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Title: How stupid Are you? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/13/16 at 16:51:21 Gun Facts | Gun Control Facts Concerning Concealed Carry www.gunfacts.info › gun-control-myths Fact: After passing their concealed carry law, Florida's homicide rate fell from 36 % above the national average to 4% below,. ... to 91% after such laws went into effect, and injuries dropped by over 80%. Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar: report - Washington Times Washington Times › news › jul › murder... Jul 14, 2015 - The number of concealed carry handgun permits has skyrocketed since President Obama was first ... In Florida and Texas permit holders are convicted of misdemeanors of felonies at ... Is violent crime lower in states with open carry? | PolitiFact Florida PolitiFact › statements › oct › matt-gaetz Oct 9, 2015 - "In the states that allow open carry, violent crime was 23 percent lower. ... that would allow concealed-carry permit-holders to openly carry their ... Comparing states on violent crime rate. Why Concealed Carry Could Not Have Caused the Two-Decade Dip In Crime Rates - The Trace https://www.thetrace.org › 2015/10 › low... Oct 12, 2015 - Gun rights advocates claim concealed carry is the answer to .... data from every county in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, .... know what caused the big two decade drop in crime rates. Concealed handgun permits have no impact on crime rates - Vital Record - Texas A&M Health Science ... https://vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu › conceale... Sep 23, 2015 - Concealed handgun permits have no impact on crime rates ... in four states: Texas, Michigan, Florida and Pennsylvania. ... Do concealed carry rates reduce crime? ... to a variety of factors that have lead to the drop in crime, ... [PDF]recent report - Crime Prevention Research Center crimeresearch.org › uploads › 2015/07 Jul 16, 2015 - Concealed handgun permit holders are extremely .... The violent crime rate was 32 percent lower. ... increases in permits had the biggest percentage drop in murder ... Florida: the percentage of permit holders who are women ... What One Recent Study Found About Murder Rates and Concealed Carry Permits Is Likely to Make Gun Owners Smile | TheBlaze.com TheBlaze › stories › 2014/07/10 › what-... Jul 10, 2014 - ... out a drop in murder and violent crime rates during this same ... The number of concealed carry permits issued compared ... 2014, Florida has issued permits to more than 2.64 million ... Do concealed weapon laws result in less crime? - The Washington Post Washington Post › post › 2012/12/16 Dec 16, 2012 - ... pistols from a concealed-weapons permit class in Florida. ... No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is ... are a slam-dunk reason for why crimes have decreased. Florida firearm violence hits record low; concealed gun permits up - Naples Daily News Naples Daily News › news › state › florid... Jan 6, 2013 - The Firearm-involved violent crime rate has dropped 33 ... in the nation — Florida boasts the most concealed weapons licenses in the nation, according to a July 2012 federal report. Chicago: Drop in Crime as Concealed Carry Applications Surge - The New American www.thenewamerican.com › usnews › item Aug 25, 2014 - The figures reveal that Florida gun owners have the most concealed carry permits, at 1.3 million, with ... |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Ruttly on 07/13/16 at 20:22:57 Someone call me ? |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/13/16 at 22:23:13 Depends.. You Believe in people being armed? |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Serowbot on 07/14/16 at 00:52:32 No Ruttly,... JOG meant me... Even after he just got all butthurt about Dawg calling him stupid... .. but guess what?.. Dawg meant me too... I've been called stupid several times today.. ...and I'm Web's resident "girl thingy,".. . ...not to mention Dawg's very disturbed homoerotic obsession... ... but guess what?... I'm still here... ...I am an opposing view... can you handle that?... like an adult?... I have been PM'd by many here... and quietly smoothed over tender feelings...(often by directing attacks toward myself with sarcasm or humour, rather than bare the wrath I receive when I actually MODERATE)... ...but, I grow tired... Can we be a little more adult?... ...or do you still need my nanny supervision?... Keep in mind,.. insults you direct to me, I accept voluntarily... I do not have to take this...