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Message started by Serowbot on 09/22/16 at 15:08:56

Title: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by Serowbot on 09/22/16 at 15:08:56

Fartman just proposed a nationwide "Stop and frisk" policy...

Sounds fun, huh?... :-?

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/22/16 at 15:39:32

That's skrude up. Someone NEEDS to sit him down for a reading of the constitution.
Amazing how acute the powers of perception are when the subject is other than the warmongering,treasonous witch.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/22/16 at 19:27:19

That your bipedal pustule can't even Say
The People have a Right to keep and bear arms
doesn't bother you makes me see you as something less than an American.
She has experience as a public servant, office holder in America.
She SHOULD know better.

Trump? Well, he understands the 2nd amendment.

Someone NEEDS to explain the others to him.
I can have hope for him.
That pregnant dog has exposed what evil she is. She is irredeemable, unless Vod intervenes. It's looking like he is. She's gonna fall over before she can finish screwing America.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by Serowbot on 09/22/16 at 21:59:54

Here's a bowl of Skittles,... mixed among them are 3 poison Skittles...
Here's another bowl,... we don't know what's in there,.. ,but it ain't right...
...could be a joke,.. could be a full bowl of poison...
... but, it sure ain't right...

I know your mind is as made up as mine...
...but, that second bowl smells stranger every day...
The one thing I'm absolutely sure of, is Trump will say, or do, anything,.. to come out on top... and the only measure of right or wrong, is how it affects Trump...
He is the capitalist, me generation, personified...
Every moral question, is paraphrased... "How does this affect, Trump?"...
BLM,..is NLM,... except for TLM...
No Lives Matter,.. but Trump...
Sociopathic  narcissism... personified...

If you vote for Trump... you are literally voting for Trump, exclusively....
That should be his new motto...
"A vote for Trump, is a vote for Trump"... ;D

I know you think Hillary uses the system to benefit her... and, in many ways, I can agree...
Trump will use any system, to benefit him...
His life history, is a quest for loopholes, scams, and lies, that benefit him, at the expense of anyone...
He's a scary prick,.. admired for his scary prickness... ;D...


Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by WebsterMark on 09/23/16 at 02:52:21

Perhaps that's all true about Trump but with a major correction. I believe he will judge himself on the success of the nation. Hilary will judge success based on herself. Trump is patriotic, I don't believe Hilary is.
It comes down to this, wouldn't you rather have George Patton leading your army?  Yes, he's a narcissistic egotistical bastard but he's gonna win the war. And that's what you want.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by raydawg on 09/23/16 at 03:34:11

Why did the Clinton's go to Trump's wedding, etc.....

Two peas in a pod.

You vote for Hillary, who has been proven to lie to save HER ARSE, only, many times, and has some very close compadres who came up breathless when the heat got too close.

You Bot, are voting for the same politics that got us to Trump, and you don't care, you are a sheep, admit it.
Its more about a D than anything else with your herd.

Only best chance is to show up in force with votes for neither of the two whack jobs.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/23/16 at 10:04:20

Johnson is Not a libertarian. He not only would not get rid of the existing trade deals that have gutted America, but supports the tpp, which removes our sovereignty.
Remember the Tparty? Sarah Palin jumped in front of the parade. It was coopted, the IRS used its power to crush it, both parties teamed up against it..  
If Trump wasn't such a threat to the power structure, go back, read what I posted about the Historical figures, THAT power structure, both sides would not be so hateful against him.
Yes, he has some really bad ideas. Hopefully he will surround himself with better people. People who Are American patriots and will school him on what America is supposed to be.
So far his second amendment stance and his determination to unshackle American industry are enough for me. Hell, the simple fact that he's not a lifelong politician is enough for me.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by raydawg on 09/23/16 at 10:35:51

Jog, I think you are mistaken if you think Trump will change his stripes.
The only thing thus far that I agree with him was recently, he said it's not about his canindancy that was propelling him, but more about a movement....
And yes, it is the outsider, or about as far away as you can get from what Hillary represents.

