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Message started by xxlron on 08/14/16 at 12:20:39

Title: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by xxlron on 08/14/16 at 12:20:39

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I have 5.0 volts on the starter side of the solenoid/ before I press the starter button. Looking at the manual, the
small gauge black wire that comes off the same post goes to the igniter, so that should not be a back feed situation. I have a bad solenoid right? It is not retracting all the way, right? I guess I need to just pull all the wires and test it on its lonesome. That far away from firing this puppy up, if the carb and petcock don't leak.....05 with new cyl head, piston, rings, valve springs, seals & new gaskets, cyl head plug, chain conversion, new cam chain ...etc...etc.

Title: Re: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by norm92de on 08/14/16 at 14:07:59

My bike reads 0 volts at the starter side of the solenoid.

Title: Re: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by xxlron on 08/14/16 at 15:32:51

Thanks for checking. Disconnected it...all but the 12 volt battery side, still 5 volts on the starter side. Energized and get 12 on both but goes back to 5 instead of zero when un-energized. Bad. Wonder if that had anything to do with the starter magnets being destroyed when I acquired the bike.

Title: Re: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by Happybandit on 08/14/16 at 21:36:40

I am having a very similar problem. Instead of 5v, I was reading about 2.5v on the starter side. My bike wouldn't always start. I pulled my starter and had the same issues as you described. I have a new solenoid and starter on the way. I went through 2 batteries recently. I wonder if this had something to do with it. Just my thoughts.

Title: Re: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by xxlron on 08/15/16 at 05:57:44

Was yours showing that 2.5 with the key turned to run, or in the off position as well? Glad i checked mine with the meter before i hooked it up to the starter. Yes , that would be a constant drain on the battery if it did it in the off position. With mine at 5 volts constant while running, im sure the stater cooked , deformed, and destroyed the magnets. Previous owner said it didnt work when He got it. So just bumped.it off for 2 years, till the belt broke.....

Title: Re: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by xxlron on 08/16/16 at 05:56:31

Hey Happybandit. Put my new solinoid on and still get voltage on the starter side. So did some research. Main question was , why does the wire ( black) come from the majic s_it box to the starter side of the starter solinoid..........evidently, after you turn the ignition to RUN. You will have voltage there , that has something to do with cbanging the voltage.durning startup. Im going to hookup to the starter and try it. Old schoolguy, i want no voltage.on that side unless im hitting the starter.button. was looking at a inline diode.there but would be wrong , i guess. Anybody else get voltage on that post with key at run? Without hitting the start button ? And yes , do get 12 + after pressing thd button. To magical for me.

Title: Re: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by verslagen1 on 08/16/16 at 07:20:49

Let me get out the Ouija board...
R.. E.. T.. A.. R.. D..
S.. T.. I.. M.. I.. N..
G..

I wonder what that means... No good at scrabble.

Title: Re: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by xxlron on 08/16/16 at 14:42:08

Yes , MR V.....timing retarded . ..then the voltage went away on the starter pole after the mofo started, which was just before both neighbors called the police about the loud noise. Damm shame, but guess ill put a muffler on it. Trust in the majic poo box.

Title: Re: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by hotprops on 08/18/16 at 09:59:05

i thought the timing was fixed and not adjustable

Title: Re: Starter solenoid Bad?
Post by Dave on 08/18/16 at 10:06:16

5453484C4E534C4F3C0 wrote:

i thought the timing was fixed and not adjustable

There is no manual adjustment, you just bolt the parts together and the spark advance is at the factory settings.

Evidently the spark is retarded a little bit when the starter button is pushed.......and there is likely an advance curve that varies with rpm as well.