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Title: WLM....... Post by raydawg on 08/24/16 at 05:15:10 Who's Lives Matter........ What drives the BLM movement? Do they feel underrepresented, disenfranchised, ignored? Is this what is leading them to act upon? Are we justified in taking matters into our own hands, as recourse? Is civil unjust and disobedience acceptable recourse? Is this recourse acceptable actions regardless of cause, and by whom? Is there some standard that must be met to allow leniency toward some, but not others? Is it right to isolate a cause under certain criteria, like race, gender, etc, but attack any opposition who respond against this cause with a "lumping" of those who label themselves accordingly? I think if we can honestly address these questions, we might uncover the motivation behind why people are voting for Trump.... The moment we extend liberties to ourself, but deny the same, to others, only conflict will result, from such actions. Why are we surprised? Have not the Black community been voicing their grievances for decades? Yes. Have many folk, including a white, middle class male, been voicing his feelings for years too? Do we just minimize him, and label him, like we did the Black race with the lowest common denominator, assigning it, with prejudice, to all Blackmen? This solves what? |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by Paraquat on 08/24/16 at 06:01:24 I don't know, but I'm going to set something on fire. --Steve |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by raydawg on 08/24/16 at 08:08:59 4475667565617560140 wrote:
Ah, a useful fool, is just a tool, until it burns down my business or house.... Then, and only then, will I be forced to call a spade, a spade.... However, I will not accept as fact that I dealt the cards, for no, that was NOT my intent, which is now excusable legal theory. It was only your house, I desired to see burn :-? |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by pg on 08/24/16 at 19:04:57 53405845405646210 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnCnCl1dCU [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnCnCl1dCU[/media] Best regards, |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by raydawg on 08/24/16 at 19:32:55 6374727E7161130 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnCnCl1dCU [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnCnCl1dCU[/media] Best regards,[/quote] Do you have any videos of crickets, or chickens? Seems no one cares to address my questions..... I wonder why? I feel so lonely, neglected, shunned.....minimized. Golly, I would even welcome a personal attack right bout now ;D |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by Ruttly on 08/24/16 at 20:53:06 You called, maybe someone would answer that mindless post if you paid them some $$ As posts go that was just crap ! I know you are more capable than than that last post proves ! Maybe your just getting old & boring Ray ! Guess someone just needs to tell you to shut your meally mouth ! I've always thought your views were distorted & often wondered if you were mentally challenged !! |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by raydawg on 08/25/16 at 03:51:12 311617170F1A630 wrote:
Whew...... its like a breath of fresh air on a hot summer night, thanks... But, you didn't explain why. Care to rebut? Don't you know that can get you dissed on this board if you lean right for such behavior? |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by Ruttly on 08/25/16 at 04:16:01 Well remember you axed for it. I work in Oakland CA I've been disappointed with BLM,at least when occupy would raise hell they would shut the port down for a day giving me a day off. But no days off with BLM. Just sick of BLM,wlm,alm.bom it's all a bunch of crap ! They are always looking for a new angle to be heard because they are not smart enough to do it in any other way,now it just makes themselves look like a joke. All Lives Matter should be the call ! As always Ray no disrespect intended , you called , Ruttly to the rescue ! You axed for it ! |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by raydawg on 08/25/16 at 05:14:24 0B2C2D2D3520590 wrote:
Ruttly, thank you for extending your view/thoughts. BTW, if I post/reply to anything, I do so willingly, and as such, I accept the consequences for having extended those viewpoints, as that is the very foundation of dialog..... I might chide, and use sarcasm as a tool, but I never expect, nor desire, censorship or ask that another persons extension of those rights, be deleted.... Ruttly, I think you missed the thrust of my point in referencing BLM. Because of the PC policies, we are expected to extend to this group considerations based on their POV, as legit. To question such, especially if you are white, means you are a racist, and not to be taken under consideration for your POV.... The left appears NOT interested in dialogue, but bullying and labeling those views that run counter to theirs.... It is a form of censorship, and extremely disingenuous, as ignorance is the only outcome of such behavior. Not sure how to read your personal example of what makes a movement a success..... Don't you get sick days? I am taking one tomorrow, as I am sick of working ;D |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by Ruttly on 08/25/16 at 07:53:42 Ray you were in need of attention & I never miss a chance to tear someone a new one, just having some fun at your expense. Politics & religion not my thing just stray to tall table when bored. I get sick days. In our labor contract if it is not safe to enter the port due to protests we get the day off paid for 8 hrs. Going crabbing ? |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by raydawg on 08/25/16 at 08:13:59 123534342C39400 wrote:
Love it, I do village idiot well, huh? ;D Prolly not. My wife bought a new reefer, as she was tired of the looks of the 2 year old one..... Women, geez, I think it might be easier to figger out libs, than women [ch128540] So I need to stay home and wait for delivery. I purchase a new aluminum fuel tank for the boat, as I think the cause of the crud getting into the carbs must rest with the steal one. Hope that arrives too, then I will install that :) Maybe now we can get a lib to field these questions I posed.... But I think they only enjoy accusing others of not answering their questions ;D Have a good day! |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by Serowbot on 08/25/16 at 08:58:49 okay,... Prejudice Yes Yes Sometimes Yes No Yes Yes We aren’t Yes Sure I didn't in first place Nuttin' Whew!!!!... :-? |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by oldNslow on 08/25/16 at 09:41:06 WHO'S LIVES MATTER ? Pretty much nobodys. According to the World Health Organization approximately 151 thousand people die every single day worldwide. Most days I don't know any of them so I don't care. Does that make me a racist? |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by Ruttly on 08/25/16 at 10:10:22 Demographics Please ! |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by MnSpring on 08/25/16 at 10:13:19 495F48554D58554E3A0 wrote:
So Bot, In response to Ray’s questions. This one: "Is it right to isolate a cause under certain criteria, like race, gender, etc, but attack any opposition who respond against this cause with a “lumping” of those who label themselves accordingly?” You said, ‘Yes’ to. OK, Understand, that ALL, people that practice the Muslim Faith, are Not trying to, KILL, all of us. But why is it then, that the, ‘Gun-Banners’, “LUMP”, ALL Gun owners, into the same pool? This one: “Is there some standard that must be met to allow leniency toward some, but not others?” You said, ‘YES” to. Please explain, WHO, is, ‘more special’, ‘who, should have more rights’, 'who, should have different rights’, Are those different standards, dependent on: Color of skin, race, religion? Do understand, a person, who has a mental or physical disability. Like a person, who cannot walk, and is in a wheelchair. (You have to walk up the steps to the Courthouse to testify) Or, perhaps, someone with diminished mental capacity, decides to walk on the freeway, simply because they did not know and/or, understand the law. (Give ‘em a ride to the next exit, and say, Don’t Do That) I Don’t understand, why, someone, Just Because of, “Color of skin, race, religion”. should be held to a different standard, than others. |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by oldNslow on 08/25/16 at 10:19:52 17303131293C450 wrote:
start here: ://www.reference.com/world-view/many-people-die-day-world-b5a2258c374cba57# |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by WebsterMark on 08/25/16 at 11:36:25 2E3D25383D2B3B5C0 wrote:
1) Greed, boredom, lack of awareness 2) They feel that way in the same manner puppy love feels like real love 3) Yes, they’re wrong, but yes. 4) Whose hands are you talking about? Do you mean we should run rioters over if they’re blocking the street? 5) Yes, it’s always been that way. If the cause is just, the participates will sacrifice to move the cause forward. 6) No, there are limits. 7) That’s like pornography, I’ll know if someone is due leniency when I see it. 8) That’s the liberal playbook. See history of Clarence Thomas 9) To that, I politely say F you. 10) Oh yea? Extend the same liberties you have to convicted child molesters. 11) Yes, and they've been supporting Democrats the entire time 12) Not always. For the most part, we just go about living our lives. 13) only if he's a Republican or conservative. Democrats and liberals are put on pedestals and we are suppose to understand his shortcomings are not his fault, but ours. |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by oldNslow on 08/25/16 at 12:23:25 76484945574B4A240 wrote:
start here: ://www.reference.com/world-view/many-people-die-day-world-b5a2258c374cba57#[/quote] fixed the link I think: https://www.reference.com/world-view/many-people-die-day-world-b5a2258c374cba57 |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by raydawg on 08/25/16 at 12:36:49 I like the way you parsed this, thanks! Web, I think the ORIGINAL motivation by BLM was based on the frustration, and REALIZATION, that the liberals were only paying them lip service. Let's use a recent post/reply where Bot states as fact that over 90% of the Blacks will vote for Hillary. As a white guy claiming such, as if they know they have them Colored folk locked in.....you know, cuz none have the ability to think for themselves, so we fool one, we fool them all, mentality. I found his remark extremely telling, and ACCURATE as to what the liberal whites really think..... Talking with Black co-workers, this is mostly how they feel too. Also, they ( my co-workers ) believe they are being USED by the media, to perpetuate a stereotype, using the White cop, Black kid, to sell advertising, etc, and have no real dog in the fight. Why does it seem that civil disobedience, demonstrations, rioting, etc, is an avenue of expression by the less educated and more dependent on government assisted lifestyle, than the blue collar 9 to 5 person? |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by Serowbot on 08/25/16 at 14:43:54 Dawg,.. have you noticed whenever you ask "questions", they're actually declarative statements followed by a Question mark?... This is why I rarely answer... You already have your mind made up and stated within the question. So, it's actually just baiting... |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by WebsterMark on 08/25/16 at 14:56:18 Web, I think the ORIGINAL motivation by BLM was based on the frustration, and REALIZATION, that the liberals were only paying them lip service. Nope. BLM took off after the Michael Brown thing gave punks an excuse to riot. As soon as some slightly smarter thugs realized there was money to be made off of protesting the least of the things that made themselves 2nd class citizens, (police brutality) they pushed the narrative. As you can tell, I give BLM absolute zero credit for anything constructive. It's an loose organization of thieves using people who have been conditioned that living in poverty, squalor and violence is an acceptable way of living. Then the whites who missed their chance to protest the real wrongs of the 60's thought it would be hip to drive 45 minutes to the getto and walk around carrying clever sign joined in the fun. After a 'protest' aka riot, they could head back to the burbs and their artsy/fartsy bars so they could munch on overpriced appetizers and drink Coronas with limes. |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by raydawg on 08/25/16 at 15:32:42 1107100D15000D16620 wrote:
Bot, I think that is your perception. I know I ask questions based on the hope of gathering more information from different perspective. But of course the question will be asked from my own perceptions, prejudice, etc. It is one place where this type of exchange fails for body language is a great source of reading a persons intent, etc. All of us, lacking that, have to try and extend our understandings, which really isn't that easy, I believe. Thanks for what I believe was an honest input ;D |
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Title: Re: WLM....... Post by MnSpring on 08/25/16 at 17:02:10 7E687F627A6F62790D0 wrote:
Really, ‘Baiting’, Really ???? I Whole Heartily disagree. In Fact, I had to print out raydog’s post, (questions), to match them up with you, ‘cryptic’, Yes/No, (answers). (Reply #14) And NO Where did I see the word, “ I “. I saw, ‘what’, and ‘is’ a lot. They were, QUESTIONS. Just like, raydog, asked questions about how a person purchases a firearm. From a standpoint of, “Been Their-Done That", (And STILL DO), I Answered. With the FACTS, NOT, the Lies the Media tout. Yes, raydog and I, disagree, on voting for a 3rd party, Because in Nov of this year, it is Pointless. Perhaps in 4 years it will work, but Not now. But, he is, ‘Baiting’ ????????? NO. Perhaps, it is, if a poster, agrees, with your position, it is Not Baiting. But if they don’t, than it IS ? So, In Post # 14, where I, ask you questions. Do you ALSO, consider that, 'Baiting' ? |
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