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Message started by raydawg on 06/10/16 at 13:08:23

Title: Tire wear question.....
Post by raydawg on 06/10/16 at 13:08:23

You can look at my tire wear pattern and tell I ride pretty much straight up  ;D

The middle tread, which is/was minimal compared to the tread on the sides of the tire, much deeper, wider, etc....
The middle is now slick, maybe a inch or two wide, but great tread otherwise.
I have metzlers 880 with maybe 12000 miles or so.
Nothing visible at to how much rubber is still over the casing....
Am I still good to ride, or should I get new ones?

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by Dave on 06/10/16 at 13:12:58

Since you ride somewhat non-aggressively, I suppose you can continue to ride until:  1)  You begin to see a different color/texture to the rubber - which shows you are getting out of the tread rubber and into the casing rubber - or - 2) You notice the tire slipping in the wet.

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by engineer on 06/10/16 at 14:00:33

With 12K miles on it and a smooth rubber strip that might slide while braking on slippery pavement - I would replace it.  Why take a chance.

But Dave is right, you'll probably be OK.  I'm an older rider and don't have many riding years remaining so I don't like to take chances, I want to spend as much of my remaining time as possible riding, not healing so I try to minimize all the risks that are within my control.

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by raydawg on 06/24/16 at 04:56:23

Thanks guys, I took your advice and put new rubber on.....
Had metzlers, a shop quoted me 700 for both, total, arg.
Called a shop I have used before, they didn't have those tires....
Asked their price on the best seller here in the pacnorwest, got some dunlops, like them better, and over 300 bucks cheaper!

I think the met likes a heavier bike, these tires are very responsive without slip tho

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by Kris01 on 06/24/16 at 05:44:18

12,000 miles! Wow! Is that common for the Metzelers? I know they're a long wearing tire but 12000 miles on a mc tire is a lot.

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/24/16 at 05:46:19

I'm glad to see that you went with new rubber. When the tires get flat spotted from highway use the bike will have some rather unfavorable handling characteristics as you transition from straight up to leaned. I'm sure you noticed an intimidate improvement.

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by raydawg on 06/24/16 at 06:28:06


3D373339323B3F36686E6A5A0 wrote:
I'm glad to see that you went with new rubber. When the tires get flat spotted from highway use the bike will have some rather unfavorable handling characteristics as you transition from straight up to leaned. I'm sure you noticed an intimidate improvement.


Yes, I don't get to road seam wiggle anymore.....
Not sure how that works, as I always have the proper air in my tires.
I guess it has to do with grip and track, but it feels much more secure, yet, the turning is easier too  :-?

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by raydawg on 06/24/16 at 06:31:05


48716A703332030 wrote:
12,000 miles! Wow! Is that common for the Metzelers? I know they're a long wearing tire but 12000 miles on a mc tire is a lot.


This is the only time I had one, but I bought it on reviews, paid the premium based on not having to pay for install/tires sooner. It seemed to pencil out that it was a cost saver, IF, you ride enough to use them and NOT sell it to someone else  ;D

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by Dave on 06/24/16 at 06:49:45

That is a hard accounting/financial problem to cypher.  If you buy a premium tire....will you wear it out before it gets too old (or too hard) to use up the tread - or should you go to a cheaper tire and replace it a bit more often.  Or like Oldfeller and MMRanch have done......should you go to the darkside and put on a car tire on your bike?  (You will have to mount it yourself, as I don't believe any dealer would mount a car tire on a bike rim).

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by batman on 06/24/16 at 11:19:17

I've always road on dunlops they handle well even in the rain they wear out at 8/10,000 but are not priced to high. my theory is good tires,good brakes, If the bike doesn't start it can't kill you,but if it doesn't handle or stop............

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by Armen on 06/24/16 at 11:48:26

You can't spend much time in an emergency room for the price of a premium tire.
Cheap tires are like cheap bullet-proof vests.
The last place to save money.

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/24/16 at 14:21:27

After Easter it's simply not fashionable to be wearing a whitewall.

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by raydawg on 06/24/16 at 19:51:25

So far, loving these tires.....
They are really responsive, and my bike seems quicker, what the heck....
Maybe my tire gauge was way off before  :o
The new tubes have the 90 degree metal stem, loving that too, so much easier to check.
Also, he said he my rear axle was crooked, and he straightened that out on the install, I might have done that when I changed my belt, which, doesn't whine at all now on decel, etc  :)
I only need a year and a half out of these, then I retire, and most likely, not sure, I will give her up....
Not sure I want to chance a slip and fall in my 60's  :-[

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by KennyG on 06/24/16 at 21:47:43

Dawg,

It has been my experience with riding during our senior years is that it improves one's balance.

When we first moved to Texas, almost 10 years ago, I thought I was finished riding for the rest my life and especially because of the wind and the heat. After two bad falls, my physician suggested that I ride a bicycle to improve my balance. I went around the block once and parked the bike.

I drove into Argyle and bought a Yamaha V-star and that was how I improved my balance. I haven't had a fall since.

The best ridin' in your life starts after you retire.

