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Title: ONE truth revealed re: debate Post by raydawg on 09/27/16 at 03:56:43 Our tax system is set up in a manner that rewards you for trying to NOT pay taxes.... As in avoiding them. These two were perfect examples of that system. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by oldNslow on 09/27/16 at 06:13:11 Quote:
Nothing wrong with that. Sending money to those dipsh*ts in DC just encourages them to waste it on foolishness or steal it for themselves. Use the rules to keep as much of your own money as you can. :) |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by verslagen1 on 09/27/16 at 07:16:32 They put those loopholes in the tax code for themselves... no one else should be using them. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by Serowbot on 09/27/16 at 07:39:32 What billionaires don't pay, falls to you... The bills still come in. They've had trillions in tax cuts,...we have trillions of debt... their incomes have grown while everyone else's stagnated... The gap grows daily... They get huge breaks, you don't... (if this helps jobs, where are they? China?)... We are growing service jobs, not so much manufacturing... Who do we serve?... the "Donalds"... Do you want a servitude economy?... Feed the rich... Do the maths... |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by verslagen1 on 09/27/16 at 07:53:10 The rich get taxed at a higher rate. They own a corporation, which is taxed. The smart ones make a small salary and live off the corporate teet. If they die and pass on their property to their heir, a large portion goes to the state. and you wonder why chelsea makes $900M a year. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by pg on 09/27/16 at 13:00:06 72617677686563616A35040 wrote:
What does she do for a living, I'm guessing just on the BOD on the Clinton foundation. Which amounts to a free pay check.... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/27/16 at 13:31:38 Yes, the clintons are setting themselves under the same schemes. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by LostArtist on 09/27/16 at 14:42:27 da Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/chelsea-clinton-made-900000-working-for-her-parents/ not $900,000,000 a year, $900M right? or did you actually mean K, still wrong btw |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by Serowbot on 09/27/16 at 15:23:13 Trump's kids are all self made,.. just like Trump... They just all happen to work for daddy... :-? |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by verslagen1 on 09/27/16 at 15:31:25 0B2834330635332E3433470 wrote:
That's the roman M that's normally used by the press instead of the metric "k" (notice little k) for a 1000. Quote:
Still, $600,000 for history, advanced hand washing and how many places your dad didn't have sexual relations is 20x what I made out collage with a BS. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by Serowbot on 09/27/16 at 15:41:05 Ivanka's worth $150,000,000... don't know about the other kiddies, but they're doin' okay... Born to money makes you rich... not necessarily smart, but rich... Money ain't blue or red,... it's green... I think that's more along Dawg's point... |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/27/16 at 15:54:46 ARF, arf....... ;D |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by MnSpring on 09/27/16 at 17:01:12 1734282F1A292F32282F5B0 wrote:
Yep, 'Snoops'. Soooo, reliable, and Never any lopsidedness, Na Never. Still, $600,000.00, a year. Just out of collage. 50,000.00 a month, (More than Many people make in a year). $1,666.00, a DAY. $208.00 a HOUR. Raise your hand, if YOU, make $208.00 a HOUR ! $208.00 a HOUR, Just out of Collage. Gee, wonder what her Student loans were? OK, so she is a, semi famous person, so she gets the big bucks. For just being a 'figurehead'. That's the way it is. So then WHY, do the the Ultra Left, make a big deal, out of the Trump, kids, Who are, WORKING, and making money. ??? Gee, what is the saying about, "glass houses". |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by WebsterMark on 09/27/16 at 17:50:46 I've never worked for a poor guy. Worked for plenty of rich guys however. The only poor guy you can work for is the government, they're bankrupt. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by LostArtist on 09/28/16 at 07:05:11 0A383F2E29382F103C2F365D0 wrote:
who buys your company's product? |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by WebsterMark on 09/28/16 at 12:24:21 manufacturing facilities. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by LostArtist on 09/28/16 at 13:25:17 350700111607102F031009620 wrote:
do they only make high end products that sell to rich people? you might only have rich customers, that does happen, but a lot of major market driving corporations depend on selling to middle class and poor people. so yeah, the people that hire you might be rich, but they depend on us poor folk to buy their products. there are always exceptions though |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by MnSpring on 09/28/16 at 16:43:58 496A76714477716C7671050 wrote:
