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Title: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by SavageRiderTN on 08/11/16 at 21:11:18 Has anyone used the 6Sigma carb kits? I just ordered one for my 02 and was just curios what everyone's experience was. http://www.6sigmajetkit.com/ |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by striknein on 08/11/16 at 21:27:59 Wouldn't it have been better to ask before you ordered? You could have saved 10 bucks by getting Lancer's kit. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Ruttly on 08/11/16 at 21:49:20 That's cool a newbie telling a newbie what's up. Lots of good people & info here , ask first , that's why we are all here. Check with lancer & Versy in the market place |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by striknein on 08/11/16 at 21:53:23 07202121392C550 wrote:
I'll stop posting if that's what you think is best. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by cheapnewb24 on 08/11/16 at 22:03:34 If you need jets, you can buy them off Ebay cheap. For the needle just get some #4 washers. Why does everybody think they need "kits?" Now if those kits include custom needles or something special like that, then that's different. Do you need that kind of stuff? It doesn't sound like Ruttly is really saying anything bad. :-? He's sorta agreeing with you. :-? |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Serowbot on 08/11/16 at 22:33:11 5E79787860750C0 wrote:
Sigma gives long distance jetting advice for a price... We give it for free... ... but, realistically,.. you jet for your own riding.... If you don't want to put in the time,... I'll say 150/50 main/pilot, and a 2/3 spacer... For instance,..Standard K/N filter,.. Sporty muff,.. but home ported exhaust... I live at 2,600ft... ..but, I often ride out of town between 4,000 and 9,000ft... It gets really hot here.. it's usually very dry... I rarely ride in rain, but when I do, it's monsoon... Temps can vary 30 to 40f morning to evening... I likes curves, and tend to ride up a gear... My town is 40 miles across.. I can be stuck at 20 lights in 100f.. or just 3 or 4 in another direction... Sigma can't jet that... I can't jet that.. I have to choose based on when I think the best average will be most useful. I hope Sigma does you good... but, you can only really be sure by trial and error... jet up, jet down,.. find what suits best... At least 3 pilots and 3 mains to play with... I have a tuning guide in the Tech Section... |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Ruttly on 08/12/16 at 06:44:16 Striknien , Dont ever stop posting its your freedom of speech. We welcome everyone's opinions. There are some here myself included that are ruff around the edges. Welcome ! OK guys he's ready ! |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Kris01 on 08/12/16 at 19:11:23 6166607B797C777B7C120 wrote:
You haven't read much of Ruttly's posts before, have you? ;D Don't take it personally. We all mean no harm! |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Kris01 on 08/12/16 at 19:14:14 SavagerRiderTN, where are you located? I'm in TN too. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Ruttly on 08/12/16 at 21:30:53 Kris , I thought I was somewhat polite & encouraging , but honest. Am I one of those cyber bullies? Hope I didn't run him off for good. My bad ! I like to practice my freedom of speech. Wait till JOG gets to him,OMG |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Ruttly on 08/12/16 at 21:34:17 My personal favorite posts was the guy with the "3 year plan" boy was I on a roll ! |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Kris01 on 08/12/16 at 21:55:21 Meanie! ;D |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by cheapnewb24 on 08/12/16 at 23:13:07 644342425A4F360 wrote:
Yeah... ;D |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by cheapnewb24 on 08/12/16 at 23:14:05 57707171697C050 wrote:
Ruttly, what are you talking about? Post a link. I'd like to see it. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Ruttly on 08/13/16 at 08:00:03 Sorry Newbee I'm not a computer geek don't know how to link Rubber side down , page 10 , three year plan Best I could do ! See I don't just pick on you ! I pick on everyone ! |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by verslagen1 on 08/13/16 at 08:41:47 linking is not hard... goto the post you want to link, copy the address bar, go back to where you want to link it and reply, paste, post. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1466392164/15#16 The number at the end is the post number you want them to see. another method is to quote the offending post, copy it, and paste it here in a reply... 446362627A6F160 wrote:
Now ruttly, even you aren't too old to learn a new trick. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by cheapnewb24 on 08/13/16 at 08:44:23 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1466392164/0 Wow... I thought I needed to use the url button. Now I have a great shortcut. Just paste it in there! |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Ruttly on 08/13/16 at 10:09:04 I work with big chrome wrenches newbee don't own a computer just a iPhone & iPad and don't know much about urls & copy paste files stuff ! |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by cheapnewb24 on 08/13/16 at 13:27:38 url is another name for a web address. Hold down (2 buttons at the same time) CTRL and X for cut, CTRL and C for copy, CTRL and V for paste. Not sure about phone. Might work for iPad, who knows. It's crazy useful. Just click and drag to highlight some words, push those buttons to copy it and then click the area where you want it (assuming it's a place you're allowed to write on) and paste it . Cut is like copy but it moves the words instead of copying them and only works when you're allowed to actually edit (move or delete) the words (i.e. your own post). Copy works for nearly any text. You can instantly take notes from nearly any webpage. I'm going to guess that your iPad and phone have ways of copying and pasting. You just have to find 'em. Once you get good at it, you may wonder how you lived without it. Apple stuff tends to use the "command" button for some stuff, so if ctrl doesn't work, you can try that. And, yes, it works for files too. ;) |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by SavageRiderTN on 08/20/16 at 20:43:09 29100B115253620 wrote:
I'm about 30 miles west of Nashville. Dickson,TN. Where are you? Good to see someone "local"! |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by SavageRiderTN on 08/20/16 at 20:49:32 687E69746C79746F1B0 wrote:
Sigma gives long distance jetting advice for a price... We give it for free... ... but, realistically,.. you jet for your own riding.... If you don't want to put in the time,... I'll say 150/50 main/pilot, and a 2/3 spacer... For instance,..Standard K/N filter,.. Sporty muff,.. but home ported exhaust... I live at 2,600ft... ..but, I often ride out of town between 4,000 and 9,000ft... It gets really hot here.. it's usually very dry... I rarely ride in rain, but when I do, it's monsoon... Temps can vary 30 to 40f morning to evening... I likes curves, and tend to ride up a gear... My town is 40 miles across.. I can be stuck at 20 lights in 100f.. or just 3 or 4 in another direction... Sigma can't jet that... I can't jet that.. I have to choose based on when I think the best average will be most useful. I hope Sigma does you good... but, you can only really be sure by trial and error... jet up, jet down,.. find what suits best... At least 3 pilots and 3 mains to play with... I have a tuning guide in the Tech Section... [/quote] Thanks for the reply! There was something about the Sigma sight that made me feel good about ordering their kit. I do realize though that tuning is definitely going to be necessary. Trial and error to a degree for sure. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Kris01 on 08/21/16 at 09:05:39 5E6C7B6C6A685F6469687F59430D0 wrote:
I'm about 30 miles west of Nashville. Dickson,TN. Where are you? Good to see someone "local"![/quote] Memphis/Fayette County area |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by pam on 08/23/16 at 07:50:44 can someone post a link to lancers kit..... please |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by KennyG on 08/23/16 at 08:29:25 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1338581006 |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by SavageRiderTN on 08/23/16 at 19:34:50 576572656361566D606176504A040 wrote:
Quoting my own post here. I installed the 6Sigma kit last week. I removed the air box and added a giant K&N air filter in its place (which I will change at some point). I also removed the muffler and fabbed up my own turn down. It looks and sounds great! Best of all, it performs awesome! I went to a 160 main jet and a 55 primary. 2 spacers in place of the TEV. 3 turns out on the air mix. The difference in performance is significant! Big difference in power all the way through. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by SavageRiderTN on 08/23/16 at 20:22:52 I also did the Raptor petcock swap too. This completely took care of the surging I had a steady throttle. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Kris01 on 08/23/16 at 21:01:37 774552454341764D404156706A240 wrote:
You are running WAAAY rich! That main is 4 sizes up from what I'm using and we're at roughly the same altitude. See my sig. At 3 turns out, you are in danger of losing your screw. I think the accepted max is 2.5 turns out. If you have to go more then you need a smaller pilot jet. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by SavageRiderTN on 08/28/16 at 18:23:01 It may be a tad bit rich, but I gotta tell ya this dude runs amazing. All of the popping everyone is always talking about is completely gone! The difference in power is VERY noticeable. It idles great too. Power is there all the way through from low to high speed. Before making the change, my bike really didn't like running 65-70 mph at all. It was way too lean. Tonight I ran back on I-40 at 75-80 comfortably without the bike sounding like it was about to fly apart. I'm not sure if I mentioned, I'm running no air box (very large K&N filter) and no muffler either. I fabricated a turndown off the header pipe. There has been a definite change in fuel economy but I'll accept that in exchange for the way it runs. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by SavageRiderTN on 08/28/16 at 18:40:43 I also put just a small dab of RTV behind my mix screw to make sure it wouldn't back out |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by Dave on 08/29/16 at 04:37:42 122B302A6968590 wrote:
You are running WAAAY rich! That main is 4 sizes up from what I'm using and we're at roughly the same altitude. See my sig. At 3 turns out, you are in danger of losing your screw. I think the accepted max is 2.5 turns out. If you have to go more then you need a smaller pilot jet.[/quote] At 3 turns out.....the tapered tip of the needle is no longer in the hole, and it is not doing anything. If you need to turn the screw out more than 2.5 turns....you need a "smaller" pilot jet. And I agree....the jets that are installed in this bike guarantee that it is running waaaay too rich. "2 spacers in place of the TEV".....what you talkin' about Willis? Did you put 2 washers in place of the white needle spacer.....or did you do something to eliminate the TEV (Throttle Enrichment Valve)? (The TEV is a diaphragm on the right side of the carb and the cover is held on by 3 screws). To determine what pilot jet you need and what mixture screw setting is best.....it is done by ear. If you can turn the mixture screw all the way in and the engine still runs....your pilot jet is too big. You need to set the idle speed just a bit low in order to make the adjustment, as a 1,000 rpm and above idle speed makes it impossible to do the mixture screw adjustment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxpQjDQzX7g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm5mB3R8Ucw |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by SavageRiderTN on 09/17/16 at 20:59:04 7B404D5A4B475C5A4149445B280 wrote:
You are running WAAAY rich! That main is 4 sizes up from what I'm using and we're at roughly the same altitude. See my sig. At 3 turns out, you are in danger of losing your screw. I think the accepted max is 2.5 turns out. If you have to go more then you need a smaller pilot jet.[/quote] At 3 turns out.....the tapered tip of the needle is no longer in the hole, and it is not doing anything. If you need to turn the screw out more than 2.5 turns....you need a "smaller" pilot jet. And I agree....the jets that are installed in this bike guarantee that it is running waaaay too rich. "2 spacers in place of the TEV".....what you talkin' about Willis? Did you put 2 washers in place of the white needle spacer.....or did you do something to eliminate the TEV (Throttle Enrichment Valve)? (The TEV is a diaphragm on the right side of the carb and the cover is held on by 3 screws). To determine what pilot jet you need and what mixture screw setting is best.....it is done by ear. If you can turn the mixture screw all the way in and the engine still runs....your pilot jet is too big. You need to set the idle speed just a bit low in order to make the adjustment, as a 1,000 rpm and above idle speed makes it impossible to do the mixture screw adjustment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxpQjDQzX7g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm5mB3R8Ucw [/quote] Been gone for awhile and not able to post. To clarify I used 2 washers for the "white spacer mod". I am going to try to lean out my air mix a little and see what happens. I have to be honest though, aside from lower fuel economy what is the downside to running rich? I have put around 400 miles on the bike since I made the changes and it runs so much better. Unless it is black smoking or fouling plugs there really isn't a downside. |
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Title: Re: 6Sigma Carb Kit Post by batman on 09/17/16 at 21:22:52 running rich can cause carbon build up( combustion chamber,valve stems) and wash the cylinder walls and piston rings(wear!) |
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