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Title: Trump can't be bought... Post by Serowbot on 08/30/16 at 09:14:51 ...and that's a really good thing,.. because the biggest funder of his campaign is now a hedge-fund billionaire, named Mercer... The Super Pac he funded was originally anti-Trump and pro Cruz, but when Cruz lost, he jumped over to Trump. Kellyanne Conway ran that Pac... He is also the largest funder of Breitbart... Bannon runs Breitart. Bannon and Kellyanne are now in charge of Trump's campaign... Trump is solely under the thumb of a hedge-fund billionaire that makes Trump look like a pauper... If you want a job creator, Mercer ain't your man... he's a money creator... Follow the money.. :-? Trump is now bought and paid for... |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by raydawg on 08/30/16 at 10:07:47 How is this different than Soros? |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by Serowbot on 08/30/16 at 10:12:19 It ain't... that's kinda' my point. :-? |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by raydawg on 08/30/16 at 10:33:49 But you find it more what, egregious? |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/16 at 10:55:26 I'll take a bought TRUMP over a Hillary. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by pg on 08/30/16 at 12:14:52 2137203D25303D26520 wrote:
So he is affiliated with someone, it doesn't prove anything. Regardless, how many people and groups is your girl in debt to? Here are just a few. EMILY's List $1,102,573 $1,093,653 $8,920 University of California $1,068,770 $1,068,770 $0 Citigroup Inc $958,692 $950,692 $8,000 JPMorgan Chase & Co $949,476 $946,476 $3,000 DLA Piper $915,667 $888,667 $27,000 Goldman Sachs $912,609 $902,609 $10,000 Morgan Stanley $888,770 $883,770 $5,000 Time Warner $749,543 $724,543 $25,000 Skadden, Arps et al $707,192 $702,692 $4,500 Alphabet Inc $673,636 $673,636 $0 Kirkland & Ellis $595,279 $578,279 $17,000 Harvard University $594,775 $594,775 $0 Akin, Gump et al $559,985 $556,485 $3,500 Microsoft Corp $539,364 $535,864 $3,500 Paul, Weiss et al $517,469 $517,469 $0 US Government $513,767 $513,767 $0 Corning Inc $502,813 $478,909 $23,904 Greenberg Traurig LLP $495,286 $487,186 $8,100 National Amusements Inc $489,820 $486,820 $3,000 Stanford University $483,844 $483,844 $0 https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career That doesn't include Soros or the Saudis. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/16 at 12:21:44 Yeah, she takes money from repressive regimes, where they behead, stone, whip, the gender confused, then pretends she supports the groups that are victimized, While she intends to import the people who are sworn to kill the confused. No conflict.. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by raydawg on 08/30/16 at 12:25:33 I guess he was just doing a drive by post..... His point was? And I got called pee wee Herman for pointing out this type of posting/thinking/mindset. Even the green candidate said voting for one lessor is still voting for evil. I am not sure if bot and company can stand the truth..... Just like Jack said ;D Oh, he said "handle the truth" correction noted. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by HovisPresley on 08/30/16 at 14:25:15 637C7A7D60675666566E7C703B090 wrote:
.......................................................... You're right JoG. Hypocrisy like that, on that scale, affecting so many people worldwide is disgusting. An alien from Mars might look over to Earth and wonder about humanity, and it's outrageous hypocrisy. The alien will note the conflict (literal and ideological) between the religions. The wars for God, for greed.... Would the alien be surprised to find that the 'Western hemisphere' say they follow a God that teaches "Thou shalt not kill" but they have the largest armies, defence spending, arms manufacturing, (by a huge margin) ? The West's 2nd in command, spiritually speaking, teaches about "turning the other cheek" but the alien just watches their devastating aggression around the globe. The alien then thinks he missed an 'episode of his Earthwatch viewing delights' as he fails to see where either, eg, the UK and USA were invaded or suppressed by military might..... by Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, or any 'Eastern hemisphere' nation. That, folks, is hypocrisy.... as I discovered when the alien put down his Earthspeak phrase-book/dictionary. And it's a whole lot bigger than Hillary vs Donald. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/16 at 15:05:48 But Hitlery Far outweighs trump in hypocrisy. The dumb masses are still unable to see what eugenicists planned parenthood are. Even showing Sangers quotes don't open the eyes of the brainwashed. The third group [of society] are those irresponsible and reckless ones having little regard for the consequences of their acts, or whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers. Many of this group are diseased, feeble-minded, and are of the pauper element dependent upon the normal and fit members of society for their support. There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped. https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger The woman was against the existence of any and all whom she viewed as Less than. What? Not enough evidence? IS there Enough? