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Title: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by sauvage on 06/29/16 at 05:55:30 Greetings. I am looking for a chart with engine speeds in various gears. I have checked out http://www.gearingcommander.com but they only have an LS650 '87-94 which only lists 4 gears, rather than 5. Also what engine speeds should I keep the bike under till I hit 1600kms, after which I presume that I can open her up a little more. thx |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Dave on 06/29/16 at 06:16:47 Didn't you get an owners manual with the bike? It most likely has the recommended speeds for the break in period. Here is a 5 speed chart....in mph. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1341162964 |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Serowbot on 06/29/16 at 08:04:00 Breaking in,.. I'd keep it under 70mph... don't try for any 1/4 mile speed records,... and vary the throttle (try to avoid long steady cruising)... Using some engine braking to slow the bike helps seat the rings, too... |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by sauvage on 06/29/16 at 08:10:48 OK thanks for the thread link, I searched but I did not find. Yes it does have the break in speed recommendations but it does not detail the rpm however after having a second look at it they have a recommended maximum rpm but I was wondering how they expected you to know seeing as it does not have a tacho, but I see now that their maximum rpm must correlate to their maximum suggested speed, that was not obvious to me at the time. I've redone one of the charts in kph FFIW. |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by RaleighGuy on 06/29/16 at 08:33:10 I never paid much attention to how fast I was going. I never really thought about what gear I was in, either. I just listen to the engine. If it sounds too fast, I change to a higher gear. If it sounds slow, like it's bogging down slightly, then I switch down a gear. ;) |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by sauvage on 06/29/16 at 09:06:34 @RaleighGuy, Yeah, I'm with you on that one, however after the bike is fully broken in, I'd like to almost redline it through the gears occasionally. |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Dave on 06/29/16 at 09:22:45 I am not sure how/why 6,500 rpm has been established as the redline rpm on the Savage. Advertising shows that the maximum HP on a stock engine occurs at 5,400 rpm, and the maximum torque at 3,400 rpm - but where is 6,500 rpm documented as the Official Suzuki approved redline? |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/29/16 at 09:39:23 152E2334252932342F272A35460 wrote:
I'm certain that the fillings in my teeth would fall out at 6500 rpm. I don't know what the redline is, but find the vibration above 5000 rpm obtrusive. I've owned plenty of single cylinder four-stroke bikes that didn't have a tach, most of them told you well in advance when they were approaching redline by the vibration and loss of power due to valve float. The exception was my YZF250 would would happily rev beyond redline, except the electronics stopped the party. |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Dave on 06/29/16 at 09:49:54 My engine is not stock....and it easily revs up to 7,000 rpm in the lower gears and is still pulling - but I don't go there often and shifting to the next gear seems prudent. It isn't vibrating horribly at those rpm....but full throttle acceleration is noisy and does shake the handlebars, mirrors and footpegs...and the engine is far smoother at 4,500 rpm and lower. It could be the stock cam/head/piston just doesn't get enough air moving through the engine. |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by sauvage on 06/29/16 at 09:57:02 32090413020E151308000D12610 wrote:
It is the maximum recommended engine speed in the owner's manual. |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Dave on 06/29/16 at 10:17:11 30223635222426430 wrote:
It is the maximum recommended engine speed in the owner's manual.[/quote] OK....my bikes have all been used....and didn't come with an owners manual. (How are your supposed to know when you reach 6,500 rpm without a factory tachometer?) |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by verslagen1 on 06/29/16 at 10:23:18 You can get an owners manual in the tech section, find it in the index. Factory tach... ROFLMAO |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/16 at 14:07:36 It's time to change gears when you feel the acceleration drop off. Redline schmedline, the Get there Now is changing gears and staying in the power that is accelerating you. It will tell you when to change gears. |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Ruttly on 06/29/16 at 15:15:15 1st redline,2nd redline,3rd redline,4th redline,5th redline,slowdown for curves ,back on the throttle,brakes good,tires fair, lines on the road look like dots , telephone poles look like a picket fence Now yer cookin with Gas !! |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/16 at 15:35:45 I didn't know that the point of the throttle was to test the connecting rod. I thought it was to bring the engine to max power that translates into acceleration and then grab a gear. If Redlines are the goal you're going to be looking at brake lights. |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Kris01 on 06/29/16 at 19:31:05 56445053444240250 wrote:
Where? |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Kris01 on 06/29/16 at 19:31:23 . |
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Title: Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Post by Ruttly on 06/29/16 at 20:14:50 Oh Justin your so critical. My bike has no tach and its tuned quite well I'm going by feel & sound. I know it revs up around 7 pulling beyond that, pulls beyond where I don't feel comfortable taking it. Think I'm going to dump speedo for a tach, trying to get it to the dyno guy but can't get any days off. Had many SR500s that went to 7500 and Yamaha says redline is 7000. I just wanted to undo what Suzuki did to detune this engine, ya know make it breath not build a hot rod,now it's obvious that Suzuki made the Savage a putt putt for women & beginners & short legged old men. But yet the bike attracts us to it. I just let her hair down and hung a set of nuts on her. So she got to meet dr. dyno and then a date with 1320 ft of drag strip. Don't know what I did other than throw money at it, but she rocks, I only hope I can reproduce the outcome on my next Savage ! |
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