OK, Then TAX the RICH !!!! I make a widget, sell it for .80 to a mart-mart. The mart mart, sells it to you for 1.20. (Now BILLERY Declares both, ‘rich’, and charge each .05 cents more, in TAX.) Now the Maker sells that item for 85 cents, and the mart mart sells it to you for 1.30 Tell me, WHO, Pays the Tax ??????????? |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by WebsterMark on 09/28/16 at 19:25:43 I think you missed my point. Rich people hire people. Hilary' made a ridiculous statement that trickle down doesn't work. Of course it does and all of us are examples of that. In fact, she is too because if it weren't for people richer than her, who else is going to pay her $250,000 to talk for 20 minutes? Stop bashing rich people and start bashing capable people who live of the government. While you're at it, stop thinking the rich don't pay their fair share, that's another ridiculous statement. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by Serowbot on 09/28/16 at 22:10:46 If you give a rich guy, or a business, an extra million dollars,... they don't automatically say,.. "I'm gonna' hire 20 more people!"... They say, "Bingo!... Score!"... If you give them a million dollars in extra sales,.. they say..."We need more production,.. let's hire more staff"... Trickle down had it backwards... it's trickle up... More sales equals more demand,.. equals more need for more workers, to make more stuff... The rich don't hire for fun,.. they hire for profit... |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by WebsterMark on 09/29/16 at 03:45:15 you're making the assumption that proceeds from taxing the rich will have an impact. nonsense because if it did, we wouldn't be in the spot we're in right now. uncle sam will waste an enormous percentage of whatever additional that take. taking money out of a rich guy's pocket is just as likely to cause him to adjust in ways other than increasing production such as moving to mexico like Ford and Carrier just did or cutting back on staff or hiring clever lawyers to get out of taxes like trump did, like mark cuban did etc...like Bill and hilary will. you think Hilary's really going to pay 35% of her income to uncle sam?! really? stop thinking the rich dont pay their share, they pay well beyond their share. start hinking about spending. and yes, trickle down works. always have. again, tell me the poor guys you've worked for in the past. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/29/16 at 08:10:00 Why not just simplify the whole matter? Just like our two party system locks out any real change, so does the tax system. Both need to go, in total. I back a consumption tax. Straight across the board, service and product You wanna get a lewinsky, you get taxed on the condom and the lips ;D All governing entities can attach local taxes upon the state and federal tax. By doing such, it will make the local government more efficient if they expect people to live there. Instead of exempting poor folk, a system of support would be set up under a different department that can more readily check in need. This tax would be collected by all within its border, here legally or illegally. By doing this then illegals are entitled to "current" benefits. No deductions of any kind, period !!!! It's not perfect, but it's a start..... |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/16 at 08:29:39 Really, America grew, people prospered,no income tax. Consumption tax? Yeah, on luxury cars, boats, houses over X square feet, but if someone is just getting by, and they pay consumption tax, they have no savings plan, and pay tax on every dollar they earn, because they Spend every dollar they earn, just to survive. But the guy making five million a year? No, he can bank four, A consumption tax is a point blank shotgun blast to the poor. Unless you're willing to modify the way it works. So, If you're for a consumption tax, explain away. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by Serowbot on 09/29/16 at 09:00:15 2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 wrote:
+1... I would prefer a graduated flat tax... On income, capital gains, and interest... First $25,000 0% Next $25,000 10% Next $50,000 20% Next $150,000 30% over $250,000 40%... Numbers to be adjusted to cover cost and payment of deficit...until we're out of debt...with a goal of being debt free in 25 years... |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by verslagen1 on 09/29/16 at 10:08:34 Sales tax, food not included, all vices taxed to support the locality. Fed income graduated flat tax. No tax on gifts/inheritance. balanced budget mandate all wages of congress (ie health care, retirement, wages) voted on by the people, no self promotion. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/29/16 at 10:15:16 I think you guys missed the part about having the poor helped via a different avenue. Also, part of what you consume is CONSUMED, that is NOT 100 % tax. You think poor should get free cigs and beer? And you guys fail to see how a tax gathered like this will be collected from visitors, just like our current sales tax, but at a greater number. Funny Jog, maybe we can just print more notes to cover everyone in retirement, eh? A tiered flat tax is better than what we have now, but fails to gather the most resources available, and will still leave shelters and dishonesty in declaring income. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by verslagen1 on 09/29/16 at 10:24:39 5E4D55484D5B4B2C0 wrote:
Do you eat money? |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by LostArtist on 09/29/16 at 13:52:07 647760617E7375777C23120 wrote:
Do you eat money?[/quote] if you spend it on food you do |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by LostArtist on 09/29/16 at 14:00:22 586A6D7C7B6A7D426E7D640F0 wrote:
