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Title: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/10/16 at 07:48:17 'BASKET OF DEPLORABLES': Clinton says half of Trump's voters are 'racist, sexist, homophobic' at fundraiser What a conniving witch she is..... Any means justify her needs. Please lefties, tell me how such utterance welcomes dialogue and tolerance? Please, I implore you......please? My tag line is exampled perfectly by her, and this mind set will never, ever, deliver what you, or I, and many, many, other desire. Rodney King asked the simple question while Los Angles was burning, destruction reigning, people killing each other..... Can't we just get along? Please, you who will vote for her, tell me how? I guess I will find solace, in believing her words, were spoken in desperation, as they must have internals that bear ill news. As ugly as Trump seems, his actions have in the least, invited dialogue into how we view and hold different beliefs, perceptions, about how the decisions, and laws, made by our politicians, have impacted our lives... If we can't extend free speech, which means beliefs and ideas, to all, then by default, we have denied our self the same privilege. If you can't understand that simple concept, then expect more of the same, until it all crumbles to ruin. For this freedom is PARAMOUNT, and this nation will not stand, her laws, Constitution, Declarations, are rooted, and supported, by this very freedom. Not for a few, but for all...... |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by Serowbot on 09/10/16 at 07:52:37 Not so nice when the shoe is on the other foot?... :-/ |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by WebsterMark on 09/10/16 at 07:54:40 Explain. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/10/16 at 08:14:01 4157405D45505D46320 wrote:
Thank you, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, for exhibiting the lefts hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty...!!!!! Let see, we will abandon reason, we will forfeit our principals, and become those things/traits, that we accuse of our opposition/enemy, to overcome him.... You sir, if spoken truthfully, are morally bankrupt, and will never know intimately, peace and serenity, sorry Bot. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by Serowbot on 09/10/16 at 08:23:37 It's not "intellectually dishonest" for you to get all worked up about Hillary using the same tactic Trump has run on for 12 months?... She shouldn't have said it... She stooped to Trump's level. ... but, she said it once. Trump has run on it... |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/10/16 at 08:28:07 ntellectual dishonesty is a failure to apply standards of rational evaluation that one is aware of, usually in a self-serving fashion. If one judges others more critically than oneself, that is intellectually dishonest. If one deflects criticism of a friend or ally simply because they are a friend or ally, that is intellectually dishonest. etc. Hypocrisy Is ID. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/10/16 at 08:41:11 2630273A22373A21550 wrote:
I am not voting for him, read my post, if you haven't understood that, then perhaps it reveals a basic distrust about yourself, not me.. Why you need to restate Trump did it, like he was wrong first makes it ok, is the breach in your morality. I believe you lack the capacity, not sure of willingness, to grasp it. It is sorta like how I love my wife, more than life itself, yet.... On many things, I will never understand how she thinks, or the reasoning behind it..... But not for a second would I want to change her, so I could understand her..... ;D Sorry Bot, this action by her, is squarely in your court, you accept it, you justify it, then you accept the same actions, of others, too..... As in a wheel goes round and round! |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by Serowbot on 09/10/16 at 08:47:49 You brought the issue up... not me. I said, she shouldn't have said it. I accept that she said it,.. I don't need to justify it, or own it. I didn't say it... |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/10/16 at 09:09:18 5442554850454853270 wrote:
Double standard perhaps..... Look how the left has ruined folks lives because of "one" remark that was used against them. I will example Al Campanis. A man directly responsible for integrating major league baseball. Yet for one stupid conversation, that sounded wrong when verbalized, the man was removed from a life he loved. Ja, Hillary only said this once, and she only did because of Trump.... Hypocrite pal, put your shovel down...... |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by WebsterMark on 09/10/16 at 19:39:01 It's fun because it's a rarity when Dems face 1/100 what Reps face daily.... Poor Matt Lauer has been crucified for actually pretending, at least for a couple minutes, he was a real journalist trying to get answers.... But anyway Sew, I think your girl is going to lose. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by verslagen1 on 09/12/16 at 08:24:51 5C4F574A4F59492E0 wrote:
I guess the other half are republicans ;D |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by thumperclone on 09/12/16 at 08:54:02 is the poor obstructionist right getting picked on again |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/12/16 at 09:23:58 Obstructionist Anyone who would wrestle the steering wheel away from Stevie Wonder. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/12/16 at 10:34:05 5A465B435E4B5C4D4241404B2E0 wrote:
Are you just whining again instead of make a point? Here, let me help you. I asked the question rhetorically. That means, I don't expect an honest answer. Class dismissed! |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by LostArtist on 09/12/16 at 12:18:04 what exactly is the argument? should she have said 1/3? or 1/4? or something more vague like "some significant percentage" and since you Ray, AREN'T a Trump supporter, why are you all pissy about this comment? Do you deny the existence of racist, sexist, homophobic people? do some of those kinds of people support Trump? probably, and some probably support Clinton. So all you are arguing over is a percentage. Carry on... |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/12/16 at 13:34:59 01223E390C3F39243E394D0 wrote:
LA, his post explained what he is going on about. Are you SURE you're not a democrat? You don't see what is obvious and seem all butthurt over Ray pointing out how hypocritical Hillary is. Where's the Love? Why can she, Head of Tolerance International, be so blatantly IN Tawlurunt? Please lefties, tell me how such utterance welcomes dialogue and tolerance. And, LA, You said and since you Ray, AREN'T a Trump supporter, why are you all pissy about this comment? You can point out how He shouldn't care, wrongly,but you don't see how your criticism of Ray fits you exactly and correctly. Congratulations, LA, because you just exactly engaged in Intellectual Dishonesty. Pretending that responding to a wrong requires being a part of those so wronged. And I thought that Independents and Libertarians were acutely aware of right and wrong. The left, OTOH, can't seem to define wrong, unless it's an action taken by a Constitutional Libertarian or Conservative. So, again, LA, are you SURE you're not a democrat? I don't hafta BE a member Of a group to not appreciate them being trashed. I also don't hafta be in the group being trashed to point out what trash the trasher is. What a bigot She is. She thinks she is better than Trump supporters? She thinks HER supporters are better? Naah, idiots and a55holes in both camps, just like everyday life. The difference is, the left CLAIM tolerance. And they are Tolerant of Nothing Offended by Everything What a joke. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/12/16 at 15:26:31 2C0F1314211214091314600 wrote:
Bill Clinton is the BIGGEST sexist I know that only uses women to get off, and his wife pretends she supports women.... Just the tip of the iceberg on these Clinton folks.... Vanna, I'd like to buy that guy a clue. Heck, turn over all the letters, he still would need more clues! |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by LostArtist on 09/12/16 at 17:39:26 JOG, blah blah blah blah blah .... so you support DEPLORABLES then. good to know which half of the Trump supporters you are in. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/12/16 at 18:09:35 When someone crushes you with logic you, rather than learn, show your true colors. Democrat. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by old.indian on 09/12/16 at 18:16:25 Insulting and demeaning your opponents' supporters is not a very good way to get them to discuses differences and negotiate some common ground toward solving the issues... |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/12/16 at 18:26:26 OHH! Lookie There! Now we know where HE stands,, |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by LostArtist on 09/12/16 at 19:31:32 45464E0443444E434B442A0 wrote:
let's be fair, no one is interested in solving the issues. When's the last time you heard and actual issue come into debate in this election?? she's sick, she's evil, he's dumb, he's a liar... and so forth Heck, JOG can't even SAY HILLARY CLINTON'S NAME. look at all the vulgar, disgusting things he's called her. and he Dare claim the high ground?? heck, Deplorable is a compliment coming from JOG |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/12/16 at 19:40:19 Why do you care? You're not a democrat, right? Just a hypocrite. And yeah, shes a bipedal syphilitic pustule. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by LostArtist on 09/12/16 at 19:58:08 here's what KILLS ME Trump, can be as politically incorrect and WRONG as it gets, again, and again, and again, over and over and over, and JOG and his other supporters worship him for it, the love how crude he speaks and how brazen he is. Clinton, does it once, and they freak out, they can't take their own medicine, and here's the kicker: SHE'S RIGHT! http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/basket-of-deplorables/499493/ http://qz.com/779709/hillary-clintons-deplorables-are-real-almost-half-trumps-supporters-hold-racist-views-of-african-americans-according-to-a-poll-conducted-earlier-this-year/ http://https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/ipsos-reuters-colorcorrected-2.jpeg?w=640 AND like I said, even Clinton supporters aren't innocent: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/12/kornacki_racial_attitudes_of_blacks_from_trump_supporters_not_far_off_from_clinton_supporters.html about 25-33% of Clinton supporters are racist 40-50% of Trump supporters are racist Sorry I don't have the Shaddow STATs on that, I'm sure they'd make it worse though So the double standard is Clinton Can't be politically incorrect or craz in any way, but Trump can't be craz and rude enough. but I'm sure you'll dismiss this since it's not from your God Alex Jone's mouth |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by LostArtist on 09/12/16 at 19:59:36 7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
