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Title: Gone......??? Post by raydawg on 06/12/16 at 10:49:18 Was webs posted removed?

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/16 at 10:54:47 Which one?

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by WebsterMark on 06/12/16 at 11:18:50 I just noticed that and sent Sew a note. I'm hoping it was an accident. I was making the point that Isamic terrorist made a mistake shooting up a gay night club, that it's like clubbing baby seals. Any support you had is out the window after you do that. Obama and Dems can pretty much ignore French journalists and "regular " night club attendees but mess with the gays and all hell will come out of the White House.

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by Serowbot on 06/12/16 at 11:23:14 Sorry Web,... got tired of  Dawg's B*shite... Feel free to restart the thread...

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by raydawg on 06/12/16 at 11:44:45 5C4A5D40584D405B2F0 wrote: Sorry Web,... got tired of  Dawg's B*shite... Feel free to restart the thread... Oh, if I differ than you, it's BS.... How tolerant. Let's see if John wants a new " free and safe zone" board where you are 100% welcome to express your emotions, feelings, beliefs and ideas..... As long as they dove with Bot's. Gotcha. Sorry Jog, as you can see, it was my fault  ::)

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/16 at 12:11:59 Well, I already Knew that, man.. While I am out hunting for My GL, I'll be looking for you a bit of that, too.. I'm guessing it's about the Radical Muslim Terrorist who shot up the gay bar, killing fifty, wounding fifty three... I'm aware that this one is a Raised in America Muslim, recently sworn to ISIS. This will be another Call to Sanity and Reason gun control. I propose that the patrons should have been able to have been armed, making going in there an unknown quantity for the shooter. Instead, it's just a box of targets,, defenseless people.. They keep us Safe, taking freedom away from us.. And what happens when only the bad guys have guns? Innocent people get shot. This is just the beginning of what the Muslim Extremists will do to America, and IDIOTS believe that we Should import more.

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by raydawg on 06/12/16 at 12:16:51 3C2325223F3809390931232F64560 wrote: Well, I already Knew that, man.. While I am out hunting for My GL, I'll be looking for you a bit of that, too... LOL...... Glad you caught the humor intended  ;D

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/16 at 13:11:56 Of course,  I said it was well played.. I thought it was creative and funny.

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by pg on 06/12/16 at 14:27:17 OK Bot, before the original post was erased their was something about Christians.  Regarding recent history which is to say the past 50 years, please elaborate on when Christians have killed scores of non-believers in accordance with their religious beliefs.   Best regards,

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by Serowbot on 06/12/16 at 14:46:23 Wiki... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Quote: United States See also: Anti-abortion violence in the United States and Terrorism in the United States Contemporary American Christian terrorism can be motivated by a violent desire to implement a Reconstructionist or Dominionist ideology.[98] Dominion Theology insists that Christians are called by God to (re)build society on Christian values to subjugate the earth and establish dominion over all things, as a pre-requisite for the second coming of Christ.[99] Political violence motivated by dominion theology is a violent extension of the desire to impose a select version of Christianity on other Christians, as well as on non-Christians. After 1981, members of groups such as the Army of God began attacking abortion clinics and doctors across the United States.[100][101][102] A number of terrorist attacks were attributed by Bruce Hoffman to individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, including the Lambs of Christ.[103] A group called Concerned Christians was deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999; they believed that their deaths would "lead them to heaven".[104][105] Eric Robert Rudolph carried out the Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996, as well as subsequent attacks on an abortion clinic and a lesbian nightclub. Michael Barkun, a professor at Syracuse University, considers Rudolph to likely fit the definition of a Christian terrorist. James A. Aho, a professor at Idaho State University, argues that religious considerations inspired Rudolph only in part.[106] Terrorism scholar Aref M. Al-Khattar has listed The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (CSA), Defensive Action, the Montana Freemen, and some "Christian militia" as groups that "can be placed under the category of far-right-wing terrorism" that "has a religious (Christian) component".[107] In 1996 three men—Charles Barbee, Robert Berry and Jay Merelle—were charged with two bank robberies and bombings at the banks, a Spokane newspaper, and a Planned Parenthood office in Washington State. The men were anti-Semitic Christian Identity theorists who believed that God wanted them to carry out violent attacks and that such attacks will hasten the ascendancy of the Aryan race.[108] In 2011, analyst Daryl Johnson of the United States Department of Homeland Security said that the Hutaree Christian militia movement possessed more weapons than the combined weapons holdings of all Islamic terror defendants charged in the US since the September 11 attacks.[109] In 2015, Robert Doggart, a 63 year old mechanical engineer, was indicted for solicitation to commit a civil rights violation by intending to damage or destroy religious property after communicating that he intended to amass weapons to attack a Muslim enclave in Delaware County, New York.[110] Doggart, a member of several private militia groups, communicated to an FBI source in a phone call that he had an M4 carbine with "500 rounds of ammunition" that he intended to take to the Delaware County enclave, along with a handgun, molotov cocktails and a machete. The FBI source recorded him saying "if it gets down to the machete, we will cut them to shreds."[111] Doggart had previously travelled to a site in Dover, Tennessee described in chain emails as a "jihadist training camp", and found that the claims were wrong. Doggart pleaded guilty in an April plea bargain stating he had “willfully and knowingly sent a message in interstate commerce containing a true threat” to injure someone. The plea bargain was struck down by a judge because it did not contain enough facts to constitute a true threat.[112][113] Doggart stood as an independent candidate in Tennessee's 4th congressional district, losing with 6.4% of the vote.[114] He has a number of degrees from a degree mill and an ordination from an ordination mill. Various Muslim groups have declared Doggart a terrorist, though none of the charges against him are terrorism related.[115][116][117][118] In November 2015, Robert Lewis Dear killed three and injured nine at the Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado.[119] Dear voiced on several occasions his support for radical Christian views and interpretations of the Bible, and praised people who attacked abortion providers, saying they were doing "God's work." He also described members of the Army of God, a loosely organized group of anti-abortion Christian extremists that has claimed responsibility for a number of killings and bombings, as heroes.[120] In May 1991, Dear was arrested and convicted in Charleston, for the unlawful carrying of a "long blade knife" and illegal possession of a loaded gun.[121] A woman who was married to Dear from 1985 to 1993 told NBC News that Dear had targeted a Planned Parenthood clinic before, by putting glue on its locks, and had a history of violent behavior. In the court document for their 1993 divorce, his ex-wife said, "He claims to be a Christian and is extremely evangelistic, but does not follow the Bible in his actions. He says that as long as he believes he will be saved, he can do whatever he pleases. He is obsessed with the world coming to an end."