who is making that assumption??? I don't see that anywhere. notice that Serow didn't say anything about taxing the rich more, but instead focused on HOW JOBS ARE ACTUALLY MADE vs your fantasy about how you think it works. Well, when GM, United Continental, etc... actually GET tax rebates instead of paying ANYTHING in taxes.... somebody isn't paying some kinda share.... 27 giant profitable companies paid no taxes "There are 27 companies in the Standard & Poor's 500, including telecom firm Level 3 Communications (LVLT), airline United Continental (UAL) and automaker General Motors (GM), that reported paying no income tax expense in 2015 despite reporting pre-tax profits, according to a USA TODAY analysis of data from S&P Global Market Intelligence. Only profitable firms were included in the analysis since firms that lost money - like many energy companies - wouldn't be expected to pay taxes." http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/03/07/27-giant-profitable-companies-paid-no-taxes/81399094/ |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/29/16 at 15:46:05 Big corporations are akin to working welfare. The trade-off of giving the corporations tax breaks, etc, is that the government gets the money back in payroll/withholding, type taxes. Like a used car, it gets taxed at the original sell, then also each time it sells, PLUS, the jobs it provides in repairing/maintence, and those folks then spend their earnings on services and goods, etc..... One welfare recipient, who stays home, receiving support, only spends the money, and gets no self-worth from their lifestyle. The other, creates a lot more opportunity, and yes, that includes the brass at the top too. Which place, does out collected taxes pay for the best return on investment? PS: yes, its an over-simplification, and does not take all things into account, however, the premise is still sound. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by MnSpring on 09/29/16 at 18:56:46 7D6B7C61796C617A0E0 wrote:
I agree, a, 'FLAT" Tax. BUT - (SAME % for ALL) But that will NEVER Happen. 100's of thousand, IRS Agents, now out of work. 100's of thousands, of (H&R Block type) CPA's, out of work. 100's of thousands, of, 'Tax' Specialists, out of work. If a, 'Adjusted % Tax', then the 0%, would be doing ALL the, 'fudging'. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/16 at 20:05:25 3D2B3C21392C213A4E0 wrote:
+1... I would prefer a graduated flat tax... On income, capital gains, and interest... First $25,000 0% Next $25,000 10% Next $50,000 20% Next $150,000 30% over $250,000 40%... Numbers to be adjusted to cover cost and payment of deficit...until we're out of debt...with a goal of being debt free in 25 years...[/quote] Would someone who has a printer print out the first part of Bots post and mail it to me? Just get it down to the +1 I have a spot on the wall where that would fit Perfikk. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by LostArtist on 09/30/16 at 08:23:20 2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:
+1... I would prefer a graduated flat tax... On income, capital gains, and interest... First $25,000 0% Next $25,000 10% Next $50,000 20% Next $150,000 30% over $250,000 40%... Numbers to be adjusted to cover cost and payment of deficit...until we're out of debt...with a goal of being debt free in 25 years...[/quote] Would someone who has a printer print out the first part of Bots post and mail it to me? Just get it down to the +1 I have a spot on the wall where that would fit Perfikk. [/quote] holy crap, here's a concept all 3 of us agree on :D |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/30/16 at 09:50:47 You guys are dinasours.......: The sky is falling, eh chicken little? The poor pay taxes now on consumption, and have not died, yet. More taxes will be collected accordingly and fairly, which will then fund other programs to assist those who NEED IT, not to fund and promote a sustained lifestyle..... But hey, keep thinking in the box. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/16 at 13:26:52 Maybe you guys could take a moment and sit back and think about that. Maybe I'm not just ate up with the narrative that the right pushes. MAYBE I really Do care about people and Maybe I don't support any agenda so much as I want what is right for the People. Yeah, we disagree on the Path to making life better for the masses. I really HAVE studied. A corporate income tax is paid for by every customer. Increasing costs to the consumer. The employees and consumers are who pay ALL the taxes, except for the taxes on profits made passively. There are a few percentage points to split hairs over, but without a doctoral thesis, that is generally true. The CEO didn't do the work and buy the product that earned the millions he pays tax on Corruption, cheating, well, been going on and with the moral and legal issues, will continue, but if America wants jobs, America MUST compete with other countries to create a more business friendly environment. We HAD JOBS, WHY did the companies move or close? Answer THOSE questions, and change the policies that caused it. I say it was better before the trade agreements. Play party politics, pretend YOUR side is better. Why didn't your side repeal it? Both alleged Sides have been in power. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/16 at 13:32:38 51425A47425444230 wrote:
I EXPLAINED why. You EXPLAIN why. Not just, they are paying taxes now. Actually, most aren't paying nearly what they would if your idea was adopted. Just because it's obvious that your idea stinks doesn't mean I don't want to see change. Painting an anvil orange and stenciling Life Preserver On it is Thinking outside the box But, it's not gonna save anyone. You either explain WHY what I said is wrong or admit you can't. You claim, against all reason ore taxes will be collected accordingly and fairly, But you don't see that the people making millions will BANK MILLIONS, and only pay tax on what they spend, while the POOR spend ALL OF THEIR EARNINGS, just to live? Explain why I am wrong. Don't just declare it, no babies and bathwater crap, Explain. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by Serowbot on 09/30/16 at 14:41:22 2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:
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JOG and Dawg are liberals...JOG and Dawg are liberals... Naa na na na naa... ;D... I do think most of us want basically the same things.. and that's fair treatment, freedom, compassion, and a decent place to live in peace... nice roads, good neighbours, and less sh!t in our lives... Let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya and fix my leaky roof... (or at least the roof part)... :-/ |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/30/16 at 16:49:29 5046514C54414C57230 wrote:
6E7177706D6A5B6B5B63717D36040 wrote:
JOG and Dawg are liberals...JOG and Dawg are liberals... Naa na na na naa... ;D... I do think most of us want basically the same things.. and that's fair treatment, freedom, compassion, and a decent place to live in peace... nice roads, good neighbours, and less sh!t in our lives... Let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya and fix my leaky roof... (or at least the roof part)... :-/ [/quote] I am NOT a liberal.... I am a socialist. ;D I was for Bernie, before he was for Hillary. I am glad he sold out now, and showed he really is a capitalist, like Hillary. Before I vested any more faith in him. However, I still believe our repair lies in schooling, and banking/tax codes/collection. And affordable healthcare ( which I tie in with schooling ). Whats with the universities that eat up mega bucks to showcase their campuses.... How does that make anyone smarter? Why can't we use vacant strip malls, etc? I believe society should decide on its own social issues, and not the government, that will NEVER work, hate crime being a perfect example... ALL CRIME against another person involves some form of hate. The more heinous, the greater the sentencing.... Stop with the semantics, its hard enough to reach a consensus without playing word games too! See, I am all for more socialistic programs, with smaller government intervention, and footprint :o I think I will create a new term, to describe folk with like mind. Crazinessism ;D |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by pg on 09/30/16 at 16:57:31 33203825203626410 wrote:
He sure did sell out! Did you know he just bough a 3rd home for $600K? Just another "do what I say, not what I do" liberal hypocrite. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/30/16 at 17:15:10 2A3D3B3738285A0 wrote:
He sure did sell out! Did you know he just bough a 3rd home for $600K? Just another "do what I say, not what I do" liberal hypocrite. Best regards, [/quote] Yes, I know. He got a GREAT deal on it. He bought it from Trump, who bought it in foreclosure from Ma & Pa Kettle. Its not fair, I know. The neighbors, the Waltons, especially John Boy, as a famous writer, should have helped them out in tough times, but he thought they would take advantage of Obama's buy out ZERO interest loans, but Nnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooo. They didn't want to appear needy. It would be like voting democrat, ARG. Face it buddy, the limpdick republicans can't fight out of a paper bag. Folks have given them a chance, senate and house majority, and one Whitehouse butler (yeah, ain't I racist) stops them cold in their tracks....like a deer in the headlights! Ya know, if they believed in themselves, others might too. But ya gotta take a stand if you believe its the truth. Take your punches. If you get knocked down, get back up. Learn from it. Next time look for the hook, and counter with a jab..... But then again.... Lord, we are in for a spell. Might as well get use to Hillary. Also, you might get surprised. Her plate will be so full she won't have the luxury of eating off just one side of it, no.... And who better to know what not to eat, that which is on the left side of the plate, than the person who cooked, and served it? ;D |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by LostArtist on 09/30/16 at 17:22:57 4651575B5444360 wrote:
He sure did sell out! Did you know he just bough a 3rd home for $600K? Just another "do what I say, not what I do" liberal hypocrite. Best regards, [/quote] where did he ever say not to buy expensive houses, or well, anything for that matter? |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by LostArtist on 09/30/16 at 17:26:35 7B68706D687E6E090 wrote:
6E7177706D6A5B6B5B63717D36040 wrote:
JOG and Dawg are liberals...JOG and Dawg are liberals... Naa na na na naa... ;D... I do think most of us want basically the same things.. and that's fair treatment, freedom, compassion, and a decent place to live in peace... nice roads, good neighbours, and less sh!t in our lives... Let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya and fix my leaky roof... (or at least the roof part)... :-/ [/quote] I am NOT a liberal.... I am a socialist. ;D I was for Bernie, before he was for Hillary. I am glad he sold out now, and showed he really is a capitalist, like Hillary. Before I vested any more faith in him. However, I still believe our repair lies in schooling, and banking/tax codes/collection. And affordable healthcare ( which I tie in with schooling ). Whats with the universities that eat up mega bucks to showcase their campuses.... How does that make anyone smarter? Why can't we use vacant strip malls, etc? I believe society should decide on its own social issues, and not the government, that will NEVER work, hate crime being a perfect example... ALL CRIME against another person involves some form of hate. The more heinous, the greater the sentencing.... Stop with the semantics, its hard enough to reach a consensus without playing word games too! See, I am all for more socialistic programs, with smaller government intervention, and footprint :o I think I will create a new term, to describe folk with like mind. Crazinessism ;D [/quote] the government, is society, what else would you call "We the people..." "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from..." ???? at least it's supposed to be, but I agree, recently, the government has only been for RICH people |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/16 at 17:29:22 Did I miss the defense and explanation WHY a consumption tax isn't going to hurt the poor? And how would America not see net decreases in tax collections? If I make five million and spend one million, the four I banked/invested, is untaxed. Ray, stop running in circles and Explain WHY you are right Or admit that idea won't work. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/30/16 at 17:41:55 0A2935320734322F3532460 wrote:
6E7177706D6A5B6B5B63717D36040 wrote:
JOG and Dawg are liberals...JOG and Dawg are liberals... Naa na na na naa... ;D... I do think most of us want basically the same things.. and that's fair treatment, freedom, compassion, and a decent place to live in peace... nice roads, good neighbours, and less sh!t in our lives... Let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya and fix my leaky roof... (or at least the roof part)... :-/ [/quote] I am NOT a liberal.... I am a socialist. ;D I was for Bernie, before he was for Hillary. I am glad he sold out now, and showed he really is a capitalist, like Hillary. Before I vested any more faith in him. However, I still believe our repair lies in schooling, and banking/tax codes/collection. And affordable healthcare ( which I tie in with schooling ). Whats with the universities that eat up mega bucks to showcase their campuses.... How does that make anyone smarter? Why can't we use vacant strip malls, etc? I believe society should decide on its own social issues, and not the government, that will NEVER work, hate crime being a perfect example... ALL CRIME against another person involves some form of hate. The more heinous, the greater the sentencing.... Stop with the semantics, its hard enough to reach a consensus without playing word games too! See, I am all for more socialistic programs, with smaller government intervention, and footprint :o I think I will create a new term, to describe folk with like mind. Crazinessism ;D [/quote] the government, is society, what else would you call "We the people..." "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from..." ???? at least it's supposed to be, but I agree, recently, the government has only been for RICH people[/quote] Please, don't test your ignorance out on me..... It ceases when an elected official used the judicial to enact HIS own will or belief. Class dismissed.... BTW, you want direction to show you where to put your apple ;D |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/30/16 at 18:36:11 56494F4855526353635B49450E3C0 wrote:
WHOA pudding, who said I was right? I put out an idea, but hey, thanks for your vote of confidence. I think I'll cut that part out and paste it to my wall ;D BTW, yes, what you bank, is not taxed, only consuming. And what we have now Huston, ain't working, so lets try finding a solution instead of nay-saying amigo ( better learnt Spanish too ) ;D |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/16 at 19:09:43 Admit it. Just because it's Not what hasn't worked is no reason to expect that Great Different approach to be better. I explained WHY your idea is lousy. You came back with Dinosaurs Unable to think Outside the box But you have nothing to defend your position with And you refuse to agree with Why you were wrong. Either explain Why I am wrong or admit I'm not a dinosaur unable to think outside the box. Your idea is worse than what doesn't work. Actually, it's not even your idea. It's been around for a long time. It was a bad from day one. You're a parrot, spouting what others have said, Not thinking Box or no box. |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by raydawg on 09/30/16 at 19:59:59 Your idea is worse than what doesn't work. Are you Forrest Gump? |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/16 at 20:06:58 I'll take that as you admitting you have ZERO, |
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Title: Re: ONE truth revealed debate Post by pg on 10/01/16 at 02:47:34 1D3E2225102325382225510 wrote:
His campaign was founded on far left (marxist) principles such as income inequality, wealth inequality, free tuition for all, so on so fourth. https://berniesanders.com/issues/ Someone is going to have to pay for it and the only way to do that is to increase taxes. He is a proponent of taking money I earned to subsidize other peoples lifestyles. He is going to to enjoy 3 houses, a pension, free health care of which is exempt from Barry Care, on our dime. Henceforth he is the liberal hypocrite; incidentally, I always thought the coney island accent was bull $hit as well. Best regards, |
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