no, but if you're going to cry about logic and fair play when you can't even be polite about HER FREAKING NAME, then, quite frankly, you don't deserve an ounce of respect |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/12/16 at 20:05:42 You can go girly. I'm done. You got clobbered, and now you're playing word games. Man up. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by LostArtist on 09/12/16 at 20:33:55 5E4147405D5A6B5B6B53414D06340 wrote:
just admit it, you like the deplorables, you are one after all, why else are YOU defending them? Also, Clinton didn't say that they should be outlawed or Banned, no, that's what Trump woulda said, and has said about religions. and hell, I hear it every darn day, the "low information voter" that's the Liberal/Democrat base, well now we know that the "deplorable voter" is the conservative/Republican base and Trump is calling them all out and here it is, the conservative right wing voter, who's supposedly thick skinned enough not to be PC and not to be offended by every little thing, is offended by an ACCURATE AND CORRECT description of themselves, guess you all aren't so thick skinned after all, do you want us to go back to being PC for you? just until your little boo boo heals up?? wimps |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/12/16 at 20:40:38 I disassembled you. You're butthurt. I don't care. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/13/16 at 05:12:13 Oh the irony..... Lost, you call names wholesale, simply because those disagree with you.... And the irony escapes you. Your graph/poll is meaningless too, as who defines racism is subjective, which skews any real meaning to it. Affirmitive action is racist, as it discriminates against one, based on race, or gender, to promote another. Two wrongs never make a right, never... But if I was a high profile person, and I shared this, even tho I never based any decisions of employment, etc, on race or gender, I would be labeled a racist by you..... This is what the left does, they seperate in order to empower themselves collectively. Willingly they segregate based on race, etc, with the black caucus, Hispanic caucus, gay lobby, etc. Only to corral any independence and keep it on the farm, under one banner, to sell/deliver to a candidate who will deliver to them their needs over another's..... I thought we were all the same? Of course there is bias, and prejudice, but that does not make it racism. And to lump all who view this problem differently, or have other ideas at how we might share America more equally, you guys snuff out any dialogue and opportunity to really listen to, and find a solution, that we can all live with..... I will give you an example of why this left wing ploy will never work. I often have the same observation and discussions with my fellow believers in God. I tell them if you want to witness and share the love God has for all his creations, you better be able to exhibit that love first.... I mean really, would you buy a diet plan from an obese person? Think about it.... For this reason the left has always dodged honest and open dialogue is the reason Trump is even an issue. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by oldNslow on 09/13/16 at 07:10:45 LostArtist wrote: Quote:
Unpleasant as is might be for folks in both camps to admit, I think LA is on to something here. A distressingly large number of people vote for one candidate or another the same way they root for a football team. " Wear the same Tee shirt and hat as me and it's is all good. Wear some other teams, well then YOU SUCK !" Not everyone, but enough to decide elections. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by old.indian on 09/13/16 at 07:16:24 6B5554584A5657390 wrote:
:-/ Ditto.. :-/ |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/13/16 at 07:40:35 I agree, to a point. There are Card Carrying Cheerleaders for both alleged Sides, regardless of the Fact that neither side ever repeals Anything their alleged Opponents did. It's those who Aren't gut hooked, sold out, blind to the offenses of the lying treasonous leaders of the parties who can sway an election, Providing the election is not rigged. As for Nobody wants to solve problems, The people are not even in agreement on What the problems Are. The left seem to be focused on what it looks like. We MUST import refugees, else we appear callous and unFeeling. Never mind that they are guaranteed to commit acts ranging from rape and murder to outright terrorism.. The Right seem to believe we need to invade places. We are hemorrhaging money and jobs, homelessness grows,our electeds are not representing the People, and people are tired of it. Our farmers have been crushed out of business, into the bigger and bigger farms, and the food isn't as good. Beef producers are being done the same way. And the biggest among all of it? They get subsidies. The trade deals have Hurt America. But nobody changes anything. The only hope I see is SOMEONE who ISN'T a part of that ongoing systematic pattern of governmental abuse of the people. Hillary is a piece of that system. Never Hillary. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/13/16 at 08:11:16 Look you guys, can't we all just get along, no. It sounds so dignified and civilized to use the word "we" It makes manipulating the message more honest, not. I have been posting how trump is just the result of no dialogue or entertaining other solutions to these problems we should be focusing on. To say I think we need to control immigration will only invite deplorable assignment because it is not PC. Please, someone, inform me, how do we fix anything if we can't talking openly? |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by oldNslow on 09/13/16 at 08:15:25 Quote:
