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Message started by Serowbot on 06/07/16 at 08:40:27

Title: I'm trying...
Post by Serowbot on 06/07/16 at 08:40:27

I'm trying... to wrap my head around what it would be like to ride this... :-?

How much arm strength is needed to keep that front wheel pointed forward?...
How "iron" must my butt be?... :-?

...and,.. a little part of me wants to find out... :-/
http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad225/ru4realeddiemon/122015/20116/chopper.jpg

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by whoisrawb on 06/07/16 at 08:50:31

LOL that is insane!  ;D

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by verslagen1 on 06/07/16 at 08:58:29

hard to say, the head angle is severe, but the trail may make up for it.
I've heard some say these customs were easy to turn.

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/16 at 09:55:23

Looks like you could ride a Ryca CS1 right under that !!!

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/16 at 09:58:33

I wanna see him do a ride test on that at department of motor vehicles , ride that thru the key hole !

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Post by Ruttly on 06/07/16 at 10:01:17

Panic stop with that dual disc must be hella fun

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/16 at 10:02:58

Needs like 3 or 4 fork braces

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/16 at 10:11:51

Needs about an acre or so to turn around , might fall asleep before that happens

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Dave on 06/07/16 at 11:13:29

Waaaaay back in the 70's, I rode a Triumph chopper with a front end like that (maybe not so long), and it was a conventional fork with just two tubes.....and it had a drum front brake.

The first time I went to slow down, I grabbed a handful of front brake as I always do....and that is when the bucking started.  The braking force would put a bend in the fork tubes, and then the front wheel would do a little bounce up in the air....and the front wheel would jump forward and the forks would straighten out, and then when the wheel hit the ground again the process would repeat.  In about 5 oscillations I figured out what was happening and stopped using the front brake.  I don't remember it riding weird in a straight line - but it was a bit strange watching that front tire being tipped over and making a big wide arc while the back tire just kind of pivoted. :o

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by stewmills on 06/07/16 at 12:19:47


6573647961747962160 wrote:
How much arm strength is needed to keep that front wheel pointed forward?...


I saw this guy get off of that bike. That answer your question?  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/16 at 12:31:09

Wow Dave you were riding in the 70's , you must be , wait a minute , guess I was riding in the Late 70's , never mind disregard this post.

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Dave on 06/07/16 at 13:03:01


123534342C39400 wrote:
Wow Dave you were riding in the 70's , you must be , wait a minute , guess I was riding in the Late 70's , never mind disregard this post.


My first street legal bike was a 1972 F6 Kawasaki 125 Enduro.

http://i64.tinypic.com/1fu0jt.jpg

My second street legal bike was a 1976 Suzuki RE-5 with a Rotary (Wankel) engine.

http://i67.tinypic.com/5zh3r.jpg



Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by KennyG on 06/07/16 at 13:29:17

Dave,

How did the Wankel engine work out in a motorcycle frame?

I had a new RX7 in 1989 and it was a really good smooth running automobile.

Kenny G

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Tocsik on 06/07/16 at 13:31:53

My first bike was a 1975 Yamaha RD200.  2-stroke, twin.  Amazing power band.
This isn't mine but it's identical:
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k548/Tocsik87/Other%20bikes/Yamaha%20RD200_zpsqaulkvlz.jpg (http://s1115.photobucket.com/user/Tocsik87/media/Other%20bikes/Yamaha%20RD200_zpsqaulkvlz.jpg.html)

Next was a 1977 Yamah XS 400 that I cafe'd with drop bars, a quarter fairing and exhaust tips.  Need to find some pics of that one as it was pre-digital.  I got hit on it and it was totaled.
Here's how it looked stock (again, not mine but identical).
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k548/Tocsik87/Other%20bikes/1977%20Yamaha%20XS400%20Red_zpssvbpoact.jpg (http://s1115.photobucket.com/user/Tocsik87/media/Other%20bikes/1977%20Yamaha%20XS400%20Red_zpssvbpoact.jpg.html)

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Dave on 06/07/16 at 13:34:15

The Wankel was pretty cool.  It had a funky lope that sounded really cool at idle, at speed it sounded like it was a 125cc engine at high rpm.  It was very torquey, and very smooth - but if you were riding along and just chopped the throttle quickly...the compression braking/engine friction could slide the back tire if the pavement was smooth (tar joints, paint stripes, wet pavement).

I wish I still had it.....I sold it when I went to college.  I had a black Windjammer SS fairing on it.....it looked great!

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 06/07/16 at 14:20:44

Has anyone ever heard of an Italian manufacturer called Itom?  I had a 50cc Itom in high school in 1963.  I'm sure that they imported very few bikes to the U.S., and went out of business a long time ago.  I think that I paid about $50 for it, but I rode it for 2 years, and it got me where I needed to go.  It was 2 cycle, as I recall.

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Dave on 06/07/16 at 14:36:55


323D313B303D363A3D2A3F3D2A580 wrote:
Has anyone ever heard of an Italian manufacturer called Itom?  I had a 50cc Itom in high school in 1963.  I'm sure that they imported very few bikes to the U.S., and went out of business a long time ago.  I think that I paid about $50 for it, but I rode it for 2 years, and it got me where I needed to go.  It was 2 cycle, as I recall.


Nope...never heard of it.  But an internet search can get you lots of photos!

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEViXGPldXxM8Av4AnnIlQ?p=itom&fr=yhs-mozilla-004&fr2=piv-web&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 06/07/16 at 14:49:30

Dave -
I saw the same sites that you did.  I recall that bike very fondly.  Back in the 1960s, here in Ohio, if you failed the driver's license road test twice, you had to wait a year to re-test.  When I was in high school, my Dad had a Cadillac that was about 50 feet long, and I failed the parallel parking test twice.  So I got the Itom to get around for that year.  I had a cousin who had been a battalion commander in Patton's army who taught me the technique that they taught tank drivers to park tanks.  It works in everything from a dump truck to a Fiat 500.  I passed on the next attempt.

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/16 at 15:15:54

Yeah a real nice all stock RE5 fetches a nice price, collectors like them.

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by old.indian on 06/07/16 at 15:48:44

1972 and a buddy had a pan head chopper. Rigid with an extended springer front end.   I rode it ...Once......

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/16 at 16:11:45

I had a cousin who had been a battalion commander in Patton's army who taught me the technique that they taught tank drivers to park tanks.

I double Dawg Dare you to park a car anywhere NEAR I wanna park my Tank..

Title: Re: I'm trying...
Post by HovisPresley on 06/08/16 at 17:35:56

One of the things that attracted me to the Savage is it's geometry.

Not going into rake/trail issues or anything, but I think the angle of the forks and that of the front down-tube/s of the frame are perfect, aesthetically, on the Savage

Added to that is the way that the (nicely proportioned) head-light sits just right in between the yokes.

For the bobber-look though, my preference, I can't help but imagine a 21" front wheel with a minimalist Al-alloy mudguard/fender, RycaShaun brake, fork-boots............

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