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Message started by kecuki on 06/10/16 at 14:49:55

Title: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purchase
Post by kecuki on 06/10/16 at 14:49:55

Hi,

I have very stupid and beginners question, hope you will forgive me. I recently bought my very first own bike, used Savage Ryca CS1 build, and within 5 minutes after purchase I broke the metal "connector" between the very front pedal and engine - please see images attached. Problem is, I don't even know what it is, and don't even know how it happened? I checked both manual and parts list and couldn't find it. Bike runs well, without problems, so it seems.

Therefore my questions is: What is that? How can I replace it?

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by Tocsik on 06/10/16 at 14:57:23

Looks like a manual decompression lever.  You'll get some good answers here real soon.

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by Savageman on 06/10/16 at 15:04:17

I would contact RYCA and send them pictures of the entire decomp rod and links. They should have parts for it. RYCA.com

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by kecuki on 06/10/16 at 15:05:35


526965756F6D060 wrote:
Looks like a manual decompression lever.  You'll get some good answers here real soon.


Oh! Thanks, now I know how it is called!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZrAdongjIE

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by Ruttly on 06/10/16 at 15:12:44

Ryca also makes a thumb lever that does the same thing and you can get rid of the pedal and all that linkage crap. I like the thumb lever , small and out of the way !

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by old.indian on 06/10/16 at 15:51:16

The thumb lever calls for a "clutch mod"  (???) . :-?  
Here is the foot linkage.
http://shop.rycamotors.com/decompression_lever.html  

If your bike is running properly, I doubt if you bent that exuast valve...

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes of purchase
Post by Dave on 06/10/16 at 18:13:07

Most likely you pushed on the pedal too hard with your foot.

It can't hold the exhaust valve open far enough to anything to get broken (the stock decompression solenoid does the same thing).

99 out of 100 starts you most likely need the lever....but every not and then the piston is on the upstroke toward compression when the starter kicks in, and it can sometimes refuse to let the starter turn the engine over against the compression.

The problem with the hand lever - is if you stall the bike, you can[t hold the clutch lever in at the same time you reach down to use the decompression lever.  You need to shift into neutral and then use the hand lever if the engine won't go over the compression stroke.

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/10/16 at 21:07:13

Always keep the idle speed at or above 1,000RPM.
Letting it idle while on the sidestand robs the cam of oil.

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by kecuki on 06/11/16 at 11:59:01


7E7D753F787F7578707F110 wrote:
If your bike is running properly, I doubt if you bent that exuast valve...


What do you mean?

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes of purchase
Post by kecuki on 06/11/16 at 12:10:59


162D2037262A31372C242936450 wrote:
Most likely you pushed on the pedal too hard with your foot.

It can't hold the exhaust valve open far enough to anything to get broken (the stock decompression solenoid does the same thing).

99 out of 100 starts you most likely need the lever....but every not and then the piston is on the upstroke toward compression when the starter kicks in, and it can sometimes refuse to let the starter turn the engine over against the compression.

The problem with the hand lever - is if you stall the bike, you can[t hold the clutch lever in at the same time you reach down to use the decompression lever.  You need to shift into neutral and then use the hand lever if the engine won't go over the compression stroke.


I recon you meant 99 of 100 starts I won't need it, right?

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by old.indian on 06/11/16 at 13:11:13


09070117090B620 wrote:
[quote author=7E7D753F787F7578707F110 link=1465595397/0#5 date=1465599076]

If your bike is running properly, I doubt if you bent that exuast valve...


What do you mean?[/quote]
If the valve is held open and contact is made with the piston, the valve will suffer. (Usually bending) Sometimes/ often the piston is damaged also. Either way, NOT a good situation.

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by Dave on 06/11/16 at 19:29:35


6D6E662C6B6C666B636C020 wrote:
[quote author=09070117090B620 link=1465595397/0#8 date=1465671541][quote author=7E7D753F787F7578707F110 link=1465595397/0#5 date=1465599076]

If your bike is running properly, I doubt if you bent that exuast valve...


What do you mean?[/quote]

If the valve is held open and contact is made with the piston, the valve will suffer. (Usually bending) Sometimes/ often the piston is damaged also. Either way, NOT a good situation.
[/quote]

The compression release lever on the Suzuki will not push the valve open much.....it just lifts it off the seat a small amount.  It has to.....as the stock compression release system does the same thing - it lifts the valve regardless of the position of the crank.

Don't sweat it......you didn't hurt anything.

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by kecuki on 06/12/16 at 20:19:12

Could it do any damage if not fixed?

Title: Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha
Post by Savageman on 06/12/16 at 20:29:00

If it were mine I'd fix it just because I want all systems go! Almost as critical as a tool kit. The bike runs but doesn't need it to run.

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