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by pg on 06/12/16 at 15:05:59 You were able to produce 6 names out of a population of 2 billion over a span of 20 years, that is astronomically small.  How many crimes against humanity were committed in the past year by the religion of peace? Best regards,

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/16 at 15:29:55 I am So glad I bought a new package of stars. Gonna hafta put two Gold ones up now.

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by WebsterMark on 06/12/16 at 15:32:04 That's some pretty weak a$$ $hit there Sew. Since you deleted my post (which I confess to being disappointed at) I'm not sure what your original point was. If you were trying in some small way to compare so called Christian terrorism with Islamic terrorism, you'd need some serious creative writing skills.

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by Serowbot on 06/12/16 at 15:35:30 That was US  only... You wanna' nitpick over quantity?... Click the link,.. it includes worldwide incidents... Is the fact that both religions are being used to justify violence and hate not enough for you?... Any religion for that matter... Murder for God,...  ::)

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by Serowbot on 06/12/16 at 15:40:46 God hates enough,.. to be parodied... https://www.google.com/search?q=god+hates+signs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0_92Ax6PNAhUJ6GMKHaVXD_UQ_AUICCgB&biw=1200&bih=614 http://i0.wp.com/farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4313477038_079b6b8216.jpg?resize=350%2C200 http://www.stjosephpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/God-hates-signs-crop.jpg http://https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b6/a2/60/b6a2606bde1b8b6607e1b48d969f6004.jpg

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by WebsterMark on 06/12/16 at 15:40:52 When there's a mass killing or stories about beheadings, cutting up girls (you know what I mean) etc, no one first thinks Christian terrorist. No one. and yes, I want to "nitpick" over quantity.....

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/16 at 15:45:26 Well, since the left and right each happily use Your side is As , if not More wrong, can we try to not ignore the Christians Hacked to death with machetes in third world countries? Here's the Deal. This is AMERICA. And, in America, we are seeing people MURDERED by religious zealots who YOU are all in favor of IMPORTING. Are you willing to even consider that importing the people who HATE Christians and HATE queers just Might have unintended, but Not unforeseeable consequences? Are you ready to reconsider the desire to bring this kind of ideology Home? Now, split the hair,, Yes, this murderous idiot was American, but WHAT he sees as right is what so many of who you want to import sees as Right. The Same ideology drives those who YOU say should be Here,,, How could you Want people Hostile TO the people whose cause you so champion?

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by Serowbot on 06/12/16 at 15:59:18 This is condemning the many for the sins of the few... Let's say there is a zombie outbreak at your child's school... We put it on lockdown... Do we kill all the children, because some might be infected?... Less danger that way... we are safer... ...or,.. do you want to get your child back, and wait and see?... People are dying over there...

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/16 at 16:08:17 Really? Yet you would agree with gun control, punishing the many, for the sins of the few. And IMPORTING masses of Muslims who are Sworn Enemies of Americans of many stripes, and you've been convinced that that is good. Well, here is what is coming. Your side, the vocal minority, will win. The violence Will increase. Queers and Christians will die. And the only obvious answer is Turn them all in. You're wrong here.

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by raydawg on 06/12/16 at 16:09:02 6177607D65707D66120 wrote: That was US  only... You wanna' nitpick over quantity?... Click the link,.. it includes worldwide incidents... Is the fact that both religions are being used to justify violence and hate not enough for you?... Any religion for that matter... Murder for God,...  ::) What........ WHAT........ WHAT........ Did you just say? Muslims can and in fact, do kill, and can therefor be called accurately Muslim Terrorist? Dang, hell must be cold bout now! BTW...... Your murder for God, any God, has about as much to do with it as some pedophile forcing himself on a minor and claiming this guy was justified in assuring none of the deceased with ever do that to a child again.... It is crazy thinking, counter productive, and like Obama using this sad situation to politicize re: guns, will solve not one dang thing....

