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Message started by LostArtist on 09/13/16 at 18:23:59

Title: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by LostArtist on 09/13/16 at 18:23:59

just offering a new entitlement, 6 weeks off maternity leave, tax cuts for child care and a bunch of other things...

he hasn't said how he's paying for it all yet though... but I mighta missed that, just caught the end of his speel on it.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/13/16 at 19:25:11

If Hillary suggested it, would you like it?

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 09/14/16 at 10:23:51

Oh she doubled down on everything trump said but said she'll tax the rich so he's happy with her.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by Serowbot on 09/14/16 at 10:44:14

Trump is cutting taxes to the rich, and adding the loss to our national debt... which is essentially making us pay for it...
8-)

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 09/14/16 at 10:53:53

Has Obama balanced the budget once in 8 years?

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by thumperclone on 09/14/16 at 12:36:11

not with the obstructionists in congress

didn't bill balance the budget and covered social security?
and then what happened

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 09/14/16 at 13:31:39

Quote:

(CNN) - President Obama declared on Wednesday that Democrats can be trusted on the budget because, "the last time the budget was balanced was under a Democratic president."

Fact Check: Who was president the last time the budget was balanced?

- The U.S. government suffered budget deficits every year from 1970 through 1997.
- Democrat Bill Clinton was president in 1998, when the government finally recorded a surplus.
- There also were budget surpluses in 1999, 2000 and in 2001. 2001 was the last year the Clinton administration proposed the budget.
- Republican George W. Bush succeeded Clinton in 2001. The United States had a budget deficit in 2002, and it has recorded budget deficits every year since. The deficit is projected to increase substantially this year under President Barack Obama.
- Republicans say they should get at least some of the credit for the balanced budgets during the Clinton administration, because Republican majorities controlled both the House and Senate.

Bottom Line: Democrat Bill Clinton was president the last time the federal budget was balanced, and Republicans controlled Congress.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by thumperclone on 09/14/16 at 13:41:23

then they became obstructionists
sad [smiley=angry.gif]

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 09/14/16 at 15:11:06

If I remember correctly, it's the republicans who have been fighting the excesses in the budget for the past 8 years.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/16 at 15:42:59

Obstructionist
Anyone who would wrestle the wheel away from Stevie Wonder.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by LostArtist on 09/14/16 at 18:17:22

66797F7865625363536B79753E0C0 wrote:

If Hillary suggested it, would you like it?

I didn't say I didn't like it even though Trump suggested it. I like the tax credit idea, I don't know about much of the rest of it, like I said I only caught the very end of it where he was summarizing it. I would like to know how he plans on paying for it, if Clinton offered it, She would have probably included a tax increase on the wealthy so and so, 1% or something, at least there would have been something there.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by LostArtist on 09/14/16 at 18:18:01

485B4C4D525F595B500F3E0 wrote:

Oh she doubled down on everything trump said but said she'll tax the rich so he's happy with her.

at least she's trying to pay for it, instead of more REPUBLICAN debt spending

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by LostArtist on 09/14/16 at 18:24:08

445740415E5355575C03320 wrote:

Has Obama balanced the budget once in 8 years?

Did Bush? Did Reagan? Clinton kinda did, but before that it was ANDREW JACKSON that last balanced the budget.

I'm pretty sure Trump doesn't know how to balance his checkbook let alone a budget, he just declares bankruptcy when he can't balance his budgets and then he stiffs all the contractors and employees etc...

Trump hasn't even SUGGESTED balancing the budget

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/16 at 18:24:56

Debt?

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/nealedwards/blog/2015/11/bring-when-conservative-mentions-obamas-doubled-national-debt
They are ALL guilty.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by pg on 09/14/16 at 18:27:26

1A3925221724223F2522560 wrote:

more REPUBLICAN debt spending

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by LostArtist on 09/14/16 at 18:30:07

2D3E2928373A3C3E356A5B0 wrote:

If I remember correctly, it's the republicans who have been fighting the excesses in the budget for the past 8 years.

They put the excess in the budget in the 8 years before that 8 years

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by LostArtist on 09/14/16 at 18:37:52

485F59555A4A380 wrote:

[quote author=1A3925221724223F2522560 link=1473816239/0#11 date=14739022] more REPUBLICAN debt spending

What are you talking about? One post you assert call a spade a spade, and now you blame the Pubs for debt spending. Barry just doubled the national debt during his tenure, that's 10 trillion $$ ::)

Best regards,
[/quote]

oh, YOU DON'T KNOW???

it's the CONGRESS that PASSES the budget, the CONGRESS has been REPUBLICAN for the last 6 years

When Bush went to into 2 WARS, that was all off the books DEFICIT SPENDING

When Bush cut Taxes, he didn't replace that lost income with anything And THEN he went into 2 WARS

Republicans are against cutting ANY military spending regardless of how redundant and/or just UNWANTED it is, how many surplus A1-Abrams tanks do we have now???

Republicans are against any raising revenue (tax increases) to help balance a budget

Republicans haven't actually done 1 thing to control spending, they pass all the laws and programs that INCREASE spending then complain when the check comes due, then they shut down the government, not when they PASS the laws increasing spending, but when the BILL comes due, no wonder Trump is a Republican

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/16 at 18:38:47

And which ones slowed the spending?

Riiight,, neither.

Give TRUMP a chance.
How bad could he screw up?

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by LostArtist on 09/14/16 at 18:44:41

5D4244435E5968586850424E05370 wrote:

And which ones slowed the spending?