Our only chance is that if elected, he surround himself with smart folks, cuz I think the guy lacks leadership diplomacy.
Look at Obama, a big failure in bringing people together....

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/23/16 at 13:29:28

Look at Obama, a big failure in bringing people together....


He succeeded in doing what he intended.

Fundamental Change

We are less free, more divided, greater ddbt, hated worldwide.
But Don't Read what the Historical figures said.
Don't do it.
And Henry Ford? Why, he was an idiot. He had no right saying what he said about the federal reserve.
So, while all but one or two of you go on and on about how changing this and that would be good, and some of it would,
Until we can get globalist criminals out of our policy making, we will continue to get legislation like the trade deals, patriot act, and war after war,

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by LostArtist on 09/23/16 at 19:04:18


675552434455427D51425B300 wrote:
Perhaps that's all true about Trump but with a major correction. I believe he will judge himself on the success of the nation. Hilary will judge success based on herself. Trump is patriotic, I don't believe Hilary is.
It comes down to this, wouldn't you rather have George Patton leading your army?  Yes, he's a narcissistic egotistical bastard but he's gonna win the war. And that's what you want.



no he won't He's a winner, in his mind, if he loses, it's other people's fault or he's such a winner that losing was the really smart thing to do somehow in his mind (how he looks at his bankruptcies)

Leading an army?  maybe.  Leading a Nation, IDK. I mean, Kim Jong-un is also a narcissistic egotistical bastard too, I wouldn't trust him with a stick to build a fire, let alone control of a nation.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by LostArtist on 09/23/16 at 19:05:49


627D7B7C61665767576F7D713A080 wrote:
Johnson is Not a libertarian. He not only would not get rid of the existing trade deals that have gutted America, but supports the tpp, which removes our sovereignty.
Remember the Tparty? Sarah Palin jumped in front of the parade. It was coopted, the IRS used its power to crush it, both parties teamed up against it..  
If Trump wasn't such a threat to the power structure, go back, read what I posted about the Historical figures, THAT power structure, both sides would not be so hateful against him.
Yes, he has some really bad ideas. Hopefully he will surround himself with better people. People who Are American patriots and will school him on what America is supposed to be.
So far his second amendment stance and his determination to unshackle American industry are enough for me. Hell, the simple fact that he's not a lifelong politician is enough for me.



Johnson is still a Libertarian, you are not, never have been, you couldn't find one with a divining rod.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by LostArtist on 09/23/16 at 19:09:16


504F494E53546555655D4F43083A0 wrote:
Look at Obama, a big failure in bringing people together....


He succeeded in doing what he intended.

Fundamental Change

We are less free, more divided, greater ddbt, hated worldwide.
But Don't Read what the Historical figures said.
Don't do it.
And Henry Ford? Why, he was an idiot. He had no right saying what he said about the federal reserve.
So, while all but one or two of you go on and on about how changing this and that would be good, and some of it would,
Until we can get globalist criminals out of our policy making, we will continue to get legislation like the trade deals, patriot act, and war after war,



you can't bring people together when one of them is kicking and screaming not to even listen to the other, the republicans vowed from DAY ONE, not to work with Obama, and here you are blaming Obama for the Republican's own idiocy.

oh, and we are NOT more hated worldwide than we were under Bush, Obama and Clinton did help with that.

the fundamental change came when Republican's refused to do anything to make government work. their chant was "shut it down!"  

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/23/16 at 19:32:21

Shut it down is what you do when someone is sinking your ship.
What was Obama Doing that was gonna help the American people?
He has wrecked the coal industry.
We're in war in so many places I can't keep up.
The bubs created the divisiveness in society?

