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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> She needs to win, BIG....... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1474810930 Message started by raydawg on 09/25/16 at 06:42:09 |
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Title: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by raydawg on 09/25/16 at 06:42:09 I think the fix is in. Wassermann can bring chad from Florida, with her, but it won't matter, as Putin has the server dialed in and can undo any lies she inserts in the results..... I think its obvious she is the one being heavily scrutinized, and that is by the swing middle voters, and even many in her own party. She has to convince those folks, and in a big way, that they (will) just shut off the rest of the campaigning crap, hunker down, and show up come November, and cast for her. I am not talking about convincing the anti-Trump voters, those might be beyond reach, in any great number. I think these votes, might just set out, disgusted, I am almost there. She panders to them, she rallies the rabid Trumper voters, even more, like a 2 for 1. It shows her true meanness, and reveals her own hypocrisy, as she attacks him, with what she herself is guilty of..... She will have to talk solutions, policies, and perhaps own her mistakes, with humility. Body english will be heavily interpreted, if she looks uncomfortable, she'll get graded accordingly. If she falls, faints, or looks lost, she's toast, and Joe will be enlisted (I pray so). I have never seen her exhibit (that), in a genuine fashion, and is substantiated by her poor trust and likability scores. Trump only needs to be Trump, whoever in the hell that is...... :o None of the professional political wizards have called him correctly yet. If anything, they have burden Hillary with their obvious bias, and dislike for the man, giving witness to the point people are sick and tired of the broken system, and stymied dialogue under the PC umbrella. Which will push the 20% swing his way, as by nature they don't drink Kool-Aid to party demagoguery, aligning with the anti-established voters, that Trump is gathering by "default". She screws up, I think it will take an act of god to get her elected, people just seem to be very detached about her. I have seen a grand total of 1, like in ONE......Bumper sticker endorsing her in this very rich liberal voting grounds of greater Seattle. That is as rare as going a full month with no rain :o It will be interesting to see what happens. If you have to study a lot, to be who you think people want you to be, it will be hard to pull off. If you ain't comfortable in your own skin, shed it, and become who you want to be. If its sincere, genuine, it will set an atmosphere where true dialogue can happen, maybe even resulting in some solutions..... |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by raydawg on 09/25/16 at 07:52:16 Just saw where CNN is saying the debates really don't matter. That the results were set in the spring..... Is this reporting or wishing? How good is their record of being right, er, I mean left ;D |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/25/16 at 08:14:55 Ray, remember, they LIE. Understand Predictive Programming. Early on every Poll had Hillary winning nicely. The public, people here, prevailing attitudes, didn't match the polls. The polls were lies, preparing the minds of the people to accept her winning. Finally, the polls started admitting closer to reality. Her events are not excitedly attended. Trumps events are filled up, people can't get in. They bring partitions in to Create the Optics ( read Illusion ) that the place is not almost empty. It's not working this time. So, now they are trying to get people to believe that THIS election, unlike ANY OTHER election, is already decided. And the debates are not important. Yeah, she's gonna need to win big. And I would like to see both of them hafta pee in a cup afterwards. I hope John Q. Public sets up exit polling stations come November. Americans need to be watching over our election,. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by Serowbot on 09/25/16 at 08:27:45 I do think it's in the media's, pollsters, parties, and candidates interest, to make races look close as elections approach... Photo finishes help ratings and turn-outs... ...but, I don't see the pressure on Hillary... She, being the traditional candidate, is a fairly predictable speaker. We know more or less what she will say... Trump, being Trump,... could be anywhere... He could hit a home run, or blow his foot off... or both... Hillary will be the grown up,... Trump will be auditioning for a reality show... |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by raydawg on 09/25/16 at 09:05:42 I agree re: Trump, but look at the stuff he has already said and done.... And yet your established grown up qualified caninidate is trailing in some polls. It doesn't pencil out using past conventional wisdom..... I think you really fail to grasp that. It really isn't Trump, it's more of a sick and tired of the same old sheet and we is fed up, rebellion vote. The liberals have brought this on themselves.... Their smugness and belittling, of the opposition views/beliefs, has shut off any dialogue, and folks are pizzed. The academia, media, executive orders, courts, etc, have been used to circumvent our process, it really is akin to a tea party rebellion of feeling taxation without representation, again. But instead of say, " Ok, you got my ear, tell me your grievances", you label them ..... I think you are too steep in your parties talking points, and you want to believe it, for it justifies you, etc. You attack Trump, yet fail to clean your own closet.... This is what has folks riled, I believe. Jill Stein framed it perfectly when she said Hillary is more dangerous, for as you report, knows the workings of the system, and will pull all the old levers, as we fall and divide further. With Trump she said, he will be hamstrung by his lack of experience, which will then give others a real say and chance at crafting policies and solutions to our ills. Your bike is broken, you going keep trying to fix it the same way dude? |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by Serowbot on 09/25/16 at 09:27:05 64776F72776171160 wrote:
In a future election, you might find me with a 3rd party candidate, but it will have to be the right one... This election,... they are non-entities... and not focused. My vote is to stop the egomaniac... I do wish, Biden or Warren were running... |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/25/16 at 10:09:44 Trump , if he doesn't get up and start yammering about Enhanced Interrogation is too nice, we need more. And I'll bomb the Sh!t out of them, But sticks with I'll bring JOBS back But, sadly, the class warfare mindset dumbmasses won't like HOW he would Do that. The reasons for leaving, one of the main reasons our manufacturing jobs left, is corporate income taxes. The corporations pay the highest taxes HERE. And then, when they have Paid the taxes on the profits, THEN when they pay Dividends to the stockholders, owners of the same corporation that Just paid taxes , then the stockholders pay tax on earnings. Looks wrong to me. And WHO pays the taxes in the first place? The Consumer. It's the consumers Dollar, buying the product or service, that creates the profits. Every cost of doing business is buried in the cost of the product. The cost of complying with and record keeping to prove compliance is IN the price of the product. So, slash corporate taxes to below what they pay elsewhere, and give corporations a break on bringing the trillions of dollars they are sitting on overseas Back home. He talks about how the constitution guarantees the right to keep and bear arms, cutting taxes, and Explain Why it benefits everyone, and she can't beat that. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by Serowbot on 09/25/16 at 10:49:41 Yeah,.. as long as he acts like any one of the 16 other Pub candidates... voters rejected.. If he acts like Trump... he's toast... ;D He can win,. as long as he doesn't show how insane he really is... ;D ;D ;D... |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/25/16 at 11:03:55 I typed all of that, and all you have is smear trump. Nothing about the ideas, the Policy, and what changes could bring. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by thumperclone on 09/25/16 at 11:09:36 Justin you insinuate Hillary is anti gun rights she is not |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/25/16 at 11:20:25 6478657D607562737C7F7E75100 wrote:
I'm sorry, did I insinuate? I didn't mean to do that. Here, Hillary Clinton would remove every gun from everyone who ISN'T a cop or military if she could. There.. no insinuation. Better? When the Supreme Court upheld individual right to keep and bear She said They got it wrong. She does the old soft shoe when cornered. You can believe her, |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by raydawg on 09/25/16 at 13:54:18 4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
In a future election, you might find me with a 3rd party candidate, but it will have to be the right one... This election,... they are non-entities... and not focused. My vote is to stop the egomaniac... I do wish, Biden or Warren were running... [/quote] Biden is looking so good. Yes, he isn't clever in a devious way. He is personable, genteel, but not to a point of lording. I still believe Sanders was the only one who had the right focus, on where the fix can be found, first, affordable and accessible education to all. Be it trade schools, to doctoring. Then I believe our financial system favors the well to do to a point where it impedes growing our middle class, WHICH, goes to a "sub-topic" taxes..... They are heavy on the middle class too, and again, favor the rich and poor. Hey, that gas leak ate your tires bro...... you gonna ride like that? ;D |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by raydawg on 09/25/16 at 13:56:42 594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 wrote:
Please share what he WILL DO, not what you hope he will do. I'm all ears, Larry..... ;D |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/25/16 at 14:23:00 I'm not a seer. However, he STATED he intended to address corporate taxes, trade agreements and that he is a full on second amendment supporter. So, what more do you want from me? Pay attention to what he says. Funny, I show what Hitlery says, and I know what he says, yet, the IDIOTS continue to pretend I Only look for what I already wa n t to believe. GO LOOK FOR YOURSELVES. Has even One of you bothered to read a book or watch a video or expose your alleged mind to Anything that might cause YOU to THINK? If the shoe fits, wear it. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by Serowbot on 09/25/16 at 15:08:32 Snake oil goes down good, dunnit'?... :-? |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by raydawg on 09/25/16 at 15:19:19 Jog, you made a statement of fact re: Trump. I asked for you to quantify, you get hissy. I have no idea what Trump believes, when he says something..... He reminds me off the old "on the road" bob Hope movies, if it's Tuesday it must be Belgium ;D You're trying to make a sell, I am just asking what it is you is a selling? Hillary I already know about, and free would be too high an asking price for that! |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/25/16 at 15:19:49 Another stupid one liner. Screw this. You people are beyond help. You accuse me of ONLY looking at what I agree with. But look at NOTHING that gave me reason to believe as I do. I USED TO BE A DEMOCRAT. Hillary SAID , okay? Her words They got it wrong Go look. Trump sa i s what I said he said. Go look. Will he? DID I GUARANTEE HE WOULD OR DID I SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WILL DO? - N o w, open your eyes, shut your idiotic, collective mouths, look at what you don't want to see. And then YOU decide what to believe. I know she is Poison He might be How many times do I have to say it? How absolutely determined ARE YOU PEOPLE to believe I believe everything Trump says? Man, you're a buncha frustrating hypocrites. I've been honest in criticizing TRUMP, but you act like I believe he is the second coming of Christ. No, I just know what Hillary is. She's the worst thing that could happen to America. I would appreciate actual ideas instead of chikkenshit one liners. I've explained and demonstrated why I believe things, and I get idiotic gradeschool replies. Either step up or shut up. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by pg on 09/25/16 at 15:25:31 37282E2934330232023A28246F5D0 wrote:
Audit the fed Prosecute Hillary Release everything on 911 Rescind funding for public abortions And don't forget the wall Can't say I condone the nationwide stop & frisk though... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/25/16 at 15:38:27 657274787767150 wrote:
Audit the fed The president doesn't have the power to make it happen, but I hope he tries. Prosecute Hillary Obama will pardon her on his way out, despite the enmity. Release everything on 911 Sure he will. The same powers that protect the fed ran that. Rescind funding for public abortions And don't forget the wall Can't say I condone the nationwide stop & frisk though... He Seriously needs to read the constitution. Sadly, a misguided president Could get it done. Best regards,[/quote] |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by thumperclone on 09/25/16 at 16:34:53 637C7A7D60675666566E7C703B090 wrote:
I'm sorry, did I insinuate? I didn't mean to do that. Here, Hillary Clinton would remove every gun from everyone who ISN'T a cop or military if she could. There.. no insinuation. Better? When the Supreme Court upheld individual right to keep and bear She said They got it wrong. She does the old soft shoe when cornered. You can believe her, [/quote] AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG and you call us who disagree with you as blind pfffft |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/25/16 at 16:43:44 015 - Hillary Clinton slammed the Supreme Court as “wrong on the Second Amendment” and called for reinstating the assault weapons ban during a small private fundraiser in New York last week, according to audio of her remarks obtained by the Washington Free Beacon. While Clinton has ... Hillary Clinton Opposes Heller Gun Rights Ruling, Adviser Says ... Bloomberg › politics › articles › hillary-c... May 20, 2016 - Hillary Clinton believes a 2008 Supreme Court ruling that is the linchpin of an individual's right to own ... Proof That Hillary Does Want To Make The Second Amendment ... Forbes › sites › frankminiter › 2016/08/11 Aug 11, 2016 - ... Hillary Clinton said the Supreme Court got it “wrong on the Second [ ... Instead of making the “case every chance” she gets, we are now supposed to forget we heard her say this, says Blind? I was being kind. You choose to ignore the obvious. The word for that? Deplorable. Okay, instead of finding information that you can bolster your position with, hit me with a one liner, because that is all you have left. Or, you can dredge up where she walks it back, but let's stick with Her... When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time. She's been a criminal, openly, for decades. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by thumperclone on 09/25/16 at 17:02:34 there you go again screwing the facts to support your misconception a citizen doesn't need an assault weapon a person on the no fly list needs no weapon a background check is a sane (tho not perfect)requirement |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by thumperclone on 09/25/16 at 17:07:45 She's been a criminal, openly, for decades post a link |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by WebsterMark on 09/25/16 at 17:52:27 4A564B534E5B4C5D5251505B3E0 wrote:
Assault weapon is a broad definition according to which I have one, perhaps two, depending upon which idiot of the month is trying to decide how I should live my life. I'm ProChoice; I choose to own a gun and I don't think it's your business if I own an assault weapon. Just because you've emasculated, don't tell me to cut my ball$ off too thumper. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/25/16 at 19:24:06 283429312C392E3F303332395C0 wrote:
Screw that. Bill of RIGHTS. What I want isn't your decision to grant. Why does the second amendment exist? You're not able to answer that. Try, I really want to hear what a tyrant parrots back. Np fly list? You're a tyrant. There is EXACTLY zero due process in having your name put on that list. Pass THATstupid law and all that is necessary to take someones guns is put their name on the list. That YOU would have to have such explained is no surprise. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by thumperclone on 09/26/16 at 09:52:06 I'm ProChoice; I choose to own a gun and I don't think it's your business if I own an assault weapon. Just because you've emasculated, don't tell me to cut my ball$ off too thumper. it takes balls to own an assault weapon?? |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/26/16 at 12:13:42 I still want to see Why the second amendment exists, according to the gun control crowd. I don't think they can do it.. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/26/16 at 12:17:24 Ray, for you, the last time. Print it, put it on the wall. He SAID He would cut corporate taxes. I wrote all about why it matters. Do away with the trade deals, they have crushed America. He said he would UNDO with pen and paper what Obama has illegally done with pen and paper. That's a start. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by WebsterMark on 09/26/16 at 12:36:53 372B362E332631202F2C2D26430 wrote:
Not much sadder than a wussy liberal. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by WebsterMark on 09/26/16 at 12:37:41 Like a dog that's been fixed. You still think you are something but you ain't. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/26/16 at 12:47:45 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
I don't think any of them understand WHY the founding fathers put it in. I'm waiting. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by pg on 09/26/16 at 12:53:27 26393F3825221323132B39357E4C0 wrote:
I don't believe you will get an answer and I'm going to double-down on this challenge. I don't think they understand what the 3rd Amendment is either, so please feel free to elaborate. I'm waiting as well. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by MnSpring on 09/27/16 at 13:44:08 I don't believe you will get an answer I don't think so ether. After all, Socialistic Liberals, want to grow, MORE Socialistic Liberals. And to do that. They must treat them like Mushrooms. |
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Title: Re: She needs to win, BIG....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/16 at 21:03:00 Either they don't know or don't want to admit it. |
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