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Message started by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 07:45:04

Title: rotella
Post by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 07:45:04

I have recently switched from rotella t6 back to rotella triple protection dino and redline additive. Someone just told me switching from synthetic to conventional can cause an engine knock. Is this true?

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Serowbot on 10/02/16 at 08:12:44

Knock is related to spark pre-ignition, and fuel octane rating is upped for that... Our engine is low compression and has no problem with regular gas...
Oil has nuttin' to do with that...

Rotella dino is the shizzzzz... 8-)

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Dave on 10/02/16 at 08:24:17

You can switch back and forth between dino and synthetic without any issues......and you can even buy oils that are a mixture of both in the same bottle (synthetic blends).

And contrary too other folklore....you can even break in an engine using synthetic oil without issues. Some new cars even come with synthetic in the crankcase right from the factory.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 09:27:54

OMG. Thanks! Just what I needed to hear.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Serowbot on 10/02/16 at 09:29:19

We knew that... That's why we lied... ;D

Title: Re: rotella
Post by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 10:21:37

ha. ya got me.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Oldfeller on 10/02/16 at 11:41:01

Come to the Café with a Rubber Side Down type question, you can expect a little extra to go along with the serious answer ......

Heck, you can order a side order of silly cole slaw and get a free serving of ribbing to go with it.

;D ..... we aims to please !!!

Title: Re: rotella
Post by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 11:46:08

yeah, i guess i could have posted there , didn't occur to me. Thanks OF.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Tocsik on 10/02/16 at 11:49:39

Rotella is most definitely your friend.

And it's delicious with a nice vodka sauce and a glass of red wine.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 12:47:37

Does sound like pasta!

Title: Re: rotella
Post by pg on 10/02/16 at 14:30:47

I ride year round and in the warmer months I use dino and in the winter I use t6. So far so good [smiley=thumbup.gif].

Best regards,

Title: Re: rotella
Post by MMRanch on 10/02/16 at 18:52:01

After knowing about T-6 ... Why would you use anything else ? :-X

That's kinda like a country that only throws rocks going to war against another country that uses firearms ... ::) There just ain't no comparison .

Title: Re: rotella
Post by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 18:55:54

i switched back to dino because people said T6 could make your clutch slip.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by MMRanch on 10/02/16 at 19:12:03

I call BULL on T-6 and clutch slippage (stock motor).

I've got a brother who had a Honda V-65 with "BIG HP" who had a problem with clutch slippage

but a stock LS-650 is a hole-different animal

Title: Re: rotella
Post by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 19:27:51

Well i don't really know, just gleaned that info from one of the rotella threads a couple months ago.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by MMRanch on 10/02/16 at 19:36:58

I've got near 30,000 miles on mine using T-6 , and can still do Wheelies ! ;)

Title: Re: rotella
Post by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 19:42:02

I ran t6 for 5 years and my clutch was fine.. I don't want to start an oil war or anything, I don't know.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/16 at 19:48:19

70796A7572792D2E25251C0 wrote:

I ran t6 for 5 years and my clutch was fine.. I don't want to start an oil war or anything, I don't know.

We recently saw a guy talking about the 600 mile
Tune Up.
He has a Three Year Old Bike, and six hundred miles,
So, your Five Years and no clutch problems are really meaningless.
How many MILES did that trouble free clutch take you?
300? Or 30,000?
I have never seen a report by anyone that a Rotella oil caused any problem.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by rl153 on 10/02/16 at 20:17:56

I've only put 4k mi on my bike in the past 5 years. you got me there.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/03/16 at 04:32:25

I put 12,000 on a Savage one year. That was year round riding, and I don't see another winter of that kinda determination.
Heck, I don't leave the place enough to go 1,000 miles a month any more, counting all forms of transportation.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Dave on 10/03/16 at 04:43:46

6B796B79746768656E260 wrote:

I call BULL on T-6 and clutch slippage (stock motor).

