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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 13:39:04

Title: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 13:39:04

Need a bent adapter and the Supertrapp didn't?
I'm about to spring for a Trapp, so I need to know if it's not gonna fit.

It's not looking like the way the 05 looked, but that's been ten years ago, so,, waddo I know?

Dang, by the time I get extra disks I'll be in it about $650.00
SURELY I won't hafta pay freight.

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 13:46:18

Derk uh Derrr!
I Just re Mimburrded.
I had a Trapp on the 05 Right?
Well, the Stock muffler is around here somewhere then..
And now it's in the shop, waiting for a drill bit.

So, who knows what size and how many work out well?
I guess it's subjective. Probably otta poke some smallish holes and space them out to be able to add some, and go bigger.

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Ruttly on 08/31/16 at 14:59:00

Jog thought I saw a nice used one on fleabay

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Ruttly on 08/31/16 at 15:03:15

Yes under ls650 exhaust, some bluing , 193.00 free shipping

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 15:04:30

got a link?
I never go looking for stuff there, I could spend a week in there.

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Ruttly on 08/31/16 at 15:12:11

Has a little damage at end , for the price it ain't bad

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/16 at 15:15:57

My stocker has four 3/8" holes
And sounds nice to me anyway.

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Ruttly on 08/31/16 at 15:30:08

Go to eBay type in LS650 exhaust

This dummy can not link you

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Ruttly on 08/31/16 at 15:34:04

New one for 492.00 free shipping too

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Ruttly on 08/31/16 at 15:34:36

Find it ?

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 16:28:02

7E6D7A7B64696F6D6639080 wrote:

My stocker has four 3/8" holes
And sounds nice to me anyway.

I can't get air through mine. It's been in a bad place for years..
I guess I'll have to take it and the header and the Dyna to a muffler shop and get something built.

Maybe I'll just get a glass pack.. And braze the mounts off of the Jardine on it.

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Dave on 08/31/16 at 18:02:26

The Supertrapp didn't need an angle adapter - as it was built with the proper angle. The DYNA is straight, and it needs an adapter. The $54 price with shipping is a bit high - but the RYCA adapter works fine, and the price isn't all that high and it saves a lot of horsing around trying to get the DYNA to fit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/G-SUZUKI-SAVAGE-LS-650-S40-2003-AFTERMARKET-EXHAUST-MUFFLER-PIPE-SUPERTRAPP-/131859624418?hash=item1eb37231e2:g:r80AAOSwJMhXDpoG&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-Suzuki-Savage-S40-Exhaust-Muffler-Adapter-Cafe-Racer-Bobber-/121587070981?hash=item1c4f277805:g:KtcAAOSw-jhUASnS&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Kris01 on 08/31/16 at 18:29:09

I thought you favored the Dyna over the 'trapp because of the lack of "bang for the buck". The Dyna is WAAAY cheaper and has the same performance.

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Ruttly on 08/31/16 at 19:01:21

I love the tuneablitity of a supertrapp , get it to a noise level your ok with then jet the carb, but I really like the looks of the Dyna on a Savage , almost like it was made for it and you really can't beat the price !

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 19:09:11

The Dyna is WAAAY cheaper and has the same performance.

Depending on the number of disks, I expect that is true.
The Dyna is designed to handle one side of a WHAT? CC engine?

I thought it was 1200 cc..

Anyway, the Trapp is, IF performance is The Absolute, no matter What, required result, the choice. But, the Performance difference in no way justifies the price difference.

That's just my opinion.

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by mpescatori on 09/01/16 at 05:23:37

Shovelhead Dynas were 1200cc and 1340cc (late late Shovelheads)(75 & 80 cu.in.)

Then came the 1340cc (80 cu.in.) Evo Dynas

Then came 88, 96, 103 cu.in.Dynas.

As far as I now, the stock Superglide has been using the same old 2-2 layout for the last 40+ years.

...says the man with one Dyna muffler on his Savage and two Dyna mufflers on his 80 cu.in. Evo Superglide ! ;D

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Ruttly on 09/01/16 at 06:17:10

I agree , dyna looks better too !

