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Title: Weekend Post by WebsterMark on 09/19/16 at 05:23:59 After this weekend's display of affection for American put on by the Religion of Peace, how can anyone argue against the idea of significantly changing America's immigration policy?

Title: Re: Weekend Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/19/16 at 06:04:17 Well, ya know, we don't really know Who did it, and even if we did, you know it's not Fair to judge the whole lot by the actions of a few, and you know that it's racist and xenophobic to even consider filtering through the people who you invite into your country. I'm just SURE that the people who believe that would happily allow any and all who could find room to camp in their yard and hang out in the house and help themselves to the refrigerator and pantry.

Title: Re: Weekend Post by raydawg on 09/19/16 at 06:22:58 How would you change it?

Title: Re: Weekend Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/19/16 at 06:37:12 I'd seal the borders, period. The only people who would come in would be people who have a clean bill of health, and enough money and education to start a business and hire people. We are a nation in trouble. The behaviors that got us here just might need changed. We can't save the world.

Title: Re: Weekend Post by raydawg on 09/19/16 at 08:06:34 657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 wrote: I'd seal the borders, period. The only people who would come in would be people who have a clean bill of health, and enough money and education to start a business and hire people. We are a nation in trouble. The behaviors that got us here just might need changed. We can't save the world. How would you implement that program? 100 % lockout ? No humanitarian considerations? Who is your brothers keeper?

Title: Re: Weekend Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/19/16 at 08:36:45 Yes, still save people from political/ religious persecution. You asked for POLICY. I delivered. You can look up what is being done to allow the borders to be overrun.

Title: Re: Weekend Post by LostArtist on 09/19/16 at 19:19:57 6F5D5A4B4C5D4A75594A53380 wrote: After this weekend's display of affection for American put on by the Religion of Peace, how can anyone argue against the idea of significantly changing America's immigration policy? Why are you making a connection between immigration and terrorism? Also, there are over 3 MILLION muslims in America right now, that haven't done anything, but you make sarcastic/disrespectful fun of the whole religion.   The real culprit, AS ALWAYS is extremism, fundamentalism, regardless of whether it's religion, nationalism. socialism, capitalism, etc..., destruction is the curse of EXTREMISM, everything in moderation

Title: Re: Weekend Post by LostArtist on 09/19/16 at 19:20:58 4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote: I'd seal the borders, period. The only people who would come in would be people who have a clean bill of health, and enough money and education to start a business and hire people. We are a nation in trouble. The behaviors that got us here just might need changed. We can't save the world. so, do they get to KICK you out then??  Can YOU do any of that?

Title: Re: Weekend Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/19/16 at 19:39:02 That you people can't discern the difference between people HERE and refugees coming is no shock. Okay. Elect her,bring them. See how much we get to see what is happening in Europe. Are you people aware of what they are doing?

Title: Re: Weekend Post by LostArtist on 09/19/16 at 20:10:28 57484E4954536252625A48440F3D0 wrote: That you people can't discern the difference between people HERE and refugees coming is no shock. Okay. Elect her,bring them. See how much we get to see what is happening in Europe. Are you people aware of what they are doing? ' They?? like Dylan Roof?  Timothy McVeigh?  the Bundy clan?, David Koresh?  Jim Jones? Wade Michael Page?   Eric Robert Rudolph? Theodore "Ted" Kaczynski?  The Weather Underground?  Inner city gangs?

Title: Re: Weekend Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/19/16 at 21:10:04 Okay, let's IMPORT more trouble. We clearly need more. Are you unaware of the rapes and murders in Europe from the refugees? Why do you want to bring it here? And what you believe about some of the people on your list Isn't what I believe. But you have good sources and have researched, im sure.

Title: Re: Weekend Post by WebsterMark on 09/20/16 at 04:45:15 Lost wrote: Why are you making a connection between immigration and terrorism? Also, there are over 3 MILLION muslims in America right now, that haven't done anything, but you make sarcastic/disrespectful fun of the whole religion.   The real culprit, AS ALWAYS is extremism, fundamentalism, regardless of whether it's religion, nationalism. socialism, capitalism, etc..., destruction is the curse of EXTREMISM, everything in moderation What are you; retarded or something? If the real culprit is AS ALWAYS extremism, and everyone keeps telling me these Muslims attacking and killing us are extremist and don't represent the wonderful, peaceful Islam, then why bring MORE extremist in? And everyone knows, including the FBI, if we bring in large numbers from these nations currently being overrun by one group of Muslims slaughtering another group, there will be extremist hidden within. No one disputes that. And the fact we just granted citizenship to 900 by mistake, the idea we can vet them is a joke. I read this morning that one of Trump's kids posted a tweet with a big bowl of Skittles with some kind of comment saying "3 of these are bad, but go ahead and eat the whole bowl" something like that. Now a bunch liberal crybabies smell blood in the water and are unleashing their main stream media partners to cry about being offended so that will be the "news"  all day long...