(I have buttons you don’t have, that I use very sparingly) (You cannot imagine the shite I have tolerated and PM's I have received)... It's up to you... grown ups,.. or children?,,, Can I have day,... in which I can participate, as an adult with an opposing view?. Not a punching bag?.... It's no wonder to me that Trump has a voice... He speaks for the darkside of bitterness... |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by raydawg on 07/14/16 at 03:37:06 And that folks is a perfect example how a person broadcast HIS perceptions, based on HIS prejudice, to someone else, as a fact...... Assigning to others, what he won't accept in HIMSELF, and then decrying, like the lil' piggy who whined all the way home. The word of the day kids is: Delude note: wonder if this post gets deleted too, because it will be a personal attack on the little piggy as a whiner? Extra point word of the day: snivel ;D |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/16 at 05:15:11 No, bot, that was aimed squarely at Ray.. I didn't realize he was being sarcastic . Someone accuses libertarians of being All over the place On topics. Actually, we are pretty unwavering. It's just that most people aren't able to see the common point of freedom. |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/16 at 07:43:13 And yet, the question remains. Common sense would tell anyone that if you're in a place where a bad person is, you would have a better chance if you could defend yourself. And, crime stats Show a drop in gun crime where it's Legal to carry. The Insane Lone Gunmen are So Insane that they locate Gun Free Zones to go crazy In. Doesn't Sound too crazy there. So, the Pay attention to the SCIENCE crowd manage to sidestep the SCIENCE when it disagrees with their agenda. And wonder why people get tired of showing them Why they are wrong. I'm ready to see people realize that they are not Thinking for themselves. It's time to face the facts. You Saw a problem and wanted to see things be better and followed a Nice Sounding answer. Ban Guns. But if that's possible, WHY are drugs so prevalent? They have been banned for decades. I know, nobody will address this,because this is a logical argument and you're defending an emotional position that can't stand on its own merit. |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by cheapnewb24 on 07/14/16 at 07:58:48 How has firearm restrictions worked in... say... London, England? |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by raydawg on 07/14/16 at 08:04:14 "Common point of freedom"' Dang, I like that idea as a foundational implement, but am weary some won't understand the commonest, still pulling the rope to their side and complaining about sore muscles ;D |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/16 at 08:20:17 43484541504E4557421214200 wrote:
Well, you tell me.. but understand first, We are the sovereign, they are Subjects. We have rights, they have privileges, that are at the whim of government. And, again, drugs are BANNED, right? How many Bans have worked? Just ban shooting people . Ohh, wait.. Alcohol was banned, right? And how did that work out? It Created a criminal element. A black market. We banned drugs. And? How many times do people need to see what happens? |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/16 at 08:22:19 43484541504E4557421214200 wrote:
Well, you tell me.. but understand first, We are the sovereign, they are Subjects. We have rights, they have privileges, that are at the whim of government. And, again, drugs are BANNED, right? How many Bans have worked? Just ban shooting people . Ohh, wait.. Alcohol was banned, right? And how did that work out? It Created a criminal element. A black market. We banned drugs. And? How many times do people need to see what happens? And, WHY , considering the stats, would Anyone want to Ban guns? Unless someone just Wants to be at the mercy of tyrants.. |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by old.indian on 07/14/16 at 08:33:51 In this nation the laws are there to protect the citizenry from criminals, bullies and tyrants.... 8-) |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Serowbot on 07/14/16 at 09:10:30 37282E2934330232023A28246F5D0 wrote:
Why?... Considering the stats?... England has 200 shooting a year. America has 30,000... Gee, I can't think of any reason... Clearly,.. gun laws don't work...::) ...and for all your "sovereign/subject" rantings... It is a distinction without a difference... We are both representative democracies... Equally free, just less dead... |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Paraquat on 07/14/16 at 09:17:52 3B38307A3D3A303D353A540 wrote:
Where? The Bureau of Land Management moved in on farmers, and no one protected them. Big Pharma is poisoning people, no one is protecting them. There are any number of injustices that are being ignored. Starts to feel like you're being targeted. --Steve |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/16 at 09:20:36 ..and I'm Web's resident "girl thingy,".. . You mean like a boob?.... |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/16 at 09:23:27 5B6A796A7A7E6A7F0B0 wrote:
Where? Big Pharma is poisoning people, no one is protecting them. --Steve[/quote] "Big Pharma" had kept me alive on the past. Not sure who they're poisoning.... |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Serowbot on 07/14/16 at 09:39:05 447671606776615E726178130 wrote:
auto sensor... ;D I was referring to your belief that compassion for others is being "pussified"... |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Ruttly on 07/14/16 at 09:48:48 Yes I believe everyone should have two arms. |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Serowbot on 07/14/16 at 09:52:40 46616060786D140 wrote:
Bare arms... ?... :-? http://www.destinationsdreamsanddogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/th.jpg |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by old.indian on 07/14/16 at 10:13:15 60636B2166616B666E610F0 wrote:
Does no one know a sarcastic remark when they see it ? :-[ |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Ruttly on 07/14/16 at 10:16:04 I think government knows revolution is coming and want civilian population disarmed , I need my arms !!! |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/16 at 10:16:30 786E79647C69647F0B0 wrote:
Why?... Considering the stats?... England has 200 shooting a year. America has 30,000... Gee, I can't think of any reason... Clearly,.. gun laws don't work...::) ...and for all your "sovereign/subject" rantings... It is a distinction without a difference... We are both representative democracies... Equally free, just less dead...[/quote] But you don't have any desire to go look at the places Where the dead get dead and see how much the gun control laws don't help. That would challenge the beliefs. You're welcome to disarm yourself. |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by MnSpring on 07/14/16 at 10:23:06 Serowbot Said: " ... England has 200 shooting a year. America has 30,000..." Typical, compare apples to oranges. The violent crime rate in the UK is 3,100 per 100,000, in the US it is, 380 per 100,000 population. OK, Take the stats, of CAR, accidents in the US. Now, Ban all cars. Tomorrow, their are NO, CARS, on the road. Will the stats, of accidents, by, Foot, Bicycle, Motorcycle, Trucks, stay the same? Or will they go up, so the stats overall, will be the same? It is SO Simple. Walk into a, 'Gun Free Zone", and do what you want. Because NO ONE HAS A WAY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES ! AND Serowbot Said: "... It's no wonder to me that Trump has a voice... He speaks for the darkside of bitterness... ..." Just after he tells everybody: " ...or do you still need my nanny supervision?..." When, if someone else would say, 'Hillery Lies, and it has been Proven, several times". The, 'child', would peek it's head around the tree. |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Ruttly on 07/14/16 at 19:39:27 Must be very painful to disarm yourself , what a mess ! |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by Ruttly on 07/14/16 at 19:41:03 Maybe I'll become an illegal arm dealer ! |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/16 at 19:54:56 I was referring to your belief that compassion for others is being "pussified"... That's not my belief. I think you are confused my friend. Giving whatever is asked of you under the mistaken idea that how you show compassion is not only wrong, it's potentially dangerous or harmful. Parents for example discipline children in order for them to succeed, not fail. That's a pretty good example of compassion don't you think? |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by raydawg on 07/14/16 at 20:05:00 704245545342556A46554C270 wrote:
It's called enabling, which leads to depenancy, and codepenacy..... Both recognized by health professionals as a mental illness. |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by HovisPresley on 07/15/16 at 21:38:11 Hi MnSpring, nice to see you back :) http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/ |
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Title: Re: How stupid Are you? Post by WebsterMark on 07/17/16 at 05:52:58 I'm not going to search around or do the math, but I suspect if you took the crime stats from a few zip codes for each major US city out of the numbers, the stats for the US fall in line with "civilized" Europe. I've spent a little bit of time in European and Asian cities and one big difference I noticed is there are no vast differences in races to the degree you have in the US. Religious affiliation is mostly similar as well, or lack of religion that is. Everyone looks the same in Tokyo! That's not an Asian joke by the way. Now that, due to immigration, the racial/religious make up of thses cities are changing, and I would expect, unfortunately, to see gun crimes start ticking upwards in civilized Europe. |
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