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by LostArtist on 09/23/16 at 19:44:31


2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:
Shut it down is what you do when someone is sinking your ship.
What was Obama Doing that was gonna help the American people?
He has wrecked the coal industry.
We're in war in so many places I can't keep up.
The bubs created the divisiveness in society?


believe it or not, Obamacare HAS helped some of the weakest and poorest American people, sure it's hurt some of the middle class and upper class, but they'll deal, like they always have. Student loan reform has been a help to many,

it takes 2 to have a divide, Obama can't divide all by himself.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/23/16 at 20:01:38

Nobody I knew WANTED it to fail. It was obvious that it would.
I remember Pre Hmos, I've watched the downtown. Whoopee, help twenty, screw millions./

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by LostArtist on 09/23/16 at 20:12:29


554A4C4B5651605060584A460D3F0 wrote:
Nobody I knew WANTED it to fail. It was obvious that it would.
I remember Pre Hmos, I've watched the downtown. Whoopee, help twenty, screw millions./



there are PLENTY of right winger who WANTED Obama to fail, Rush even said so on air and MANY agree with him "ditto heads" right?  

republicans in office have fought against everything he has proposed EVEN IF IT WAS ORIGINALLY A REPUBLICAN IDEA, just to see him fail, yeah, they aren't being divisive at all, the whole TEA PARTY was a rebellion against Obama and government actually working



Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/24/16 at 03:11:38

the whole TEA PARTY was a rebellion against Obama and government actually working


Now I get it.
You're impossible to educate because you can't see clearly.
That's quite possibly the most inaccurate statement I've ever seen.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by raydawg on 09/24/16 at 08:39:00


12312D2A1F2C2A372D2A5E0 wrote:
[quote author=504F494E53546555655D4F43083A0 link=1474582136/0#8 date=1474662568]Look at Obama, a big failure in bringing people together....


He succeeded in doing what he intended.

Fundamental Change

We are less free, more divided, greater ddbt, hated worldwide.
But Don't Read what the Historical figures said.
Don't do it.
And Henry Ford? Why, he was an idiot. He had no right saying what he said about the federal reserve.
So, while all but one or two of you go on and on about how changing this and that would be good, and some of it would,
Until we can get globalist criminals out of our policy making, we will continue to get legislation like the trade deals, patriot act, and war after war,



you can't bring people together when one of them is kicking and screaming not to even listen to the other, the republicans vowed from DAY ONE, not to work with Obama, and here you are blaming Obama for the Republican's own idiocy.

oh, and we are NOT more hated worldwide than we were under Bush, Obama and Clinton did help with that.

the fundamental change came when Republican's refused to do anything to make government work. their chant was "shut it down!"  [/quote]

Yes.... when your bike is breaking, you keep running it, or shut it down and fix it?

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by Serowbot on 09/24/16 at 09:02:38


7F6C74696C7A6A0D0 wrote:
[quote author=12312D2A1F2C2A372D2A5E0 link=1474582136/0#11 date=1474682956]

Yes.... when your bike is breaking, you keep running it, or shut it down and fix it?

Except,.. they left off the "fix it" part... :-?

That's where the "do nothing" Congress phrase came from...

When your bike is breaking,.. do you park it and never look at it again?...

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/24/16 at 09:25:19

It's really strange watching the left go sideways over TRUMP not being a great constitutionalist. Obama has crapped all over it while they clap and cheer and HE is supposedly a constitutional expert.
Ohh, WHERE has the Supreme Leader failed to uphold the constitution?
If you're not able to see, no explanation would help.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by raydawg on 09/24/16 at 19:51:42


485E49544C59544F3B0 wrote:
[quote author=7F6C74696C7A6A0D0 link=1474582136/15#17 date=1474731540][quote author=12312D2A1F2C2A372D2A5E0 link=1474582136/0#11 date=1474682956]

Yes.... when your bike is breaking, you keep running it, or shut it down and fix it?

Except,.. they left off the "fix it" part... :-?

That's where the "do nothing" Congress phrase came from...

When your bike is breaking,.. do you park it and never look at it again?...[/quote]

You serious?

I will just wait till Web flags you........

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by WebsterMark on 09/25/16 at 05:37:16

I ain't throwing crap, you goofball lefties took an analogy about skittles literally so you could dodge the issue.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by raydawg on 09/25/16 at 06:02:14


6B595E4F48594E715D4E573C0 wrote:
I ain't throwing crap, you goofball lefties took an analogy about skittles literally so you could dodge the issue.


