long as it doesn't have any connection to themselves. You only hear what you want to hear, You blame Obama for not getting anything done, IGNORING that the republican congress has NEVER worked with him ever on anything, they started out directly antagonistic, stating plainly that there primary goal was to make sure that Obama was a one term president and that without Congress the President has limited powers. so go ahead, call me shallow, just know that I see you the same way, we all need to get out of our echo chambers sometimes, I live in an entire state outside my comfort zone, what do you do to challenge your beliefs??? |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by LostArtist on 10/04/16 at 10:09:21 756A6C6B7671407040786A662D1F0 wrote:
so your heart isn't all that pure after all then, WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE? |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/16 at 10:37:18 What she is is laid bare to see. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by LostArtist on 10/04/16 at 10:58:44 Also raw, I often post links to back up my "shallow reasoning" while you often just quote unknown sources and copy paste them, if I ever copy and paste I always include the link where that info is from, I've seen you not do that several times, you do usually at least state your source though, so at least you aren't completely ignorant |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by LostArtist on 10/04/16 at 10:59:29 716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 wrote:
Trump's skin is SO thin that you can see through him easily, unless you are blinded by hatred, as you seem to be |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by Paraquat on 10/04/16 at 11:13:12 http://https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R_pUBmwqFjI/V0WLFjiuukI/AAAAAAAAGcQ/vI9WI3WLLPwngheC2Btm0g3-gLnXJmo7wCLcB/s1600/image000000.jpg --Steve |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by WebsterMark on 10/04/16 at 11:14:33 Trump's skin is normal, like the rest of us. When people say politicians have thick skins, what they are really saying is politicians are so narcissist and power hungry, they'll put up with virtually any personal attack to reach their goal of grasping power. None of us would put up with someone calling us a liar, cheat etc.... |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/16 at 11:16:19 I didn't START with my opinion of Hillary. I watched her over decades. She earned my low opinion of what she is. Trump might screw America. With Hillary, it's a given. It's like the difference between playing Russian roulette with a revolver or an automatic. With Hillary, it's a given, with Trump, hey, maybe you live. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by thumperclone on 10/04/16 at 12:45:44 66797F7865625363536B79753E0C0 wrote:
any facts to back up your position? |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/16 at 12:53:30 Really? That's the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by thumperclone on 10/04/16 at 13:44:52 485751564B4C7D4D7D45575B10220 wrote:
SOOO your position is baseless figures are you and trump related?? |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/16 at 14:34:01 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D The closer to TRUTH the deluded are dragged, the more desperate they are. You're Desperate. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/04/16 at 14:57:18 5B4D5A475F4A475C280 wrote:
I would love to see some examples Bot, please. I would think the list must be long, for you to declare such a blanket statement. Thanks |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by MnSpring on 10/04/16 at 15:38:35 302C312934213627282B2A21440 wrote:
Russian roulette. Is Very Much, like the people that have a blind eye to a certain Political Party. Russian roulette, started off as a GAME, A GAME, to Impress the Ladies at a Parlor Party. All, the, (Usually Men) who Played the GAME, ALL, knew the outcome, BEFORE, they played that Russian roulette GAME. (Thus greatly Impressing the Ladies, of how BRAVE they were!) Yes Virginia, Russian roulette, IS a GAME. (Originally) What Most people do not know, WHAT, the Game Is ! Here’s the deal. You take a revolver, you are going to use in the, game of, Russian roulette. ( You ONLY, tell the other GAME, players, NO ONE ELSE). You Hone, Polish, and Hone, Polish, and Hone and Polish, the cylinder/rod, so it can be moved, (when cyl stop is disengaged), with your breath. Now you play the game, and impress the ladies. You put one loaded round in the chamber. That Cyl is SO Polished, and SO Smooth, that EVERY time, you ’spin it’, the hole, with the round in, will be at the BOTTOM. (Think, what now is the heaviest part ?) HOLLYWOOD, simply, ‘forgot’, about the important part. And reduced the certain out come, to a outcome, of, pure chance. Just like Playing Slots/Craps/Roulette, (Pure Chance) vs., Playing Poker or Black Jack. And the people that hold a handgun, sideways, play the, ‘Lotto’, part, ONLY, because they can not UNDERSTAND, how to make it a, certain, outcome. (Other variations, Hand loading, with no powder, and a primer, which has been deactivated.) But, Russian roulette, is a very good analogy, of a group of people, voting ONLY one way, BECAUSE, they simply don’t know, "The Rest Of The Story”. (Paul Harvey) And REFUSE to LEARN ! Very simple, Trump, KNOWS, Hillery, does NOT ! |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/04/16 at 16:09:40 THREAD JACK......THREAD JACK......THREAD JACK.....ALERT ;D You guys wanna get a room, please? |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by MnSpring on 10/04/16 at 17:21:24 6B78607D786E7E190 wrote:
Can't understand it. Not my fault. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by LostArtist on 10/04/16 at 20:08:00 33203825203626410 wrote:
I would love to see some examples Bot, please. I would think the list must be long, for you to declare such a blanket statement. Thanks [/quote] to quote the great Saint Ronald Regan “Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” and it's been the republicans who use shutting down the government as a negotiating tactic (at least in recent memory, I'm sure the democrats have done it too) It's the conservatives that want to starve government by NEVER raising taxes for any reason every again Republicans run on reducing the size of government, your medicare, your ss, your unemployment, your food stamps, etc... Democrats are constantly fighting to increase benefits, to make life in general better, a more educated populace, a healthier populace, a fed populace (yeah I know in some city's democrats want food for the poor to be inspected like food for the rest of us, and that has shut down some outreach programs, and that does suck) Democrats want clean water, not pipelines, or lead in the water as in Flint, democrats want the EPA to actually have teeth, as opposed to allowing self regulated industries allow themselves to blow up in West, Texas, or allow them to leak benzeene above safe limits into the atmosphere for months at a time and that's just off the top of my head for now, and I'm kind tired |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/05/16 at 03:53:30 1635292E1B282E33292E5A0 wrote:
I would love to see some examples Bot, please. I would think the list must be long, for you to declare such a blanket statement. Thanks [/quote] to quote the great Saint Ronald Regan “Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” and it's been the republicans who use shutting down the government as a negotiating tactic (at least in recent memory, I'm sure the democrats have done it too) It's the conservatives that want to starve government by NEVER raising taxes for any reason every again Republicans run on reducing the size of government, your medicare, your ss, your unemployment, your food stamps, etc... Democrats are constantly fighting to increase benefits, to make life in general better, a more educated populace, a healthier populace, a fed populace (yeah I know in some city's democrats want food for the poor to be inspected like food for the rest of us, and that has shut down some outreach programs, and that does suck) Democrats want clean water, not pipelines, or lead in the water as in Flint, democrats want the EPA to actually have teeth, as opposed to allowing self regulated industries allow themselves to blow up in West, Texas, or allow them to leak benzeene above safe limits into the atmosphere for months at a time and that's just off the top of my head for now, and I'm kind tired[/quote] Those are talking points, can you give me examples. When they were applied, why, and how. What were the implications, what were the results. I have seen where the republicans have offered less, when doing the budget, but still spending more, and the democrats call it a cut. So, if you would like to give examples, as what I listed, that would help. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by WebsterMark on 10/05/16 at 05:58:50 The default liberal position is that income primarily belongs to the state first and to the citizen who earned it second. Conservative ideology would say income earned belongs to the person who earned it first, and the state second. liberal ideology desires equal outcomes, conservative ideology desires equal opportunity. liberal ideology says certain lives matter more than others. Conservative ideology says all lives matter equally. liberal ideology tends to recognize mankind as the ultimate authority. Conservative ideology tends to recognize the role of a creator. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by Paraquat on 10/05/16 at 06:00:51 7E5D6043415A5D54330 wrote:
Regardless of the game, the house always wins. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/05/16 at 07:10:01 4D7F78696E7F68577B68711A0 wrote:
I like your list, can you show me legislation implemented, and results, where they clashed? |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/16 at 07:40:38 If he doesn't, does that mean what he said is wrong? |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/05/16 at 08:23:08 485751564B4C7D4D7D45575B10220 wrote:
Relax huggyboy, I am a learning here, and I ain't to proud to ask for help :-* |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by WebsterMark on 10/05/16 at 13:20:07 Read my St. Louis Post-Dispatch for one week... hell, one day, and you'll get your answer. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by WebsterMark on 10/05/16 at 13:50:10 10031B06031505620 wrote:
1)Each party's tax policy is an easy one for income, liberals want more of everyone's money. 2)Liberal school policy, labor laws covers equal outcome vs equal opportunity. 3)Abortion laws cover certain lives matter more than others. 4) The hostility of liberal opposition to religious institutions refusing to pay for abortions takes care of the last. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/05/16 at 15:06:58 615354454253447B57445D360 wrote:
1)Each party's tax policy is an easy one for income, liberals want more of everyone's money. 2)Liberal school policy, labor laws covers equal outcome vs equal opportunity. 3)Abortion laws cover certain lives matter more than others. 4) The hostility of liberal opposition to religious institutions refusing to pay for abortions takes care of the last. [/quote] Thanks Web, but again, these are more talking points when offered like this. I was hoping one of you smart guys could pull a example where a piece of legislation was argued, and passed. What was the outcome of it after it became law. Did it deliver on its promise of the sponsor, or did the oppositions argument come to pass? Obamacare being an example. It was passed against the will of the people, and the people are looking to be right, as all the promises are not bearing out. Make sense? Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/16 at 15:26:41 Legislation proposed People say No, that sux Passes People are proven right Never gets repealed. Show a time when that didn't happen. What has D.C.done that the People wanted? What has D.C.done that the People didn't want? How did it work out? There are Reasons why the people don't trust D.C. The media, too. Rockefeller THANKED the media for Not telling what they heard at the Bilderberg meetings. But, you can pretend that is meaningless. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/05/16 at 15:51:22 584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
Nothing is meaningless, if someone finds value in it.... So please, rise above Lost Artist's, M.O. And too Jog, things evolve, times change, I am not assigning a value to that, just trying to point out, what was, does not assure, it is now.... Too many variables to be able to say with certainty the outcome, the further away its removed, it becomes a paradox |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by LostArtist on 10/05/16 at 17:25:19 :-/ 7C6F776A6F79690E0 wrote:
I would love to see some examples Bot, please. I would think the list must be long, for you to declare such a blanket statement. Thanks [/quote] to quote the great Saint Ronald Regan “Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” and it's been the republicans who use shutting down the government as a negotiating tactic (at least in recent memory, I'm sure the democrats have done it too) It's the conservatives that want to starve government by NEVER raising taxes for any reason every again Republicans run on reducing the size of government, your medicare, your ss, your unemployment, your food stamps, etc... Democrats are constantly fighting to increase benefits, to make life in general better, a more educated populace, a healthier populace, a fed populace (yeah I know in some city's democrats want food for the poor to be inspected like food for the rest of us, and that has shut down some outreach programs, and that does suck) Democrats want clean water, not pipelines, or lead in the water as in Flint, democrats want the EPA to actually have teeth, as opposed to allowing self regulated industries allow themselves to blow up in West, Texas, or allow them to leak benzeene above safe limits into the atmosphere for months at a time and that's just off the top of my head for now, and I'm kind tired[/quote] Those are talking points, can you give me examples. When they were applied, why, and how. What were the implications, what were the results. I have seen where the republicans have offered less, when doing the budget, but still spending more, and the democrats call it a cut. So, if you would like to give examples, as what I listed, that would help. [/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ dear lord man, would it kill you to do a bit of research yourself??? and I did offer EXAMPLES, Reagan, the patron saint of conservatism, saying that "... government is the problem." is an example of "Conservatives see government as the enemy..." Starving the beast is a conservative strategy :"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives in order to limit government spending[1][2][3] by cutting taxes in order to deprive the government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force the federal government to reduce spending." that's from the Wiki herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast and do I really need to list the many, many, many conservative republicans running on the idea of "Shrinking" the government?? you surely are not that ignorant to their OVERT campaigning and the constant drum beat from the conservative media (fox news and talk radio) They want to cut back regulations, regulations like those in Flint