I used to believe that. I no longer do. :( It's about the numbers. And the numbers are headed in the wrong direction. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/13/16 at 08:46:03 Well, I sure hope I don't discover that you're right, because we beze skrude for sure if you are. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by MnSpring on 09/13/16 at 17:41:55 1734282F1A292F32282F5B0 wrote:
See, THAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM !!!!!!! I have a Good Friend, who is completely, OPPOSITE, (Politically) than I am. BUT, when we sit down on the back porch, and discuss things. We COME TO Agreement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Each giving and taking) So the problem is, the, 'Politicians', do NOT DO what, 'WE" Tell them to do !!!!!!!!!!! The, Politicians, do NOT Pay you, YOU Pay them. (And hire and fire them) When you start in YOUR, Town, Township, County, State. You will not have to tell, the Federal representatives. They will have, LEARNED. YOU, hire and fire them, YOU, Pay THEIR Wages !!!!!!!! Well of course if someone can not see a problem, with a, LAW, that allows a MAN, to go into a Girls, Bathroom. Or a LAW, that a business person, HAS to sell the thing they make. Or a LAW, that someone can ONLY, fly a certain flag. OR a person, has to STOP, selling a certain Meat product. Or a person, stop using/buying, a thing, because 'They' don't like it. ANY, REASONABLE Person, can clearly see, those things are wrong. When the, FACTS, are explained. Facts, NOT, 'made up crap', or, 'spun crap', by a one sided Media. And if they cant see, the, 'FACTS', Guess they will vote for Hitelery. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/13/16 at 17:53:39 I have a Good Friend, who is completely, OPPOSITE, (Politically) than I am If you were actually getting him to understand, he would stop being so far from you in understanding. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by MnSpring on 09/13/16 at 18:09:43 That's the point, we would sit down, and each, would 'give and take', so it became, Reasonable. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/13/16 at 19:56:45 Unless someone can explain WHY my position is less than correct, I can't Give. |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/14/16 at 03:43:08 4A555354494E7F4F7F47555912200 wrote:
But those who you are arguing with, if they won't give, either, for the very same reason, are they stiff-necked? I understand the context/problems, are different, depending on circumstance, as too many cook in the kitchen, and the customers will most likely starve, for lack of service ;D But do you not see you are just as responsible for this stalemate as they are? Yes, I know you feel more open-minded, and I believe you feel you will change, if proven your reasoning fails, but dude, I'm sorry, I can't recall any exchange here like that, you might example for me. Got one? |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by raydawg on 09/14/16 at 03:47:20 44675A797B60676E090 wrote:
That is deplorable.... Question: If its only words that Hillary spoke, and they should not get so butt-hurt, why them if a righty tells a un-PC joke, they get hammered? The CONTECT is joke, like HA-HA, yet.... Blacks can use racial epitaphs on others, yet, if a white person....GOODNESS! Honesty isn't very forthcoming, agenda is! |
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Title: Re: F her...... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/16 at 07:45:15 n_o_guy2 wrote on Today at 03:56:45: Unless someone can explain WHY my position is less than correct, I can't Give. I'm able to offer reasons for what I believe. I've Shown that. Not something nebulous, because it's Right, it feels good crap, but I've been posting titles to books and links to information that are from solid sources. I posted a link and included an excerpt from an article that put a good number of historical figures together, presidents, generals, captains of industry, all saying that they believe that there is a dark force, a group of people determined to undermine America, and how many here gave it a thought? Did anyone who didn't already agree even read i t? The statement that Nobody wants to solve the problems Is all too true. Unless people are willing to see that, unless they have reached into places NOT generally looked at, if what they believe is based in information that is widely available, in newspapers or the news on TV, in school, then they are less than informed and often, intentionally Misinformed. They lied to us, intentionally, to manufacture consent to invade Iraq. They threw the BayBees on the cold hard floor. The WMDs! Now, you people can continue to wrestle with each other over details about what America should and shouldn't be, but if we continue to allow policy to be made by the members of the globalist think tanks, we are not going to be America except for the name of the area on the globe. Since JFK, we've seen the presidential advisors and cabinet members start to be members of the same groups. The once upon a time anti war democrats are not anti-war today. Hillary can joke about the brutal murder of a man,, a man who deserved to die, WHY? That's a real question. I'm wanting an answer. I don't Know the answer, But, surely someone who supports Hillary does. Or, everyone who thinks she's good has at least one Big question mark in their gut,, How can she call killing him GOOD? What did he do to deserve to die? And So brutally, a bayonet up his butt, how HORRIBLE, I have the tools to offer. Those who don't want to solve the problems ignore what is not something they want to believe. I didn't START life believing what I do. I , at 18, was a democrat. |
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