Kenny G

Title: Third time's the charm
Post by Paladin. on 06/25/16 at 06:04:03

[quote author=6C7F677A7F69791E0 link=1465589304/0#12 date=1466823085] ... Not sure I want to chance a slip and fall in my 60's  :-[/quote]Depends on your health and how "old" you are.  My family has heart disease.  Pappy died age 43.  I had an attack at age 50.  At age 63 I got a triple bypass and a stroke that left me with aphasia and an ejection factor of 20-25%.  Retired at 65.  At 66 I killed the Savage and got the Vespa so I didn't need to swing a leg over a saddle.  About 3 months ago, at 69, I dropped the scoot.  A bit of road rash, no big deal.  A month ago I did it again, less road rash but fell on the right shoulder tearing ligaments and breaking four ribs.  I figured I should stop riding before I got really hurt.  Not to mention that I wasn't enjoying wearing the darn helmet.

Your mileage will vary.  

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/16 at 06:40:50

I would so buy you a beer,,

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by raydawg on 06/25/16 at 06:51:37


1D3338152437253E560 wrote:
Dawg,

It has been my experience with riding during our senior years is that it improves one's balance.

When we first moved to Texas, almost 10 years ago, I thought I was finished riding for the rest my life and especially because of the wind and the heat. After two bad falls, my physician suggested that I ride a bicycle to improve my balance. I went around the block once and parked the bike.

I drove into Argyle and bought a Yamaha V-star and that was how I improved my balance. I haven't had a fall since.

The best ridin' in your life starts after you retire.

Kenny G


Kenny.... you is tugging at my heart strings bro  ;D

I do believe what you say.
I turn tricks around younger guys at work, and they know it.
They are already whining about me retiring and not being able to meet our rate when I'm gone, uh, how bout stepping it up young'ns and pulling your weight, WHICH, since I've shed a lot, has improved my life/riding immensely, and I can see how actively riding is part of that success.
I see guys my age already rotting away.....
To be fair, I don't know if they have physical limitations that are contributing to their state...

The summers here are a blessing for sure. People work all year just to be able to spend it here on vacation....
This will be a hard time to NOT ride, in our long sunlit summer days.

Thank you!

Title: Re: Third time's the charm
Post by raydawg on 06/25/16 at 07:02:11


41707D7075787F110 wrote:
[quote author=6C7F677A7F69791E0 link=1465589304/0#12 date=1466823085] ... Not sure I want to chance a slip and fall in my 60's  :-[/quote]Depends on your health and how "old" you are.  My family has heart disease.  Pappy died age 43.  I had an attack at age 50.  At age 63 I got a triple bypass and a stroke that left me with aphasia and an ejection factor of 20-25%.  Retired at 65.  At 66 I killed the Savage and got the Vespa so I didn't need to swing a leg over a saddle.  About 3 months ago, at 69, I dropped the scoot.  A bit of road rash, no big deal.  A month ago I did it again, less road rash but fell on the right shoulder tearing ligaments and breaking four ribs.  I figured I should stop riding before I got really hurt.  Not to mention that I wasn't enjoying wearing the darn helmet.

Your mileage will vary.  



Dude I'm amazed you can even type out a response  ;)

You've been through the grinder for sure mate.....
Tho your body seems to have abandoned you, your mind appears to have taken up the slack.
I appreciate what you shared and see the wisdom it holds.
I am not one who welcomes pain as a badge of machismo, nor do I enjoy the euphoria of the pain killers  8-)
But I do get off on the feel of freedom, as I cruise down these island roads untethered , almost like flying.....
Its a rush like no other I known.
However, I will need to put others first, and listen to those who have a vested need in me being their for them.....
Not an easy task for a guy who has been pretty selfish all his life  :(

Sorry for your life hurdles, but I am glad you share your experience at overcoming them with others, that is what makes life work

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by raydawg on 06/25/16 at 07:05:09


594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 wrote:
I would so buy you a beer,,


Last time I drank I ended up nekked.....

You still game?  :-*

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/16 at 10:17:41

I'll wear shades..

Very, very Dark, shades..

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by Dave on 06/25/16 at 10:21:26


594A524F4A5C4C2B0 wrote:
[quote author=594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 link=1465589304/15#15 date=1466862050]I would so buy you a beer,,


Last time I drank I ended up nekked.....

You still game?  :-*
[/quote]


Yikes!  I aint getting in that game. :-?

Title: Re: Third time's the charm
Post by Paladin. on 06/26/16 at 01:35:40


584B534E4B5D4D2A0 wrote:
... Sorry for your life hurdles, but I am glad you share your experience at overcoming them with others, that is what makes life work

Simple Definition of Mentor (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mentor) : someone who teaches or gives help and advice to a less experienced and often younger person.

Near 30 years ago Roy N. was one of my mentors.  Taught me to "Make it mo' better."  "Good enough" isn't.  He retired about 20 years ago.  4 years ago he made it to my Retirement Breakfast.  He is still my Mentor.  He told me "We ALL have problems -- deal with it."


Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/26/16 at 02:45:34

Dave, I can find a blindfold for you. And nobody says anyone hasta get nekked. I might even wear gloves,, I don't know how much beer was involved or just how frisky that guy gets..

Title: Re: Tire wear question.....
Post by raydawg on 06/26/16 at 08:11:17


4B545255484F7E4E7E46545813210 wrote:
Dave, I can find a blindfold for you. And nobody says anyone hasta get nekked. I might even wear gloves,, I don't know how much beer was involved or just how frisky that guy gets..


Dave, Jog likes hitting his head, nuff said  8-)

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