where the REPUBLICAN government forced them to change water sources and ignored the warning of lead contamination by the EPA https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/03/flint-water-crisis-congress-michigan-officials-ignored-epa-warnings-lead "The Environmental Protection Agency warned of an unfolding toxic water crisis in Flint but was “met with resistance” by Michigan authorities, a fiery congressional hearing into the city’s public health disaster has heard." and these were not the democrats elected, these were the REPUBLICAN appointed officials by the State of Michigan. so that's an example for ya. the results in Flint are THOUSANDS of poisoned children. another example is that in the Republican controlled state of Texas, the state has given the companies, like Marathon oil, and BP and etc.. the authority to regulate themselves for air emissions read here for more info: Industry Self-Regulation and Voluntary Environmental Compliance https://books.google.com/books?id=QJDMBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=texas+self+regulated+epa&source=bl&ots=POyHk90ttg&sig=drk4tfy7GIj5dcIKfo1vnze1vgk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjuz5T08MTPAhUL3IMKHS8VBr8Q6AEIWDAI#v=onepage&q=texas%20self%20regulated%20epa&f=false the results in Texas are disasters like the explosion in West, Texas, and benzene exposure as exampled here: http://www.businessinsider.com/benzene-emissions-lawsuit-bp-2010-8 "We represent more than 6000 individuals who were exposed to benzene. Bp averages between 200 to 400 releases yearly, but this one takes the cake. Enough is enough. If the regulatory authorities can't make bp conform to the emission laws, maybe a jury can." although I believe that case was later deemed much ado about nothing in the courts at least. still an example of conservatives allowing businesses to work in their own self interest, public be darned. republicans and conservatives time and time again, fight back to reverse, or just ignore laws that WE THE PEOPLE voted for. they are working against Government, and sometimes that's good, but sometimes, it leads to disasters, I don't think the republicans and conservatives really care. republicans also want to privatize SS. running against a governmental guaranteed program, gamble it all man!! https://theintercept.com/liveblogs/vpdebate/mike-pence-and-donald-trump-have-both-supported-privatizing-social-security/ |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by MnSpring on 10/05/16 at 18:14:43 7C5F4344714244594344300 wrote:
increase benefits, For who? People that have NEVER paid in? Like Illegal Immigrants, and ’so called’ Refugees? Or large blocks of, ‘poor’ people, so when they get the benefit, they VOTE, for the party that gave them the, ‘benefit’, (which they NEVER worked for)? Or, REDUCE, Benefits, for the people, that FOUGHT AND DIED, so you have the, FREEDOM, to post here? a more educated populace, Would examples be, the 20 +/- year old, who worked for the Fed Government, did NOT know what a GPS is. Would that be a Sophomore in Collage, who had NO Idea their us a USA, Constitution, Bill of rights, or Amendments? Would that be H.S. students, still Texting and Driving? Would that be, H.S. Students, working for a fast food place, that do NOT, know how to make change? Would that be a collage, where only ONE, POV is Allowed ? a healthier populace, Is that like, the, FORCED, H.C. Which the Premiums, have gone UP, and UP, and UP. So the people that don’t pay, get it FREE? And the, FREE, (WE PAY), HC for the Politicians? (Which is Better, than what, WE, have to PAY for?) a fed populace (yeah I know in some city's democrats want food for the poor to be inspected like food for the rest of us, and that has shut down some outreach programs, and that does suck) OH, and, (Because of a Democrat), a food shelf, cannot take something, which, the REST of us use EVERY day !!!! And, 90% Drive in, and take, SEVERAL, carts out, and load it into, “Much Newer”, Caddice’s, Lincoln’s, Suburban’s, Lexi’s, Big New, (import) SUV’s, (Even saw 2 Jaguars), Only 10%, were Beat up, Older, cars. (Spent a DAY, Watching. (A Shared Driveway, to a Auction I was checking out for) Democrats want clean water, not pipelines, And, ‘Clean’ water, can NOT, flow through a Pipe ????? or lead in the water as in Flint, That was NOT, Political. BUT, as YOU Mention that. Can you, ‘wonder’, How, that happened, for SO Long, under the, ‘wonderful’, democratic, control ????? democrats want the EPA to actually have teeth, And would that be, where the EPA, can KILL, a River, Filling it FULL, of Very Toxic wast. Killing, the Wildlife, and greatly inconveniencing the humans that used that water, for the next 30 YEARS +. And NOTHING is DONE !!!! But yet, when a farmer, Enlarges a little creek which ran through his property, making a pond, which only, BENEFITED, wild life & Domestic stock, YOUR, EPA, Fined him Millions, and Demanded he put it back ??? But, expect that, (Berni Sanders), talk. From someone who says, ALL the Money, ALL, the Workers, and Employers, were, FORCED, to pay into, are now, HIS !