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Message started by welshpete on 06/15/16 at 12:54:13

Title: 18" rear wheel
Post by welshpete on 06/15/16 at 12:54:13

ok, so i've been plundering my workshop and a mate's garage and i've got a set of mudguards (fenders) and some handlebars, seat etc to turn a savage into a 1940's style bike. i dont have the bike yet but i like to prepare! are there any retrofit 18" wire wheels that will fit or is it a case of lacing an 18" rim to the existing hub? any clearance or belt issues?  thanks in advance for any abuse/advice.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 13:05:06

There is Nothing Wrong with starting your book collection with a shelf and set of book ends.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by welshpete on 06/15/16 at 13:55:29

your point being...?        

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by LANCER on 06/15/16 at 13:56:00

There is Nothing Wrong with starting your book collection with a shelf and set of book ends.


;)

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by welshpete on 06/15/16 at 14:02:49

although, if you bought the books, where would you store them without a shelf? chicken/egg?

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by Dave on 06/15/16 at 14:08:07

I don't know if any of the Suzuki GT bikes....or the T500 could be used.  Good wheel/rims of that era are a bit hard to find in workable condition.

Here is a link to a really nice bike in the Build Section.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1369527081/0

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 14:10:36

A book, is A start. Not really hard to put A book somewhere.
I'm envisioning a place now.
The need to find a way to criticize what I thought was a gentle and supportive reply.  Wow..

What the cluck?

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by welshpete on 06/15/16 at 14:15:15

thanks, thats kinda the look i'm aiming for. i want to keep the belt drive though.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by welshpete on 06/15/16 at 14:17:22

hey justin, dont get all sensitive on me! british wit is often laced with a hint of sarcasm..   no offence meant.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 14:59:37

Yeah, I had a good friend who was into British humor. He tried to get me to understand,,, I'm just not tracking.. I Tried, I really tried. I did get

Run Away, Run Away...

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by Ruttly on 06/16/16 at 10:15:34

Here's a straight answer , you may have swingarm clearance issues depending on tire size of new 18" rim. Easy to modify swingarm. Or what do the call it over there a swinging yoke or something like that.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by Kris01 on 06/16/16 at 11:47:59


504F494E53546555655D4F43083A0 wrote:
Yeah, I had a good friend who was into British humor. He tried to get me to understand,,, I'm just not tracking.. I Tried, I really tried. I did get

Run Away, Run Away...


Monty Python, right?  ;D

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/16 at 15:53:37

Yep,, Python..and that's all I got.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by ohiomoto on 06/17/16 at 07:01:03

Does anyone know what size/length spokes we need to lace up an 18" rim?  

Any good sources?  

Thanks,

Tim

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by Dave on 06/17/16 at 16:57:12

Buchanan spoke and rim.......in CA.

They make them in stainless.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by ohiomoto on 06/21/16 at 07:05:16

Thanks, I assume they know the length or do I need to measure the hub?

Also, looking at 2.15 and 2.50 rim widths.  Probably going to 110/80-18 dual sport tire or 120/80-18 street tire.  

Any suggestions?  Will I need to modify the swing arm with those sizes?

Ryca says we have 26" of clearance before swing arm modification.  I believe both of those tires are under 25.5".

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by Dave on 06/21/16 at 07:27:41

You just tell Buchanan that you have an S40/LS650....they already have the statistics for the Savage hubs.

You should be fine if you follow RYCA's suggestions - problems do occur when you get vintage tires that are tall and have flat tread profiles.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by batman on 06/21/16 at 15:40:27

I don't understand the need to go to an 18 inch wheel to attain the look , WD and I have with the stock wheel. If you're wanting higher gearing it would be easer/cheaper to do the kawa front pulley converstion to keep the belt.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by Dave on 06/22/16 at 03:10:11


7271647D717E2428100 wrote:
I don't understand the need to go to an 18 inch wheel to attain the look .


We all have our quirks about what we like.....I don't understand putting struts on a bike to replace the shocks!

I changed to an 18" wheel as I wanted a Cafe' bike.....not a cruiser.  The 18" rim is a bigger diameter, the tire is far less "beefy" and looks right on the bike.  Going to a 140/90-15 would get about the same OD - but it also slows down the handling and just looks wrong on a bike that is supposed to be light and nimble.

Next time I am changing the rear wheel...maybe I will throw on a spare 15" wheel and tire that I have and snap a comparison photo....maybe even go for a ride and see what it feels like.

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by ohiomoto on 06/22/16 at 03:49:46


6162776E626D373B030 wrote:
I don't understand the need to go to an 18 inch wheel to attain the look , WD and I have with the stock wheel. If you're wanting higher gearing it would be easer/cheaper to do the kawa front pulley converstion to keep the belt.




For me, this has nothing to do with taller gearing. Personally, I think the Savage is an ugly duckling sportster wannabe.  It's just not my style, but I like that it's a simple, under powered, reliable thumper.  The perfect bike for my wife and two sons learn on and perfect commuting bike for myself.  I purchased the bike for the purpose of turning it into something I think is cool.  It's a matter of what you like. I like old British bikes, early Japanese models with skinny tires and dirt bikes.  

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by ohiomoto on 06/27/16 at 08:54:30

Is our 19" front rim a 2.15 or a 2.50??

I'm leaning towards a 2.15 for the rear if the front is a 2.15.  I'm fine with the width for my rear wheel, but I surly don't want my rear rim to be narrower than the front.  

Title: Re: 18" rear wheel
Post by Dave on 06/27/16 at 10:56:52

The stock front rim is 2.15" x 19"

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