It was Oldfeller that believed he was having clutch trouble from T-6, and he switched over to Rotella T. His motor isn't stock, and he does ride pretty hard. He thought the T-6 recently got an increase in the amount of Moly in the oil.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Oldfeller on 10/03/16 at 05:50:20

Hate to spoil a budding oil war with real facts, but I started experiencing the mild start up slip, that "on cold start up" slip, which is the symptom most people get when clutch slipping begins.

Changed to Rot Dino and the cold start slippage issue stopped, which is in line with what others have posted about contamination issues and using Rot Dino to clean it up.

Rot Dino has no moly oil in it, Rot Syn has 60+ PPM of moly oil in it now (and the amount seems to go up each new Sl SN type SAE formulation change).

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So, if you have no slippage truck on with T6 as it is the better formulation. If you get some cold start up slippage, switch over to Rot Dino and see if it stops. Do this before doing a clutch replacement exercise as it is in essence a free fix.

Abused clutches will likely show the issue before normal use clutches will show it.

;)

MM is jest fishin' fer a fat old cat fish, floating him a chunk of blueberry bagel to see if he'll bite ......

Title: Re: rotella
Post by MMRanch on 10/03/16 at 06:58:57

How-a-bout-that ! ::)

I found my old-favorite fa lay knife last week and was just sharpening it this morning ... 8-) Think I'll put it my bike trunk now before I loose it again . ;)

no oil wars going on here , me and T-6 are getting along just fine . ;D

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Oldfeller on 10/03/16 at 07:43:28

Oooooooo ..... no, no, please no, please put me back in the bucket .... get your fingers out of my eye sockets -- that HURTS

OUCH!!!! AIEEEE !!!! NOT MY FILLETS !!!

AAAAAAUGH < fish moans and croaks as MM slices away at him>

::)

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Oldfeller on 10/03/16 at 07:47:46

Considering retiring this early spring, might well be up for a bike ride off to somewhere new next year.

Not interested in anything beyond two lane roads though, I think you see a lot more on the two lane jobbies and the interstate just sucks on a long bike ride.

..... as the interstate goes ka-thump, ka-thump, ka-thump, ka-thump, ka-thump, ka-thump all the silly time, endlessly no less

Title: Re: rotella
Post by springman on 10/03/16 at 11:09:53

Congratulations Oldfeller. I wish you a very happy retirement. I am thinking another 7 years or so before I retire, but who knows. Best wishes to you my friend.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Oldfeller on 10/03/16 at 13:26:05

I'm not so sure about a "happy retirement" as it only takes me about 2 days at home to start looking something to do. But my health says TAKE IT NOW OR JEST KEEP ON AND DIE WITH IT SITTING OUT THERE IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Steve H on 10/03/16 at 15:17:48

OF...I say take it and enjoy as much as you can if that's the case. You'll get more money if you wait but what good will it be if you're not around to use it?

If you do get to go on a nice trip, take your time see the sights and enjoy every minute of it. If you happen to come through Spartanburg and I can get away, I'd love to buy you a cup of coffee or something. Sorry I've got no spare bed or camping space that I can offer.

Title: Re: rotella
Post by MMRanch on 10/03/16 at 16:55:18

Congratulations OldFeller !!! :) :) :) YeeeeHaaa , retirement is great ... if ya get stir--crazy you can always start a lawn-mowing business or something . A cash business is part of retirement ya know ! ;)

I do try to keep my knife sharp so the fish cleaning goes easy and quick on me and the fish ! ;D

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Oldfeller on 10/04/16 at 11:50:07

I am going to paint a house (mine) and if I like doing it, that might be my niche.

::)

so far I never have liked painting, so I don't think that is going to change much .....

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Dave on 10/04/16 at 12:01:21

54777F7D7E77777E691B0 wrote:

So far I never have liked painting, so I don't think that is going to change much .....[/size][/color]

Maybe you should consider this line of painting.......might make it more fun!

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/hss/5771310471.html

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Oldfeller on 10/04/16 at 15:36:28

<shudder> no wonder I hate painting

Title: Re: rotella
Post by Kris01 on 10/04/16 at 17:16:38

I'm scared to even call for the free estimate. :o