@ |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by raydawg on 10/05/16 at 18:15:36 Thanks for the attempt, but again, you is using opinion of the guardian website as fact, its not, its supposition. I am asking for direct legislation passed, by either side, that the opposition/losing party, was correct, in their arguments. Lets try the housing crisis, what led up to that, and why. A lot of folks.....WAY SMARTER THAN ME, and I am not talking about my wife's two minnie weenies, either :-[ Have said it was the cause and effect that brought us to the recession. Again, thanks for the effort, but lets stick to facts, like the congressional record, etc. not a website. For every left bend, a right bend exist, and neither will bend the other way, that bro is called stalemate, and really, useless, at getting to the facts. When an administration (any administration) has to "spin" the facts, we have already left exited, true facts.... This might help, I dunno :-/ supposition [suhp-uh-zish-uh n] Spell Syllables Examples Word Origin See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com noun 1. the act of supposing. 2. something that is supposed; assumption; hypothesis. Origin of supposition Expand late Middle English Latin 1400-14501400-50; late Middle English < Latin suppositi[ch333]n- (stem of suppositi[ch333]) substitution (E meaning by association with suppose ), equivalent to supposit (us) (past participle of supp[ch333]nere to substitute) + -i[ch333]n- -ion. See sup-, position Related forms Expand suppositional, adjective suppositionally, adverb nonsuppositional, adjective nonsuppositionally, adverb unsuppositional, adjective Dictionary.com Unabridged Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2016. Cite This Source Examples from the Web for supposition Expand Contemporary Examples Contamination must be proven with certainty not supposition. Italian Court Explains Why It Overturned Amanda Knox’s Acquittal Historical Examples It was only the supposition of Furness, and it is my conviction that they have not. The Poacher Frederick Marryat He seemed to yield to the justice of this supposition in spite of himself. A Christmas Carol Charles Dickens On any other supposition to the general reader it is unintelligible. Essays on Life, Art and Science Samuel Butler Her strange question seemed to be explained by this supposition. A Lieutenant at Eighteen Oliver Optic It will not do, I suppose, to admit such a supposition ; yet the marvels which come constantly before me may almost justify it. Adrift in the Arctic Ice Pack Elisha Kent Kane "It is pleasant to have your supposition confirmed," Deck ventured to remark. A Lieutenant at Eighteen Oliver Optic The supposition that she had died of spontaneous combustion was also entertained by a good many. Historic Oddities Sabine Baring-Gould On the supposition that the slaves of Besançon were aboard, my heart felt relieved. The Quadroon Mayne Reid It is based upon the supposition that your allegations would be supported by evidence. The Grafters Francis Lynde British Dictionary definitions for supposition Expand supposition /[ch716]s[ch652]p[ch601][ch712]z[ch618][ch643][ch601]n/ noun 1. the act of supposing 2. a fact, theory, etc, that is supposed Derived Forms suppositional, adjective suppositionally, adverb suppositionless, adjective Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 2012 Digital Edition © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2012 Cite This Source Word Origin and History for supposition Expand n. early 15c., a term in logic, from Late Latin suppositionem (nominative suppositio) "assumption, hypothesis," noun of action from past participle stem of supponere (see suppose ); influenced by Greek hypothesis. |
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Title: Re: Can you really be a liberal? Post by LostArtist on 10/05/16 at 19:08:16 20332B36332535520 wrote:
coming from someone who doesn't cite their sources AT ALL. you're being quite the hypocrite don't you think? I GAVE YOU DIRECT LEGISLATION PASSED THAT ALLOWS CHEMICAL COMPANIES IN TEXAS TO SELF REGULATE, sure I didn't give you statute number and parse it out for you, but appparently you really are too stubborn and stupid to do any research yourself, let me get MY SHOVEL AND SHOVEL IT DOWN YOUR THROAT YOU LAZY LECH. I'm giving examples to back up Serow's post, NOT WHATEVER YOUR WHIMZY from your current tinkle desires. I've done my part, sorry if you can't comprehend anything beyond what's handfed you. oh, and NOTICE I USED SEVERAL SOURCES, INSEVERAL DIFFERENT EXAMPLES NOT JUST THE GUARDIAN for that one example. Serow's point was that republican's and conservatives see the government as the enemy, I have given you at least 4 clear cut examples of that, and you just say, Oh, that's not good enough or me, how about this, or this or this, deflecting and NEGLECTING YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to attempt to actually understand what is being said. You could even ask a conservative, hey, how do you feel about the government, I bet they won't say, "ooooh I love the government, they are the bestestest thing that ever could be." you've tried my patience and you've won, have fun with yourself from now on cause it's quite apparent that it's quite useless talking to you. bye |
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