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Title: Try reading this story..... Post by raydawg on 07/23/16 at 08:51:12 As I shared earlier, I found this guy to be the best speaker I heard at the convention. Read and share your thoughts, please  :) http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-peter-thiel-really-supports-trump-1469226823

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Title: Re: Try reading this story..... Post by raydawg on 07/23/16 at 09:04:33 4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 wrote: I'm not subscribing.. Free link at realclearpolitics  ;)

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Title: Re: Try reading this story..... Post by raydawg on 07/23/16 at 10:20:59 The Wall Street Journal BUSINESS WORLD Why Peter Thiel Really Supports Trump Trump expands the boundaries of the sayable. His existence lights a fuse under the status quo. Business World Columnist Holman Jenkins on why the Silicon Valley billionaire really supports Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump. Photo credit: Getty Images.       By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr. July 22, 2016 6:33 p.m. ET For a Trumpian nonbeliever, the most interesting speech of four days was always going to be technology superinvestor Peter Thiel ’s. The Silicon Valley wunderkind and early Facebook backer is known for his singular diagnosis of American ills. The undersea cities, flying cars and three-star restaurants on Mars we promised ourselves in the optimistic early ’60s haven’t materialized. Outside of infotech, the rate of American innovation and progress is very much less than we like to tell ourselves it is. In the world of bits, deregulated entrepreneurialism prevails. In the world of atoms, not so much, thanks to overregulation and politicized risk aversion. Six years ago, Mr. Thiel explained why this was a disaster for Americans: “In a world where wealth is growing, you can get away with printing money. . . . In the ’30s, the Keynesian stuff worked at least in the sense that you could print money without inflation because there was all this productivity growth happening.” In today’s world where technology is failing, printing money is “not going to work” and “you probably have to get rid of the welfare state.” Mr. Thiel at the time foresaw a “grim Malthusian politics,” a period of “long-term stagnation,” leading to a “near revolutionary situation” in the U.S. It’s a view (increasingly shared by secular stagnation theorists) that he has continued to elaborate in speeches and interviews ever since. So if Mr. Thiel this week gave himself the job of speaking for a candidate whom many of his Silicon Valley friends and peers frankly revile, one readily supposes the reasoning went like this: The Valley sees Trump as anti-trade, anti-immigration, and nothing in Mr. Thiel’s speech suggested Mr. Thiel is anti-trade, anti-immigration. But Mr. Trump is a wrecking ball at a time when Washington needs a wrecking ball. It needs a candidate whose very existence forcibly disrupts its ways and patterns. Even Mr. Trump’s vulgarities, his reprehensible impulses (kill the innocent family members of terrorists), his dangerous suggestions (decide when the time comes whether to uphold NATO’s guarantee of the Baltics) might seem virtues, in a sense. They expand the boundaries of the sayable. Of course, making so counterintuitive a case in a convention speech isn’t practical, especially when doing extra duty as a representative of gay outreach. So Mr. Thiel contented himself with saying that he supported Mr. Trump because Mr. Trump “is a builder.” He harked back to the 1960s, when government was competent—it got us to the moon in less time and for less money than it takes today to repair a bridge. Every industrial city was a Silicon Valley, because businesses everywhere were innovating and investing. We need to recover that spirit. Today’s fights about gender-bathroom assignment are a distraction. “Who cares!” You had to know where Mr. Thiel was coming from to know where he was going with his support of Mr. Trump. Few voters did. Yet the job Mr. Thiel gave himself is an important one. The Republican convention has now wrapped up. Those immune to histrionics and heavy breathing have only one question: Will Mr. Trump mount a fall campaign equal to the task of returning a Republican majority to both houses of Congress? Even voters sensitive to the many ways that Donald Trump has given lip to an agenda that likely would do more harm than good can see him as a gift of providence. He’s here to scare the bejesus out of the establishment. Mr. Trump fulfills this role even if he loses by a smidgen to Hillary Clinton. Mrs. Clinton and the GOP House and Senate leadership of Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will be left acknowledging a near-run thing. Mrs. Clinton will have no second term, no legacy; Mr. Ryan will have no hope of the presidency; Mr. McConnell will finally fall to the Tea Party types who have been gunning for him so long—unless they make the deals that begin America’s renewal. Mr. Trump’s own speech, give him credit, was a masterful if lengthy exposition of his nationalist-Peronist viewpoint: America is a nation of lovely people of every creed, ethnicity and sexual orientation beset by murderous illegal aliens, Islamic terrorists and the predatory trade practices of other countries. At least gone was the impractical and dangerous idea of rounding up 11 million illegals and deporting them (instead Mr. Trump would slow new arrivals to a trickle). In every other way, Mr. Trump sticks to a diagnosis that blames non-Americans for America’s problems. We wait to find out how this plays with the American voter. Politically, Mr. Trump piles his chips on a high-risk, all-or-nothing gamble. He seeks to ignite a populist prairie fire that will burn a path to the White House. He does not engage in the tactical (and expensive, media-wise) base broadening that most presidential campaigns engage in. All or nothing, of course, is also the Trump strategy most likely to end with a Hillary landslide, with Democrats inheriting all three branches and trying to cure America’s malaise with bigger government and more redistribution. If Mr. Thiel aligns himself with a handful of base-expanding Wall Streeters who also have endorsed Mr. Trump as a blower-upper of the status quo, this fear is probably partly why. Anything else I can do for you jog  ;D

Title: Re: Try reading this story..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/23/16 at 12:56:38 Nope, good stuff, thanks..

Title: Re: Try reading this story..... Post by Serowbot on 07/23/16 at 13:25:22 This bit is interesting... (I had to Google what "Peronist" means.)...(basically, it's a Corporatist)... "Mr. Trump’s own speech, give him credit, was a masterful if lengthy exposition of his nationalist-Peronist viewpoint:" Try this for more of Thiel's ideology... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcxbyfhcp0M&index=5&list=PLDIVi-vBsOEyETRGoRP9y8zhyu6bHl6iK [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcxbyfhcp0M&index=5&list=PLDIVi-vBsOEyETRGoRP9y8zhyu6bHl6iK[/media]

Title: Re: Try reading this story..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/23/16 at 14:05:11 Yeah, you want a great insight? Do you know what an Early twentieth century progressive is? Sniff that out.. Eugenicist, and several other unsavory character flaws. WE are where the Nazis got much of their ideology. Was Nazi eugenics created in the US? www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › PMC1299061 by GE Allen - [ch8206]2004 - [ch8206]Cited by 2 - [ch8206]Related articles War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create A Master Race by Edwin Black ... a cause célèbre among historians of science working in the field of the history of eugenics, many of ... Eliminating the Inferior: American and Nazi Sterilization Programs ... Ferris State University › isar › archives Note: This article is based on chapter five of Dr. Mehler's dissertation, 'A History of the American Eugenics Society,' ... Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection - SFGate SFGate › opinion › article › Eugenics-an... Nov 9, 2003 - American eugenics advocates believed with religious fervor that the same Mendelian The left “Ideas so good we have to make them mandatory.” Because nobody wants what they call good, but, since they are the Smart ones , hey,, accept it.

Title: Re: Try reading this story..... Post by raydawg on 07/23/16 at 15:21:39 The guy who wrote the story reports he is not a Trump supporter, but, the line where he says Trump is a wrecking ball intent on bringing down the status quo, which, would explain all the networks, including FOX, and Wall Street, etc, being afraid of how much he might raze.... I love it, not the man, but the idea of destroying this broken system that favors only the aristocracy!

Title: Re: Try reading this story..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/23/16 at 16:03:35 I'd be a LOT happier if Trump had written that speech.

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