Title: Re: Weekend Post by raydawg on 09/20/16 at 05:06:29 Web, all guns are bad, period..... That is the liberal reasoning. They wrap their arguments with extremist views, re: partial birth abortion restrictions is equivent to a total ban on abortions again and would bring out coat hangers and dark alleys.... Re: immigration from Muslim regions. How would you go about vetting these folks?

Title: Re: Weekend Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/20/16 at 06:08:54 Millions of Muslims live peacefully among us. Let us be vigilant, but not afraid. Millions upon MILLIONS of inanimate objects exist harmlessly among us. It's just a few nutjobs who use them for evil . Let's be in fear and ban them. Democrats are able to hold very different approaches to very similar situations. The Muslim Not doing evil is an invitation to more. The gun used wrongly is reason to ban them all. But I shouldn't be confused by their superior thinking.

Title: Re: Weekend Post by raydawg on 09/20/16 at 07:27:54 293630372A2D1C2C1C24363A71430 wrote: Millions of Muslims live peacefully among us. Let us be vigilant, but not afraid. Millions upon MILLIONS of inanimate objects exist harmlessly among us. It's just a few nutjobs who use them for evil . Let's be in fear and ban them. Democrats are able to hold very different approaches to very similar situations. The Muslim Not doing evil is an invitation to more. The gun used wrongly is reason to ban them all. But I shouldn't be confused by their superior thinking. Don't expect an honest answer to your observation

Title: Re: Weekend Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/20/16 at 09:00:40 Just one of many..

Title: Re: Weekend Post by LostArtist on 09/20/16 at 18:59:55 5E4147405D5A6B5B6B53414D06340 wrote: Millions of Muslims live peacefully among us. Let us be vigilant, but not afraid. Millions upon MILLIONS of inanimate objects exist harmlessly among us. It's just a few nutjobs who use them for evil . Let's be in fear and ban them. Democrats are able to hold very different approaches to very similar situations. The Muslim Not doing evil is an invitation to more. The gun used wrongly is reason to ban them all. But I shouldn't be confused by their superior thinking. that's not my take on it, some democrats and liberals feel that way sure, not me. I don't have a problem with guns, I think the "Let us be vigilant, but not afraid." line works for both things just fine. but you know, you're just the same only in reverse, a gun not being wrongly used means all of them are okay and everyone should have one, while ONE muslim does something horrible and it's BAN THEM ALL!   so, what makes you superior? your lack of consistency is better that their lack of consistency?

Title: Re: Weekend Post by LostArtist on 09/20/16 at 19:06:28 5F4C54494C5A4A2D0 wrote: Web, all guns are bad, period..... That is the liberal reasoning. They wrap their arguments with extremist views, re: partial birth abortion restrictions is equivent to a total ban on abortions again and would bring out coat hangers and dark alleys.... Re: immigration from Muslim regions. How would you go about vetting these folks? what is the current way of vetting them??  anyone know?

Title: Re: Weekend Post by raydawg on 09/20/16 at 19:19:34 6645595E6B585E43595E2A0 wrote: [quote author=5F4C54494C5A4A2D0 link=1474287839/0#12 date=1474373189]Web, all guns are bad, period..... That is the liberal reasoning. They wrap their arguments with extremist views, re: partial birth abortion restrictions is equivent to a total ban on abortions again and would bring out coat hangers and dark alleys.... Re: immigration from Muslim regions. How would you go about vetting these folks? what is the current way of vetting them??  anyone know?   [/quote] I would like to know too, but it's odd our government can't be as good as businesses who sell products over the Internet. Give them bad data and it only takes seconds for them to not make a sell... However, I get a little spooked thinking big brother would honor and protect our identity without using it themselves, the current batch of IRS pukes come to mind.... I don't think they are just letting anybody in without some sort of identity. Those who say they have none, because of some circumstances, surely they fingerprint them, etc, and start a new identity process in them I would hope....