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/grossu-margaret-sanger-eugenicist/ In a letter to Clarence Gable in 1939, Sanger wrote: “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members” (Margaret Sanger commenting on the ‘Negro Project’ in a letter to Gamble, Dec. 10, 1939). Ohh, but it's taken out of context? She didn't mean it like that? Logo: The Washington Times HOME NEWS OPINION SPORTS MARKET SUBSCRIBE President Barack Obama steps out of the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, Friday, Aug. 26, 2016, as he departs for a quick trip to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Md to visit with wounded service members. (AP Photo/J. David Ake)POLITICS Obama commutes sentences for 111 more conv... Democratic vice presidential candidate, Sen. 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Her views and those of her peers in the movement contributed to compulsory sterilization laws in 30 U.S. states that resulted in more than 60,000 sterilizations of vulnerable people, including people she considered “feeble-minded,” “idiots” and “morons.” She even presented at a Ku Klux Klan rally in 1926 in Silver Lake, N.J. She recounted this event in her autobiography: “I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan … I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses … I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak … In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered” (Margaret Sanger, “An Autobiography,” Page 366). That she generated enthusiasm among some of America’s leading racists says something about the content and tone of her remarks. In a letter to Clarence Gable in 1939, Sanger wrote: “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members” (Margaret Sanger commenting on the ‘Negro Project’ in a letter to Gamble, Dec. 10, 1939). Her own words and television appearances leave no room for parsing. For example, she wrote many articles about eugenics in the journal she founded in 1917, the Birth Control Review. Her articles included “Some Moral Aspects of Eugenics” (June 1920), “The Eugenic Conscience” (February 1921), “The Purpose of Eugenics” (December 1924), “Birth Control and Positive Eugenics” (July 1925) and “Birth Control: The True Eugenics” (August 1928), to name a few. The following are some of her more telling quotes: “While I personally believe in the sterilization of the feeble-minded, the insane and syphilitic, I have not been able to discover that these measures are more than superficial deterrents when applied to the constantly growing stream of the unfit. They are excellent means of meeting a certain phase of the situation, but I believe in regard to these, as in regard to other eugenic means, that they do not go to the bottom of the matter.” (“Birth Control and Racial Betterment,” Feb. 1919, The Birth Control Review). “Eugenics without birth control seems to us a house builded upon the sands. It is at the mercy of the rising stream of the unfit” (“Birth Control and Racial Betterment,” Feb. 1919, The Birth Control Review). “Stop our national habit of human waste.” (“Woman and the New Race,” 1920, Chapter 6). “By all means, there should be no children when either mother or father suffers from such diseases as tuberculosis, gonorrhea, syphilis, cancer, epilepsy, insanity, drunkenness and mental disorders. In the case of the mother, heart disease, kidney trouble and pelvic deformities are also a serious bar to childbearing No more children should be born when the parents, though healthy themselves, find that their children are physically or mentally defective.” (“Woman and the New Race,” 1920, Chapter 7). “The main objects of the Population Congress would be to apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring[;] to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization.” (“A Plan for Peace,” 1932). In a 1957 interview with Mike Wallace, Sanger revealed: “I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world — that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically. Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they’re born. That to me is the greatest sin — that people can — can commit.” This line of thinking from its founder has left lasting marks on the legacy of Planned Parenthood. For example, 79 percent of Planned Parenthood’s surgical abortion facilities are located within walking distance of black or Hispanic communities. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Abortion Surveillance report revealed that between 2007 and 2010, nearly 36 percent of all abortions in the United States were performed on black children, even though black Americans make up only 13 percent of our population. A further 21 percent of abortions were performed on Hispanics, and 7 percent more on other minority groups, for a total of 64 percent of U.S. abortions tragically performed on minority groups. Margaret Sanger would have been proud of the effects of her legacy. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by raydawg on 08/30/16 at 15:09:07 765148574D6E4C5B4D525B473E0 wrote:
.......................................................... You're right JoG. Hypocrisy like that, on that scale, affecting so many people worldwide is disgusting. An alien from Mars might look over to Earth and wonder about humanity, and it's outrageous hypocrisy. The alien will note the conflict (literal and ideological) between the religions. The wars for God, for greed.... Would the alien be surprised to find that the 'Western hemisphere' say they follow a God that teaches "Thou shalt not kill" but they have the largest armies, defence spending, arms manufacturing, (by a huge margin) ? The West's 2nd in command, spiritually speaking, teaches about "turning the other cheek" but the alien just watches their devastating aggression around the globe. The alien then thinks he missed an 'episode of his Earthwatch viewing delights' as he fails to see where either, eg, the UK and USA were invaded or suppressed by military might..... by Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, or any 'Eastern hemisphere' nation. That, folks, is hypocrisy.... as I discovered when the alien put down his Earthspeak phrase-book/dictionary. And it's a whole lot bigger than Hillary vs Donald. [/quote] I so agree with you Hov, man has co-opted truth, and bent it to his UNDERSTANDING.... However, I will question you merely on my perception of many replies/remarks you have made re: religion/faith, that you extend to yourself, and understanding, based on the actions of those who USE that avenue ( religion and faith ) with devious actions/results. ISIS being a good current example, how it consumes so much energy and attention, with misguided beliefs, toward those who hold no REAL commonality with these criminals. Not that it's not current and on display with other religions, no, that is as alive and well as it has always been. I wish I could dialogue with you in person, for I sense someone who does use reason, tho like us all, tainted by perceptions and prejudice, but I believe you grasp a common understanding that I have re: faith, and that is its to better myself, not to judge others, put simply.... The golden rules transcend all civilized beings, as to think harmony exist by laws is folly, but sadly, adopted. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by HovisPresley on 08/30/16 at 15:30:59 "I so agree with you Hov, man has co-opted truth, and bent it to his UNDERSTANDING.... However, I will question you merely on my perception of many replies/remarks you have made re: religion/faith, that you extend to yourself, and understanding, based on the actions of those who USE that avenue ( religion and faith ) with devious actions/results. ISIS being a good current example, how it consumes so much energy and attention, with misguided beliefs, toward those who hold no REAL commonality with these criminals. Not that it's not current and on display with other religions, no, that is as alive and well as it has always been. I wish I could dialogue with you in person, for I sense someone who does use reason, tho like us all, tainted by perceptions and prejudice, but I believe you grasp a common understanding that I have re: faith, and that is its to better myself, not to judge others, put simply.... The golden rules transcend all civilized beings, as to think harmony exist by laws is folly, but sadly, adopted. " Nice post ;) 8-) I'd love to be able to spend time, a fishing trip with you where we could discuss/debate/chew the fat together, same goes for JoG, et al. It'd be a long ride home for me, though! |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by raydawg on 08/30/16 at 16:13:02 7A5D445B41624057415E574B320 wrote:
Just put more, a LOT more, air in your tires ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/16 at 16:44:32 Everyone uses reason. Reason is their beliefs based in their concept of reality. The concept of reality is what people SEE life is after they discount the propaganda that they are Cognizant of, and add in Their values, which may well be based in a bunch of Shoulds and ought to s, And then Their personalities get factored in... Everyone THINKS they are Reasonable and logical, and from Their position, they are. Sadly, the people who will change course after being Shown where the foundation of their belief system is insufficient is very low. I've changed the core beliefs of no more than four that I am aware of. Yet, those who sneer at me won't expose their precious minds to information that would challenge their thinking. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by raydawg on 08/30/16 at 17:33:19 4A555354494E7F4F7F47555912200 wrote:
Jog, its one thing to share, and then another to be invited..... I have found this to be a major factor, not only in making my own peace and serenity, but in using (sharing) myself wisely, and if I dare say, successfully. I don't take credit, as if I invented such, nor can I always maintain that sense of self assurance, respectively, but when I can, life, fills my needs in a manner I could never manipulate, on my own.... I shared this once, I believe you liked it, expectations are premeditated resentments.... Do you understand what I am saying? This format leaves so much out of conversing...... :-[ |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/16 at 17:45:35 Yeah, people are just Forever asking me to show them how wrong they are. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by raydawg on 08/30/16 at 18:21:56 352A2C2B3631003000382A266D5F0 wrote:
I'm sorry..... I think you missed what I was trying to say. Who wants to be told they are wrong, you? However, if you are a witness, to someone, who has observed you, and they ask a question like this: "Hey Jog, you seem to really have it together, etc, and I was wondering what makes life work for you?" Now you have been invited. Would you start out by saying, well, its because you are a friggin commie lib, eh? |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by LostArtist on 08/30/16 at 19:27:44 495650574A4D7C4C7C44565A11230 wrote:
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO ONE EVER ASKS YOU, YOU JUST VOLUNTEER IT TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL SUPERIOR. the whole appeal of Trump to people LIKE YOU JOG was that he was different, well, this is just ONE MORE THING where Trump has proven he's JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE in politics. while you yell at Hillary supporters for being blind, you are JUST as blind while saying you SEE better than the Hubble Telescope You are not superior or better, Trump is JUST LIKE EVER OTHER POLITICIAN, waiting to be bought and sold, and he'll buy and sell America out just like the rest of them, He'll sell to Putin, and once he meets some Saudi's, he'll take their money too. cause you know what, that's how the world is, THAT'S TRUTH. you want to live in some ideologically pure fairy tale you're going to have to move to Canada. THIS IS THE CAPITALIST EXTREME UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/16 at 19:40:44 You feel better now? |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by raydawg on 08/30/16 at 20:27:37 716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 wrote:
Be careful who you invite Jog ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 02:37:22 Hitlery ALREADY sold to Putin. See Russia access America's uranium Did she try to get it shut down? The president didn't hear a complaint, so, he wasn't gonna cancel the golf and do anything. She's a winner, alright. I feel safe.. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by HovisPresley on 08/31/16 at 05:56:49 504F494E53546555655D4F43083A0 wrote:
................................................ I feel that travel broadens the mind. Not some easy, simple, 2 week vacation, but diving head-first into foreign cultures, including conflict zones, religious hot-spots, staying with the locals (rather than hotels), learning to speak their languages.... Talk to people that have lived through Nazi occupation, Soviet occupation, see little kids begging in the street that have a limb missing (their 'parents' have disfigured them so they become more 'professional beggars').... Expose your precious mind to information that would challenge your thinking by exposing your mind to information that would challenge your thinking.... Reading internet conspiracy sites from the safety of Texas, then telling people on a Suzuki forum that they are closed-minded ain't a great start. PS. My apologies if you were in Vietnam, as I know other people here were. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 06:07:48 so the books I have been trying to get people to pay attention to are Conspiracy theory sites. You can shove it. I have explained too many times to even care that you completely mischaracterized everything I said. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by HovisPresley on 08/31/16 at 06:25:55 Okay, books not www sites. Personal experience gets my vote over printed matter. Books or internet sites, my point remains. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 07:39:27 So, the books I have tried to get people to look at, books about OUR education system, OUR banking system, OUR foreign policy, they shouldn't be read, because Travel, spending time in other countries, broadens the mind Better? Your point fell down. No matter what societies one invests years in, understanding the things that are done to forward an agenda and the people aren't told truthfully what is being done, those years of mind expansion will only help understand the society, not the goals of the policy makers. One of the books, Confessions of An Economic Hitman, is very illuminating. Nobody should even NEED for Charlotte Iserbyt to explain what happened to the schools. Not if they are over fifty. Nobody can MAKE that many mistakes and Not get something right once in a while. And what about Henry Ford? Was he a conspiracy theorist? Why did he say what he said about the federal reserve? Was Ike a conspiracy theorist? “Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”— Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, An Autobiography, 1913 (Appendix B) Woodrow Wilson Woodrow Wilson “A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men… [W]e have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.” – Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, The New Freedom, 1913 “7-Gifts “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” – Woodrow Wilson, 28th President But I am a goofball? What's wrong with people that they see the world through the lens created by propaganda rather than the observations and experience of their lives? I Watched the schools be sabotaged. They made changes and the results were negative. Rather than Undo what they had done, they demanded more money and power to make even More changes.. which, shockingly, Also resulted in lower performance. I am the only person I know who has read Any of Keynes book. It's so obvious that the system is a fraud in just three chapters that I threw it away. Creature from Jekyll Island is a good book. It's impossible to know if it's All correct, but it's easy to see that it is generally so. The list of countries that we Would invade, public, shortly after 9/11. And yet, the REASON for invading the recent ones are more recent than the list. How is that possible? |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by HovisPresley on 08/31/16 at 08:17:52 "So, the books I have tried to get people to look at, books about OUR education system, OUR banking system, OUR foreign policy, they shouldn't be read, because Travel, spending time in other countries, broadens the mind Better?" Not at all, ideally these books should be read. When you can compare your education system, your foreign policy to that in other places can you see things objectively and in perspective. Do I try and drill into people what your Noam Chomsky (for eg.) has said about your banking/foreign policy, etc? Then claim everyone who doesn't either read or take heed of what was written in those books as being a blinkered idiot? "I am the only person I know who has read Any of Keynes book." No, you are not. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 08:28:53 I don't NEED to be able to see that other countries POLICIES are equally stupid, less corrupt, whatever, in Order to understand that OUR ways are Damaging OUR country. If Noam would do honest research and deliver a solid piece of informative work, and everyone was happily just believing the lies of those who benefit from the system, then you would right in goading people to read it. Chomsky, however, I doubt has or will be doing that. I would appreciate it if the people of America would try to educate themselves on the workings of the world. It's NOT what we would believe based on what we learn in school. And I posted a few people who were historical figures, not known for their insanity, who SAID, things are not as they seem. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by HovisPresley on 08/31/16 at 08:55:31 "I would appreciate it if the people of America would try to educate themselves on the workings of the world. It's NOT what we would believe based on what we learn in school." Agreed. Same with the people in most nations. On a side note, I imagined you to be more a 'Friedman' than a 'Keynes' person. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 09:58:50 I wanted to understand the system we are using. Keynes literally Wrote the book. I understand Why the politicians were willing to go with it. The People, if they understood what the economic system is built on, would probably string them up. Im definitely an Austrian school of economics guy, but I read about Keynesian economics in order to understand what is happening. I don't Just read what supports my opinions. I read some of the wrong headed stuff to know how wrong they are. I see a lot of projecting going on here. Those who disagree with me, without even bothering to look at things that support my thinking, pretend that I am who I am because I'm brainwashed. Well, brainwashed is the state of the masses. But they are too far gone to grasp that THAT is the target of propaganda, the masses. It's the maverick who goes in search of the details and the facts, rather than just shrug and pretend that They are In the Know Because They understand that things are what the schools said, what the news says, it's all just simple and obvious. But what about the people who were historical figures, saying otherwise? I didn't know about them when I started down this road. What about the countries that we would invade, the list of names, but they didn't Need invading when the list was made public.. Ohh, well, the dumb masses won't figure That out. |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 10:45:49 http://consciouslifenews.com/verified-warnings-presidents-about-invisible-government-running-allegiance-people/1136001/ I had no idea about these people and their thinking when I started digging into the rods and levers that actually move to make things happen. People who don't know about the economic Hitman don't understand so much about Why we get involved in wars. No, I didn't Say that is the ONLY reason. People who don't want to see what happened to the schools have no hope of understanding the federal reserve, because they are equally sinister. Bots right about people and the emotional impact of realising that they have been duped. They will risk physical injury to avoid being forced to see the truth. I will readily admit that when my suspicions were shown to be correct and even worse than I had thought, I was physically out of whack for days. I can't imagine how bad it would be for someone who believed that everything that is wrong was simply the result of a long series of mistakes suddenly coming to terms with the truth. Gee, all the time and money spent on our schools. They suck. Our Best and Brightest Forge the trade agreements. They suck. We've been at war longer than ever, no end in sight, Does anyone even know Why anymore? I don't. Is Anyone ready to explain Why Henry Ford said It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. Henry Ford Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/henryford136294.html So, with so many people who have good reputations for not being stupid saying things that would make curious people stop and wonder, if you aren't wondering about things, wondering if you are seeing behind the curtain, or if you are so short sighted that you don't even see the curtain, is that why you get so unhappy with me? You don't wanna see so my pointing it out is irritating.? |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by thumperclone on 08/31/16 at 13:23:08 accusations with no solutions offered |
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Title: Re: Trump can't be bought... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 14:30:07 What do you suggest? Because I alone can't fix it that I should not show others? How CAN it be fixed, while the majority don't have a clue about what is wrong? That's Such a cheap dodge. It's been a long struggle to get people to see, so now, you see some problems, but since I didn't explain how to fix it, then just shrug and pretend you don't know about the problems. Why Learn about the problems if someone isn't handing out solutions, anyway? Accusations, my EYE, The situations are obvious. And the people credible. But WHO dragged it all out in front of all of you? Not your favorite TV news. Not your favorite website. So, it can't be real. |
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