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Message started by MMRanch on 09/29/16 at 12:15:02

Title: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 09/29/16 at 12:15:02

Well ,

I just pulled the trigger on a "Real Gas Tank ",  

I'm sure there will be a few Mod's to make it fit ... if it don't I just blew 200 + $ .    So , if there is any way to make it work thats what going to happen !

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/paughco-custom-fatbob-gas-tank

250 mile range  ::)



I got the 22mm petcock and the cap to go with it.  

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by badwolf on 09/29/16 at 12:47:18

MM, That is even bigger than mine! Just checked mine, 18" wide & 23" long. Yours should be short enough to still use your current seat and not look as FAT as mine. I hope the tunnel is wide enough to clear the decomp and stuff for you. You will have to make a custom mount and cut off the posts for the rubber mounts. Measure twice, cut once. After the stock mounts are gone there is no going back.
Keep us posted here, and Good Luck!!!

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by Dave on 09/29/16 at 13:25:03

That is one narrow looking tunnel - especially for the area at the back where the frame "y"s.

So....is it easier to modify the tunnel on the tank - or to move the stuff on the frame and modify the "y"?

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by verslagen1 on 09/29/16 at 14:12:20

I used a hammer on my gt550 tank instead of the relief that dave welded in.
This tank will be different though.  I think the tunnel is welded in.
So to modify it, you'll need to cut and weld in new pieces.

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 09/29/16 at 17:31:08

In Put is good !  ;)

Yea , 19.5 inches long / 13 inches wide ,  its high off the frame back-bone -- but only 3/4 inch higher than the stock speedometer .   Total height is only 8 inches so that only 3.5 inches over the tunnel.  

The tunnel is only 4.5" deep --- 3/4 - 1 inch for clearance means the tank does not go to the decompression thingie (I think ?)   If it does make it to the Decompression thing then I can "" Modify ""  :P   .   I've got a welder and am very well versed with it.  ;)   Got Brazing equipment too.   My first thought was to mount "slide-on mounts like the factory tank has.  ::).

It should be here in a week or so ???

I'm more concerned about the dash lights .   I ordered a new speedometer with : 1 green , 1 blue , 2 yellow ,2 black , 1 red  wires , and three lights : green , blue , yellow.
Only thing is ---
Its in Kmh , I use the Garmin anyway with gps speedometer , and know 100 Kmh = 60 mph ish ,  125 = 75 ish ,  50 Kmh = 30 mph ish , 25 Kmh = 15 mph , etc .
But I use the Neutral indicator , and the turn signal , and the bright indicator  .

So can anybody tell me what speedometer cable to order ?  :-?

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by Kris01 on 09/29/16 at 17:49:19

Sorry, can't help with the cable.

Can you take the face off the speedo and renumber it so that it reflects mph instead of kph?

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 09/29/16 at 18:04:53

It doesn't bother me that its in Kph .   Its a very quick calculation based on 100 Kph = 60 mph   or  multiply by (.6) .  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141361215646?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by Ruttly on 09/29/16 at 18:23:43

Ryca's speedo cable might work !

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/16 at 18:58:59

Does not include gas cap or petcock. Fit and pressure test all tanks prior to body work and paint.


Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 09/29/16 at 23:21:24

thanks for the tip on pressure testing JOG .    I hadn't thought of that .   I did get the petcock (22mm) and a gas cap when I ordered the tank.  


Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/16 at 23:38:27

That's a C and P from the website you bought it from..

You do know not to use much pressure on the test..

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 09/30/16 at 07:26:22

I would guess :
enter air through the petcock in the  (30-40 psi) range .  :-?

you think that's too much ?

with a small piece of heavy plastic under the gas cap - I did order a VENTED gas cap.


Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by verslagen1 on 09/30/16 at 07:41:19


5C4E5C4E43505F5259110 wrote:
I would guess :
enter air through the petcock in the  (30-40 psi) range .  :-?

you think that's too much ?

with a small piece of heavy plastic under the gas cap - I did order a VENTED gas cap.

I would go with 10 - 15 psi you don't want to test the welds, just check for leaks.
You might be able to use a radiator type pressure tester.
Or I'd just take a piece of rubber tube put a plate with a fitting on it.
You need to test the petcock seal as well.