Title: Re: Weekend Post by LostArtist on 09/20/16 at 19:23:37 4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote: Lost wrote: Why are you making a connection between immigration and terrorism? Also, there are over 3 MILLION muslims in America right now, that haven't done anything, but you make sarcastic/disrespectful fun of the whole religion.   The real culprit, AS ALWAYS is extremism, fundamentalism, regardless of whether it's religion, nationalism. socialism, capitalism, etc..., destruction is the curse of EXTREMISM, everything in moderation What are you; retarded or something? If the real culprit is AS ALWAYS extremism, and everyone keeps telling me these Muslims attacking and killing us are extremist and don't represent the wonderful, peaceful Islam, then why bring MORE extremist in? And everyone knows, including the FBI, if we bring in large numbers from these nations currently being overrun by one group of Muslims slaughtering another group, there will be extremist hidden within. No one disputes that. And the fact we just granted citizenship to 900 by mistake, the idea we can vet them is a joke. I read this morning that one of Trump's kids posted a tweet with a big bowl of Skittles with some kind of comment saying "3 of these are bad, but go ahead and eat the whole bowl" something like that. Now a bunch liberal crybabies smell blood in the water and are unleashing their main stream media partners to cry about being offended so that will be the "news"  all day long... EDIT thanks to pg, SINCE 9/11/2001 dude, ALL THE TERRORISTS THAT HAVE ACTED IN THE US ARE FROM THE US, most were BORN HERE. not 1st generation immigrants to here. they BECAME extremists HERE oh and the skittles thing, if it was about bombs okay, but refugees are people, people who could be KILLED while we doddle about fretting about our vetting process. I agree we need to clean up OUR ACT first but let's not blame THEM for OUR incompetency

Title: Re: Weekend Post by pg on 09/20/16 at 19:31:04 092A36310437312C3631450 wrote: ALL THE TERRORISTS THAT HAVE ACTED IN THE US ARE FROM THE US, most were BORN HERE. not 1st generation immigrants to here. they BECAME extremists HERE According to authorities, all of the hijackers who committed the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were foreigners. All of them entered the country legally on a temporary visa, mostly tourist visas with entry permits for six months.  Although four of them attended flight school in the United States, only one is known to have entered on an appropriate visa for such study, and one entered on an F-1 student visa.  Besides the four pilots, all but one of the terrorists entered the United States only once and had been in the country for only three to five months before the attacks. http://www.fairus.org/issue/identity-and-immigration-status-of-9-11-terrorists Best regards,

Title: Re: Weekend Post by LostArtist on 09/20/16 at 19:47:35 7B6C6A6669790B0 wrote: [quote author=092A36310437312C3631450 link=1474287839/15#19 date=1474424617] ALL THE TERRORISTS THAT HAVE ACTED IN THE US ARE FROM THE US, most were BORN HERE. not 1st generation immigrants to here. they BECAME extremists HERE According to authorities, all of the hijackers who committed the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were foreigners. All of them entered the country legally on a temporary visa, mostly tourist visas with entry permits for six months.  Although four of them attended flight school in the United States, only one is known to have entered on an appropriate visa for such study, and one entered on an F-1 student visa.  Besides the four pilots, all but one of the terrorists entered the United States only once and had been in the country for only three to five months before the attacks. http://www.fairus.org/issue/identity-and-immigration-status-of-9-11-terrorists Best regards, [/quote] thank you for the correction, I meant since 9/11, but I did leave that out

Title: Re: Weekend Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/20/16 at 19:51:15 You want to import people who are not able to become Americans. One day you who are clamoring for them to be imported will be sorry, but it's gonna be too late.

Title: Re: Weekend Post by LostArtist on 09/20/16 at 21:27:33 check this out: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kZsOISarzg[/media] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kZsOISarzg okay, so yes John Oliver is liberal, but, there's some good info in that clip

Title: Re: Weekend Post by raydawg on 09/21/16 at 03:47:22 524D4B4C51566757675F4D410A380 wrote: You want to import people who are not able to become Americans. One day you who are clamoring for them to be imported will be sorry, but it's gonna be too late. Too late to see how a believer in Christ doesn't buy the tripe and threat of Satan.....but even in the darkest days pays tribute to, and witnesses the loving grace of Jesus..... With the hope other sheep in the flock of creation find truth in a dying and finite world? Is that what you mean? I disagree bro. If it was easy, it wouldn't be edifying, just another sales pitch of false hope.

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