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by Serowbot on 06/12/16 at 16:49:41 6B747275686F5E6E5E66747833010 wrote: Really? Yet you would agree with gun control, punishing the many, for the sins of the few. Now you're equating guns with children.... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/16 at 17:50:23 Im not equating anything. I'm showing you what a mental gymnast you are in order to pretend that you have some rational point and you're right. You're intellectually dishonest, unwilling, unable to see the obvious, because it's not in alignment with the agenda.

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by raydawg on 06/12/16 at 18:02:40 Jog....... Some folks round here opted to go to the Katie Couric school of reasoning and reporting,...... And they think her unbiased technique is as right as rain. Good luck trying to teach a dog to think its a cat....  ;D

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by Serowbot on 06/12/16 at 18:39:27 Good luck trying to teach a cat to think... :-?

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/16 at 19:59:47 He never suggested teaching a cat to think.

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by WebsterMark on 06/13/16 at 03:48:31 There's going to be a lot of useless "noise" coming out (sorry, bad joke....) of this Orlando shooting, but try to break things down and get to the root cause. Like most big problems, it's simple to identify. Islam has a problem in that it has a growing number of radical members, some of whom give only vocal support, some financial support, some carry out violence and some kill. (If you think there's another root cause, lets hear it.) So, if thats the real problem, what's the short term solution and the long term solution?

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by raydawg on 06/13/16 at 05:12:23 665453424554437C50435A310 wrote: There's going to be a lot of useless "noise" coming out (sorry, bad joke....) of this Orlando shooting, but try to break things down and get to the root cause. Like most big problems, it's simple to identify. Islam has a problem in that it has a growing number of radical members, some of whom give only vocal support, some financial support, some carry out violence and some kill. (If you think there's another root cause, lets hear it.) So, if thats the real problem, what's the short term solution and the long term solution? Web, again, this is more about blame and protecting ones own turf, foremost. I got you deleted because a individual had the power to snuff my POV, and used it. Did it solve anything, no. This mindset is why Rush got his audience. It is why Trump is resonating with so many. It's the the intolerant by those who claim tolerances in themselves.... Re: your post. I called you out on a really F'd Up title.... I got your intention, and in a sadistic way, a good equivalent, but our hearts were still grieving enormously to swallow such an observation without chocking on it. I then took to Bot and his classic refrenceing he learned from Obama, you know the standard, yeah, Christian would never do something like this, etc.... Intellectually, the guy is about as useless as breast on a man, but I get you deleted because I post BS, go figger. I then shared I think obama's insistence on NOT calling these terrorist Muslims, and identifying these peeps for who they are IS a disservice to the Muslims themselves..... As it takes the focus off of the real problem of identifying these creeps, and by NOT calling them out by their screwed up interpretations of a religion he is in effect, lumping them all together, good, bad, indifferent.... His JV revelation and its intended demeaning didn't work, he needs to realize that and call a spade a spade. Once we have a baseline to work from, like zealous Muslim ideologues, then all of us who DO NOT fit that discriptions can hopefully defeat it.... Will this get deleted, I don't know.....

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by WebsterMark on 06/13/16 at 05:25:24 1) it was a great freaking title! Absolutely perfect. If you don't get Mad Magazine or Tosh then you can't see the blend of humor and commentary. Open up a bit dawg, 2) you have an unhealthy fascination with Sew.

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by raydawg on 06/13/16 at 06:33:28 596B6C7D7A6B7C436F7C650E0 wrote: 1) it was a great freaking title! Absolutely perfect. If you don't get Mad Magazine or Tosh then you can't see the blend of humor and commentary. Open up a bit dawg, 2) you have an unhealthy fascination with Sew. The dude called me out on the post.... And you have a very active imagination. You share you are on the road a lot, maybe you should stay home more, as you look seem to quickly becoming road kill yourself, ah... But hey, if it works for you, who am I to say you need to open up a wee bit more.... Have fun you two  ;D

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by WebsterMark on 06/13/16 at 07:09:02 Lighten up Francis.....

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by raydawg on 06/13/16 at 07:25:34 Quit sniveling cupcake....... Hey, you listening to Dr. Laura right now? [ch128536]

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by WebsterMark on 06/13/16 at 07:29:02 don't pick a fight with the wrong Marine dawg. Do the Disney thing and Let It Go....

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by raydawg on 06/13/16 at 07:42:40 Haha, you are funny, BOO  ::) BTW jarhead, I have lightened up, almost 40 pounds now [ch128536]

Title: Re: Gone......??? Post by Serowbot on 06/13/16 at 08:35:40 I think some of it was grey matter... :-? Let's get back on topic.. .and off the personal attacks.. This thread actually has no topic. How 'bout we move on?...

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