Then make it so captain

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by thumperclone on 09/02/16 at 00:54:34

6C7375726F6859695961737F34060 wrote:

1200cc/2cyl = 600cc
size of the pipe man

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by old_rider on 09/03/16 at 08:30:39

Whats this you "HAVE" to have an adapter for a dyna??? I've put one on my wife's and mine and never used one.

The only thing is, since I ride mine all the time, my dyna has developed an empty sound, like I burnt all the insides out (which probably is true since mine runs hot).

The wife doesn't like the sound of mine anymore, she says its too loud and sounds weird.

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/03/16 at 12:58:09

Well, I can't get it to line up with the mount, it's aimed at the wheel. Even with the header loose and able to swivel around.
What did you do differently?

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by KennyG on 09/03/16 at 17:28:28

Justin,

Somewhere on here Dave has posted a picture and dimensions of what he used for an adapter between the header and the Dyna muffler. I had a local muffler shop bend a similar adapter for me that has worked well for over 6000 miles.

The Ryca adapter is a little pricey but it is well thought out and works the first try.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/03/16 at 17:48:04

I'm in a hurry...

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by KennyG on 09/03/16 at 18:09:28

Judtin,

I think this what what someone here on the forum posted that I copied from.

My copy will be in the next post.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Kris01 on 09/03/16 at 20:33:07

JOG, what are you doing wrong? Can you post a pic of how it mounts? My Dyna slipped right on and clears the wheel easily. I did fabricate an extension for the mount so I could bolt it to the stock muffler mount. I think the piece I used is called a "mending strip". I drilled 2 extra holes in it to match the muffler/stock mount. Now there's 2 bolts holding the mending strip to the mount and 2 bolts holding the Dyna to the mending strip.

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by KennyG on 09/03/16 at 22:58:11

Justin,

My adapter came out a little long and I had to drill a hole in approximately the center of the muffler hangar to line up with the front bolt holder on the muffler.

I had a stainless steel carriage bolt on hand that fit, and used that with a hardened lock nut. Harley makes a carriage bolt that is supposed to fit perfectly in the Dyna muffler and a matching nut. The only problem that I had was finding a drill bit the correct size so I could use the factory rubber bushing.

I was planning on making an adapter for the muffler hangar so that I could use the second bolt holder on the Dyna muffler, but when everything was bolted together and the header bolts carefully tightened, with a 1/4" drive socket and ratchet, the setup was so solid that I didn't bother making an adapter to use the second bolt.

I did use Permatex Muffler & Tail Pipe Sealant on the locally made adapter and I now have over 5000 miles on the Dyna modification without any leaks. I cannot remember the last time that I heard an after fire or backfire.

I used brand new genuine Harley Muffler Clamps that I had on hand as they are so cheap at the Harley dealers I always keep a couple on hand. The Harley clamps are the best and you can really crank them down to get a tight leak free setup.

It is probably crucial to get the Dyna mount aligned perfectly with the Suzuki muffler hangar for a strong leak free installation

Kenny G

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/04/16 at 02:01:45

102932286B6A5B0 wrote:

Honestly, I don't see how I could be doing it wrong.
I loosened the three bolts holding the mount, loosened the header, and got everything working together,,, aaaand, no joy.. And I'm not gonna mess with pictures,, takes too long to relearn how..

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/04/16 at 02:03:49

5779725F6E7D6F741C0 wrote:

Judtin,

I think this what what someone here on the forum posted that I copied from.

My copy will be in the next post.

Kenny G

If anyone knows what degree bend and length, that would help..
I Think I remember 7 degrees someone said..

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by Dave on 09/04/16 at 04:04:07

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1353284557

Title: Re: Why does the Dyna
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/04/16 at 04:26:12

I then put the pipe in my bandsaw and cut the pipe at a 3 degree angle.

Dadgum Dave, if I Had a bandsaw I don't know if I could make a Three Degree cut.. well, maybe, if I was trying to cut it straight.

(Pay no attention to the reflection in the chrome of a man laying on the floor with his camera in hand.)

That's not easy. The Fun House mirror effect is cool.