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 09/30/16 at 08:07:26

Versey

What was that speedometer cable you used on your ?

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by verslagen1 on 09/30/16 at 09:06:45


130113010C1F101D165E0 wrote:
Versey

What was that speedometer cable you used on your ?

Still using the stock tank.

There is a cable... lemmelook...


1224253E230A2F2238224B0 wrote:
mid eighties model Suzuki GT750 tach cable is a direct swap for our speedo cable, just a couple to three inches longer which is perfect for speedo relocate.


There you go (note to self, get one)

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by Todd James on 09/30/16 at 22:55:56

 
If you pressure test the tank while it is empty please be very careful to
regulate the test pressure.

An empty tank is a compressed air reservoir and any structural failure
could result in explosive decompression. That fuel tank is not designed as
a pressure vessel and it could fail or distort at a surprisingly low pressure.

A test pressure of 2 or 3 PSI will reveal any leaks that gasoline could escape from.

The safest way to pressure test a vessel is to fill it completely full of liquid, supply pressure
with a small volume hand pump, and apply only the minimum necessary proof pressure.

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 10/01/16 at 06:43:04

Todd

That makes sense .  8-)

I'll hook the bicycle pump to the petcock in the off position with a long enough hose to get the pump above the tank , fill the tank with water , put a thick sheet of plastic over the fill hole , add the cap and watch for leaks ... if there ain't none , Then I'll add a little pressure .    
If the water stays in I'll paint it !  ;)

Unless some-one has a better idea ?  :-?

All this help is good !  ;)


Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by Dave on 10/01/16 at 06:59:11

I wouldn't fill the tank with water.....it is just asking to get the rusting process started.

Air works fine - just don't use more than a couple of pounds.  Then use some soapy water from a spray bottle on the outside of the tank to look for leaks - you really just need to check the weld seams.

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 10/01/16 at 19:27:22

What would I do without you fellers ?

Just like checking for leaks after the 500 lbs LP tank gets filled .  

:)

I might have to add some mount to the tank to make it fit ??   I should know in a week or so ...  :)




Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 10/05/16 at 20:11:05

So the Tank came yesterday but guess what  ?

Looks like someone had it before they sent it to me .   Also looks like that same some one modified it a little before they sent it back ...

:-?

I already contacted  " revzilla "  , they are willing to send me their only other one in stock .   It might take a while to straighten this out !  :(

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by badwolf on 10/05/16 at 21:10:17

Looking at the tank from the bottom, there is no place for the fuel to crossover from one side to the other. You could run ''dry'' with 2'' of fuel in the other side from the valve. You might need a valve on both sides.
Some people build bike stuff that looks cool, without thinking it thru about how it will work in the big picture when you actually ride it.
A old friend in NY rebuilt his Harley last year, he was a show judge for 16 years ( Rats Hole, Sturgus, Laconia) and it is a work of art! People look at it and drool. But he will never ride it 1,000 miles in 5 years!!! He looked at my bike and sneered, but I know I often ride farther in one day than he does in a year!!
I think a lot of the bobbers are in the same class, look cool, BUT, how far will they be ridden? Hard tails, no front fender, rear fender cut off 2'' behind a thin little seat, they can LOOK good and make a statement, but it will never be ''I ride 500 miles a day!''
I'm not dishing on anyone, or their style or type of bike or riding. To each his own, just be honest to one's self about it.

Re-reading this I may have stirred a hornets nest, I'm not trying to cut anyone down, everyone rides differently. BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO RIDE!

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by WD on 10/06/16 at 20:58:10

Get your money back. That is a stock set up. Have had an FXR 4.75 for almost 20 years. Will not fit in any way shape or form w/o full tunnel replacement AND a round backbone 8" longer than stock. The frame Y needs to go away.

Title: Re: Paughco 4.75 Gal.
Post by MMRanch on 10/06/16 at 21:37:38

I have always suspected I'll have to make a rear mount and braise  it on .   I'll have the tank off in the next week or two and have a look at it.   I see I'll have to do something about the (lack of) cross-over-pipe too.  The pedcock side could run out of fuel and the other side have a half gallon in it !  

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