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Title: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by RaleighGuy on 06/29/16 at 04:45:49 I'm not 100% sure if this discoloration is called Bluing or not but if anyone has the time to look at this, I've got a couple of questions concerning this exhaust pipe. First, I'll assume that the top of the pipe is called the header but please correct me if I'm wrong. So I've been looking through all the old "Tips and Tricks" posts and found one that mentioned Blue Away for taking care of blue header pipes. Is that what is happening here to mine? The reason why I'm asking is because it's not really blue. And my second question is, assuming I can get some Blue Away and take care of this ugliness, how can I prevent it from happening again? Are the pipes just getting overheated? Thanks for any help you can give me on this topic. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/16 at 05:04:22 Blipping the gas at idle will do that. A generally lean condition will do it. Mine made 5,000 miles, with stock everything, and it was an 05 model. I blued it listening to the valves.. And Boy that ticked me off. I got used to it.. You Can clean it up, but it's gonna be back unless you can change something... It's not ugly, it says I am a motorcycle and I get ridden. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by Dave on 06/29/16 at 05:12:27 Anything that gets the pipe hot will cause the blue to appear faster. Idling while not moving, idling/riding with the choke on, high speed runs in hot weather, etc. I have not used Blue Away....I have used Blue Job. It is a white powder that you dampen a small piece of cloth that comes with it, then you dip it in the cloth and rub really hard. It does remove the discoloration....and the more you rub the more of the yellow/blue goes away. The color change (yellow/blue) is oxidation of the chrome surface. The hotter it gets the darker blue the color. Using the Blue Job you are actually scrubbing off the discolored layer....and making the chrome layer thinner. It won't hurt anything to polish it once in a while - but do it too often and you will scrub the chrome away. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by Struch on 06/29/16 at 05:32:09 You also can rap the pipe and dont worry about it ;D but so far how I know gold coloration is a beginning of the problem :( |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by RaleighGuy on 06/29/16 at 05:34:07 Justin_o_guy2 said: "Mine made 5,000 miles," JOG, that's one of the reasons I was concerned because my 2012 only has 1,100 miles on it. It seemed pretty weird that it would already be showing discoloration (again, with as little as I know about exhaust systems). But I guess being fairly new to me, I'm just trying to get everything as clean as possible. And Dave, thanks for the advice. I must grudgingly admit that I'm guilty of the occasional, completely pointless REEEEV of the motor at stop lights when there are people in their cages staring at that "odd-looking, single cylinder bike next to us". I'll see if I can get some Blue Job off Amazon and apply it as sparingly as possible. Sounds pretty straight-forward. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by Dave on 06/29/16 at 05:40:01 If you spend a lot of time sitting in traffic....that could be a reason your pipe is turning color. My bike has 8,000 miles on it....and no color on the pipe - I live in the country and never sit is traffic (except when Oldfeller or MMRanch drags me through Pigeon Forge). |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by sauvage on 06/29/16 at 06:13:27 I have just over 1000, kms on the s40 and the header is yellowing up a bit, and a small amount of bluing near the flanges. This would have been set up for Australia at sea level (presumably). I have heard that these bikes are often set up on the lean side, but I'm not sure how much faith I can place in that. With normal riding, not sitting in traffic boiling the engine, does this bronzing tend to indicate a lean condition. Recently got 190kms on a tank of gas, not counting reserve. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by Serowbot on 06/29/16 at 08:10:54 If you take it off,... and conditions are same afterwards, it will just come back... My pipe is half blue/black from heat... I ride in 100f plus, in traffic, and through 7,000ft elevation changes... I've learned to embrace the beauty of pipe discolouration... It shows people that I actually ride... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by sauvage on 06/29/16 at 08:23:52 @Serowbot, I agree I quite like the look of the bluing pipes, I was only concerned if it might be an indicator of excess heat and/or overly lean. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by ohiomoto on 06/29/16 at 08:34:51 The car tuner kids pay extra to have their exhaust tips done up like that. You know, the tips that are ~15 feet away from the header? ::) Personally, I don't mind it one bit. I'm more concerned with the condition that caused the blue than the blue itself. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by SugarBoogers on 06/29/16 at 15:37:16 Mine's way, way worse (14k miles) than that and I could care less. It's not going to stay new forever. Years ago people said the pipe colors had to be the right ones, and if not it meant doom or at least trouble. AFAIK if it's too lean for your taste, you can change the carb jet to richen the mixture, which will help the motor to run cooler and it's better for it that way. Don't ask me about it though I haven't gotten to that part yet. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/16 at 16:29:17 40524645525456330 wrote:
A study of the stock jetting down through the years compared with the EPA regulations for MPG and emissions will make it obvious. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by Kris01 on 06/29/16 at 19:34:59 A straw color is fairly normal, even if the pipe is never overheated. An almost black pipe means the owner is having a little too much fun! ;D |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by WD on 06/29/16 at 20:09:27 My pipe matches my bike, black with hints of blue and purple...[ch128520] Rear pipe is painted flat black, that keeps getting scorched from use. The front section is heat discolored, with extra "character" courtesy of the head leaking oil like an old Brit twin or Shovelhead. I've even burnt the coatings of the engine and rear exhaust brackets. I ride it often, commuter duties, backroads, and interstate. Bike is still too lean with 150/50 jetting, lost my spares, so will just keep on keeping on. Bike purchased spring 2014 with 7500 miles on it. Odometer shows 21k or so, but did not work for 16-1& months of that time, real miles are over 40000. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by RaleighGuy on 07/05/16 at 04:11:27 665D5047565A41475C545946350 wrote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Dave, the Blue Job worked great. After 5-10 minutes of patient scrubbing, the pipes are shiny and brand new looking. I'll try to remember to use it sparingly. Now if I can do something about this small dent in my gas tank.... :o |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by KennyG on 07/05/16 at 06:37:12 Guy, Sometimes you can pop a small dent out of a gas tank by shrinking the metal with dry ice. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by RaleighGuy on 07/05/16 at 09:11:54 Yes, I was reading that fact in the "Tips and Tricks" section here last week. I think there's a Kroger nearby that sells dry ice for a pretty cheap price. I'll try it when I have the time to drain the tank some weekend. Thanks, bud. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by Kris01 on 07/05/16 at 18:33:41 3620372A32272A31450 wrote:
Yep. It's a never ending battle. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by zipidachimp on 07/07/16 at 02:13:24 Ceramic coating is $50, blue stays away. Black or Silver! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by RaleighGuy on 07/07/16 at 06:28:23 043D263C7F7E4F0 wrote:
Yep. It's a never ending battle.[/quote] ---------------------------------------- That might be the case that it simply begins to appear again but since I've just bought this bike a couple of weeks ago, I'm not sure what the previous owner might have done to cause it. If they just revved it a lot at lights and let it idle for 10-20 minutes at a time, it won't happen to me like it did with them. And zipidachimp, a ceramic coating sounds pretty cool. I think I'd like the black coating on it. I wonder where I could get that done. :-? |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by zipidachimp on 07/07/16 at 13:17:35 Ceramic exhaust coating is done by some hot rod shops. Ask around your hotrodder community. The colour not available is 'gloss black'. I've had mine for a year with no change in appearance. The silver is like a 'semi-gloss' chrome. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/16 at 15:40:18 Blue Away Sounds like an over the counter antidepressant. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by RaleighGuy on 07/08/16 at 11:59:12 Funny, JOG. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by stewmills on 07/09/16 at 09:52:33 Cleaned my pipe today for the first time. I am at 6500+ miles and this is all original. Not too bad, but likely due to lean jetting and mixture until I learned how to work on the bike and such. Blue Job did pretty good, but I will note that I didn't scrub the living snot out of it either. The bronzing didn't really bother me, so I figured if I could knock a little off, why not. Left=before Right=after |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/16 at 10:01:15 If you can control the desire to hear it rumbling at a light it'll tend to stay clean better. Mine was showroom sparkly bright until I sat and racked it off listening to valves at 5,000 miles. |
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Title: Re: Will "Blue Away" work here? Post by Kris01 on 07/09/16 at 11:56:07 This chart may not completely apply to the header color but it's probably close enough to understand what's really going on. The hotter the header gets, the darker the color. http://www.stormthecastle.com/blacksmithing/images/blacksmithing-color-chart.jpg |
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