Riiight,, neither.

actually, Obama has slowed the spending, still spending way too much, but it was on the right direction.

Do you actually think Trump, the lover of Gold he is, is going to balance the budget?? really???

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by LostArtist on 09/14/16 at 18:46:14

445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:

And which ones slowed the spending?

Riiight,, neither.

Give TRUMP a chance.
How bad could he screw up?

well, once he takes away your 1st amendment rights to complain about it, no one will know

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/16 at 18:47:26

I've no idea , but I Have stated concerns.
Given Hillary's past, I KNOW she is crazy. So,
Again
I vote Trump.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by pg on 09/14/16 at 18:47:27

54776B6C596A6C716B6C180 wrote:

actually, Obama has slowed the spending, still spending way too much, but it was on the right direction.

What 10 trillion wasn't enough?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q

Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by LostArtist on 09/14/16 at 18:59:48

554244484757250 wrote:

[quote author=54776B6C596A6C716B6C180 link=1473816239/15#18 date=1473903881]

actually, Obama has slowed the spending, still spending way too much, but it was on the right direction.

What 10 trillion wasn't enough?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q

Best regards,[/quote]

Obama's NOT running again, incase you are confused..

So do you think Clinton or Trump will spend less? I mean, Trump is going to put his name on everything IN GOLD and pay himself royalties off his copyright ...

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/16 at 19:11:03

What trump has done with his own money somehow t r anslates to what he does as President?
That's unsubstantiated, and just hateful.where is your tolerance,?
You don't KNOW if it's true. You're just spouting crap, still.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by pg on 09/14/16 at 19:40:59

71524E497C4F49544E493D0 wrote:

actually, Obama has slowed the spending, still spending way too much, but it was on the right direction.

Obama's NOT running again, incase you are confused..

You are the one who touted Barry's fiscal policies.

And someone with the name "Lost" infers that I may be confused. ;D

Regarding who will be fiscally responsible, she has demonstrated behavior on a multitude of occasions of which I describe as unethical, immoral, and unconscionable. It is an absolute certainty that a person such as this will fail miserably.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by raydawg on 09/15/16 at 03:54:24

So it was Newt how got us a balanced budget then under Clinton.....

Gotcha!

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by Serowbot on 09/15/16 at 07:30:14

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/8-crazy-facts-about-the-national-debt/article/2598352

Quote:

If Donald Trump is elected president and Congress went along with all his proposals, federal debt held by the public would rise from 74 percent of GDP today to 129 percent of GDP in 10 years. Hillary Clinton, for comparison, would increase publicly held debt to 86 percent of GDP.

The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget made debt projections using campaign proposals from many of the presidential primary contenders. If Bernie Sanders were elected president, his campaign proposals would double federal debt held by the public to 156 percent of GDP.

As far as the national debt is concerned, the most expensive part of Trump's campaign proposals are his income tax cuts. Trump's proposals would increase the debt by $12.1 trillion, with about $9.3 trillion of that increase coming from tax cuts. The costliest parts of Clinton's proposals are her debt-free college proposal and her expanded paid family leave proposal, which would each cost $350 billion over a decade.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/15/16 at 08:46:20

nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget made debt projections using campaign proposals from many of the presidential primary contenders. If Bernie Sanders were elected president, his campaign proposals would double federal debt held by the public to 156 percent of GDP.

As far as the national debt is concerned, the most expensive part of Trump's campaign proposals are his income tax cuts. Trump's proposals would increase the debt by $12.1 trillion, with about $9.3 trillion of that increase coming from tax cuts. The

I'm not going to say Trump would not hurt us there. He well may. Here's where I a m..

nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget made debt projections using campaign proposals from many of the presidential primary contenders. If Bernie Sanders were elected president, his campaign proposals would double federal debt held by the public to 156 percent of GDP.

As far as the national debt is concerned, the most expensive part of Trump's campaign proposals are his income tax cuts. Trump's proposals would increase the debt by $12.1 trillion, with about $9.3 trillion of that increase coming from tax cuts. The

Now, WHO are these non partisan geniuses? The establishment republicans and globalists support Hillary. Everyone is trying to make trump look like a bad idea.
Cutting income taxes.. big deal, let you spend YOUR money.
Gee, I wonder what That would do for the economy,,,

Not taking money from people can increase tax revenue.
It can decrease it.

It's not necessarily a simple equation.

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 09/15/16 at 09:02:08

26393F3825221323132B39357E4C0 wrote:

Now, WHO are these non partisan geniuses? The establishment republicans and globalists support Hillary. Everyone is trying to make trump look like a bad idea.
Cutting income taxes.. big deal, let you spend YOUR money.
Gee, I wonder what That would do for the economy,,,

Not taking money from people can increase tax revenue.
It can decrease it.

It's not necessarily a simple equation.

As we've all seen, the pres submits a budget, the congress revises/approves it before all else.
Having a pres that's working in the same direction as congress and willing to negotiate is surplus (i.e., clinton)
or deficit (i.e., obama).

Where trump/clinton will be is anybodies guess.
But in any case, I think we should get ready for the 1st all female white house staff. :o

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/15/16 at 10:04:27

Should we just rename the Whitehouse?
Bernies place,,, ?

Title: Re: Trump, going liberal!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 09/15/16 at 10:51:49

716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 wrote:

Should we just rename the Whitehouse?
Bernies place,,, ?

Bernie won't make it.

Trump's Vacation Village

maybe...

Hillary's Hideaway