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Message started by KennyDK on 06/13/16 at 07:34:44

Title: blow fuses
Post by KennyDK on 06/13/16 at 07:34:44

Hello my new Savage drive fin for to days, then I stop for 1 hour and then the problem start.

when I turn the key gren light go on, but when I hit the starter butten I only here en "klonk" from the starter and the fuses are blow out..
and I replace the fuse and it doo Again and Again.

where doo I have to look ??

regards Kenny (Denmark)

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by Dave on 06/13/16 at 08:03:48

Well you have developed a short somewhere.

If it only happens when you use the starter button....then the starter circuit would be the place to begin looking.

I would disconnect the small wire to the starter solenoid that comes from the stater circuit....and see if the fuse blows with the stater solenoid disconnected.....if the fuse doesn't blow with the solenoid out of the system - that would indicate that your solenoid might be at fault.

If the fuse blows with the solenoid disconnected - that would indicate you have a short somewhere in the circuit coming from the starter button.

You didn't say what year your bike is - but it appears the yellow/black wire to the starter solenoid is the same on all years.
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Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by KennyDK on 06/13/16 at 08:46:53

The bike is a 1999 model

I disconnet one small wire from the solinoid and the fuse blow Again.

soo the starter and the solinoid are NOT the problem ?

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by verslagen1 on 06/13/16 at 09:08:46

Have you done any mod's or repairs to it lately?
Or is it completely stock?

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/13/16 at 09:13:44

557B7070675A551E0 wrote:

The bike is a 1999 model

I disconnet one small wire from the solinoid and the fuse blow Again.

soo the starter and the solinoid are NOT the problem ?

I would agree that you isolated starter and solenoid by removing the wire, as long as you don't allow the wire to touch anything.

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by KennyDK on 06/13/16 at 10:14:29

I just buy it 3 dags ago, its stock.

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by verslagen1 on 06/13/16 at 10:27:06

The best method I've seen so far for tracking down a short is to replace the fuse with a light bulb.

The wattage of the light bulb will limit the current, so it won't be enough to run the bike.
Disconnect the starter and decomp solenoid.
push the starter button and wiggle the wires.
look for smoke ;D

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by KennyDK on 06/13/16 at 11:12:35

this is getting harder and harder :D what does this meen ?

"and decomp solenoid."

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by verslagen1 on 06/13/16 at 11:22:06

If you haven't taken the tank off yet now is the time to...

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Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by KennyDK on 06/14/16 at 09:53:35

update: I took the starterkabel off, still it blow fuse, så not the starter..

I took the sidestand switz off, same result

I test the solenoid under the seat and its working fine..

soo I like too take the startebutten on the handelbar of, but I can`t see where the kabel ends, and I need too now which kabel a have too "hotwire"

regards and sorry for my poor English ::)

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by verslagen1 on 06/14/16 at 10:03:43

The right control cable ends under the tank on the right side.
But, the starter button runs to the clutch safety.
Pull the connector on the clutch lever, if it still shorts out, then it's in the right control.

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by KennyDK on 06/14/16 at 10:59:32

:) :) :) I put the light out and it came alive .. the Bike can`t have the light onn when I push the starter butten, but when it`s running is no problem..

But there most be a problem somewhere, but for now Im smilen like a child :D

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by stewmills on 06/14/16 at 11:28:50

The light can't be on to start the bike, or can't be on BRIGHT?

Are you unplugging the light or a fuse from the harness when it does start? Reason I ask is because our bikes (as best I know) can never have the headlight turned off by any buttons or switches for safety reasons. It's always on unless you pull a fuse or unplug a harness, or worst case blow your headlight bulb.

Just asking to help others understand your findings and help you out properly with any other guidance.

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by verslagen1 on 06/14/16 at 11:36:05

what is the wattage of the headlight and what are the wattage of the fuses?

headlight should be 55/60
fuses should be 20

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by KennyDK on 06/14/16 at 13:09:52

414657455F5B5E5E41320 wrote:

Mabey is diffrent in Europa, on the right handlebar there is a butten for the light.
I tjek the headlight tomorrow a now my fuse are too big is a 30 amp.

Great forum this one I have reading all night for tree dages. :)

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/14/16 at 13:18:24

but for now Im smilen like a child ...

Knowing a bit about what joy that is,, that's just super cool ..

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by verslagen1 on 06/14/16 at 13:39:57

604E4545526F602B0 wrote:

Great forum this one I have reading all night for tree dages. :)

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;D

Title: Re: blow fuses
Post by Armen on 06/14/16 at 13:56:09

Don't know if this helps, but when I went to Suzuki Electrical school in the late '70s, someone asked what blows fuses, and the teacher replied "Oversexed electrons".
::)
-Arrmen