Fine thing, bail, lose any semblance of integrity we might have lent you  ;D

Well I will extend on Bots stupid assertions in like manner.

The lefty would try to keep riding his broken bike.
When that fails he'll blame the road, weather, and then god, who he doesn't believe in, but calls him Harley Davidson, all thats wrong with America, nonetheless  ::)

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by LostArtist on 09/26/16 at 07:13:24


534C4A4D50576656665E4C400B390 wrote:
It's really strange watching the left go sideways over TRUMP not being a great constitutionalist. Obama has crapped all over it while they clap and cheer and HE is supposedly a constitutional expert.
Ohh, WHERE has the Supreme Leader failed to uphold the constitution?
If you're not able to see, no explanation would help.



again another "I'm SOOOOO much smarter than you that I can't even be bothered to actually explain anything" answer,  worthless

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/26/16 at 09:06:13

After all the posts where I laid it all out, and got the one liner response from you and all the other monosyllabic great communicators, you expect MORE?
Check out the executive orders.
Look at what he has done.
You won't even watch a video by Charlotte Iserbyt.
I'm TIRED of proving the left wrong. I've done it, over and over.
I'm TIRED of explaining why Bush should share a cell with Hitlery and Obama.
I'm STILL a bub.

Foxworthy was right.


Uhh, you missed a spot.


t's really strange watching the left go sideways over TRUMP not being a great constitutionalist. Obama has crapped all over it while they clap and cheer and HE is supposedly a constitutional expert.


I guess you actually believe Obama has been constitutionally restrained?



Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by MnSpring on 09/26/16 at 16:14:00


4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
" ... I know you think Hillary uses the system to benefit her...


And your are  GOOD  with that  ?????????

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by MnSpring on 09/26/16 at 16:30:20

" ... Except,.. they left off the "fix it" part... :-? ..."[/quote]

The, "FIX IT:, Part ????????

WHO ?
Are the  Ultra  Liberals are going to, 'FIX" it  ??????



Here is a case in point, (It is called,  REALITY)
 Very Small group of People.
A very, Very Small group of dog people.
about 11 years ago, the Parent Club, of a breed,
decided to,  'FIX", a thing, "Which Was Not Broke".

10 years later, EVERYBODY, said,  It is NOW   BROKE !
    (The, 'fixes', broke it)

Now, More,  'Fixes', are announced, which are 'added' to the, 'fixes', (which were broke), to 'fix', the break.
Which will result, it it being BROKEN,  Even Further !!!!!!!

YET, the Parent Club, will NOT, 'fix',  a   'Break', which has been,  'Broken', for the last 20+ Years.

And when one looks closer.
(Ray Charles could see, it is all about, ) 
"Kiss & Lick".





Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by MnSpring on 09/26/16 at 16:43:31


6C7F677A7F69791E0 wrote:
" ... Only best chance is to show up in force with votes for neither of the two whack jobs.


I  Agree, Totally.
Just not today,  (NOV).

Because, their is no united effort, for,  ONE, 3rd party.
(And no time left to do it now)
Any 3rd party vote will be fragmented, and a vote for Hitlery.

The choice is, (in Nov), to vote for someone, who will pull the Knife out, and then , JAM it back in, Making SURE it hits the Jugular Vein.

Or Vote for someone who will,  SLOW, the Bleeding.

THEN,  4 years to get behind,  ONE, 3rd party.





Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by Serowbot on 09/26/16 at 22:13:05

Trump doubled down on his "stop an frisk" policy again tonight during the debate...
Constitution?....

I have just a handful of really close. trusted friends...
One is Hispanic... I've known him for decades... worked with him for ten years...  He's college educated, honest, kind, and I would trust him with my life. He has worked the same job for 30 years, and lived in the same house...
Several times a month, he gets pulled over by Sheriff's or border patrol...
They check driver's license, insurance, registration, search his car, ask where he's coming from, where he's going... and generally waste 30 minutes of his time...
They know he has never committed a crime, or even had a speeding ticket... always has his insurance and registration up to date...
This has been going on for 30 years...  they know him, know his car, know where he works, where he lives, know he has a wife and 4 kids...
..and one of those kids may be sick,.. or his wife may be angry, or he may have had his arse chewed by his boss, or he may just have a headache...
... and here come the flashing lights... the 30 wasted minutes... the harassment...
2 of his kids are adopted... his brother's... one isn't even blood related, but he won't allow them to be parted...  perhaps the most upstanding man I know...

This will be "Stop and frisk"...
It's already happening now... and they know better...
Racial profiling amplified...

I appreciate you particularly, JOG... for acknowledging the injustice of this...
The Constitution isn't there for the majority... it's there for the individual...
Equal protections... no singling out people by race, sex, politics, or religion.
I hate what they do to him, and his family... but all I can do is vote...

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by raydawg on 09/27/16 at 03:41:31

Well I got nothing from it......
More of the same vague political speak.

Why we didn't have the other 2 candidates up there, speaks to me that nothing WILL change, with either of these two.

Hillary won by not losing, and Trump played civil, YIPEE!

Snoozer  ;D

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by WebsterMark on 09/27/16 at 04:57:50


4F594E534B5E53483C0 wrote:
Trump doubled down on his "stop an frisk" policy again tonight during the debate...
Constitution?....

I have just a handful of really close. trusted friends...
One is Hispanic... I've known him for decades... worked with him for ten years...  He's college educated, honest, kind, and I would trust him with my life. He has worked the same job for 30 years, and lived in the same house...
Several times a month, he gets pulled over by Sheriff's or border patrol...
They check driver's license, insurance, registration, search his car, ask where he's coming from, where he's going... and generally waste 30 minutes of his time...
They know he has never committed a crime, or even had a speeding ticket... always has his insurance and registration up to date...
This has been going on for 30 years...  they know him, know his car, know where he works, where he lives, know he has a wife and 4 kids...
..and one of those kids may be sick,.. or his wife may be angry, or he may have had his arse chewed by his boss, or he may just have a headache...
... and here come the flashing lights... the 30 wasted minutes... the harassment...
2 of his kids are adopted... his brother's... one isn't even blood related, but he won't allow them to be parted...  perhaps the most upstanding man I know...

This will be "Stop and frisk"...
It's already happening now... and they know better...
Racial profiling amplified...

I appreciate you particularly, JOG... for acknowledging the injustice of this...
The Constitution isn't there for the majority... it's there for the individual...
Equal protections... no singling out people by race, sex, politics, or religion.
I hate what they do to him, and his family... but all I can do is vote...


I'm calling BS and throwing the flag. Several times a month for 30 years for 30 minutes at a time? Nope. I think there's some serious stretching the truth here.....

Not that he doesn't get pulled over for what he looks like. I used to travel with a guy shortly after 9/11 who looked like a Muslim terrorist and it got to be a joke how often he got pulled out of line. He was born and grew up in Missouri!

However, he had the correct attitude and I suggest your friend adopt the same. He's being pulled over because of Muslim terrorist, it's their fault, not the cops. Yea, bad luck he looks like he does, but if this guy's as legit as you say, his safety is probably improved by those cops actions.

Complicated issue and I'm on my Ipad eating breakfast, too hard to type. More later.

But.....I'm throwing the flag. 15 yards for  exaggerations.

Title: Re: Trumping on the Constitution...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/27/16 at 07:52:43

This has been going on for 30 years...  they know him, know his car, know where he works, where he lives, know he has a wife and 4 kids.

There's just Gotta be something personal there. Trump is wrong, yeah, but trump is not involved here. Why would ANYONE just harass a guy like that?
He needs to be live streaming it, and he needs to sit down and try to document all of it.
And he needs to stop opening the car, and letting them screw with him.
That's screwed up.

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