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Title: New and frustrated Post by JeepCreeper86 on 05/28/16 at 14:58:44 Hey guys, bought a 2001 from a buddy for $300 and it was in pieces since 2007. Ive got the bike back together and cleaned up pretty good but i have a few issues; such as: cant go faster than 45-50 mph (no power if i go past 1/3 - 1/2 throttle regardless of gear) and ive been searching and reading this site so that i wouldnt have to make a topic just so that someone would link me to the answer. Sorry if i missed it but is there a way to tune the carb jets from the outside of the carb? Or do i have to sit there and take the thing apart, turn the jet a bit, reassemble and keep repeating until it sounds right? I get the concept of the tuning, and the order, but the application is what is throwing me for a loop. Im pretty mechanically inclined but im a rookie when it comes to carbs. Thanks for any help/info provided. (I order the raptor petcock today, btw) |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by verslagen1 on 05/28/16 at 15:24:31 Did you have the cam off? if you didn't time it right, it won't go over 55. to change the jets, you just need to take the bowl off. but your' whole problem maybe a dirty carb. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by Serowbot on 05/28/16 at 15:29:31 08272732013027273227307A74420 wrote:
You don't actually "adjust" the jets... you replace them. They are just screws with specific size holes in them... You go bigger or smaller... #150 main/ #50 or #52.5 pilot is the usual range at or below 2500ft... Cleaning the one's you got is the place to start, like Versy says... The holes plug up if the bike sits too long. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/28/16 at 19:00:29 Welcome to the club. Im old and frustrated. Hopefully, you'll solve your problems before you are old. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by Struch on 05/29/16 at 01:29:48 Do that and you will achieve happiness ;D http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1191899985 |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by JeepCreeper86 on 05/29/16 at 08:08:40 Thanks for the response and well wishes. The engine engine itself was left intact, so them cam and rods and all those "internals" were left as is. I fully disassembled and cleaned the carb bit will for sure follow the guide that Struch linked me to to see if that helps. The jets are the original jets that the bike had when (the guy i bought it from says) it was running fine and reaching top speeds. Also, with the jet screws, do i tighten them all the way down or should i back them out a little? |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/29/16 at 08:16:46 Is it possible He had been in to the cam and put it back wrong? Maybe that's why he quit messing with it.. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by KennyG on 05/29/16 at 08:30:24 Jeep, Go back and look at all the information posted on this forum about the carburetor. It is very possible to assemble the carburetor incorrectly, especially if you did the needle and spacer. I am not sure where Orange Grove is, but if you are near one of the more experienced forum guys they may want to stop by to help you. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by JeepCreeper86 on 05/29/16 at 08:35:46 113F3419283B29325A0 wrote:
Im near Corpus Christi, Tx. Im pretty good with assembly and disassembly but that is also a possibility. Im going to print out the carb guide i was linked to and follow it step by step and report back in a few hours, or days if it works, haha. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by Serowbot on 05/29/16 at 09:12:36 6A454550635245455045521816200 wrote:
Always tighten jets to full seat... They are brass, so don't torque down. Just gentle snug. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by batman on 05/29/16 at 11:35:17 I think Kenny G might be right on . Ask the PO if he did the needle and spacer ,if the small plate that holds the jet needle was installed wrong(it is easy to put in upside down)the slide won't open fully,past1/3-1/2 throttle the mixture will lean out ,no more speed or power as you described. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/29/16 at 11:50:02 Hmmm Boy, the tiny screws that hold that little plate Must have the correct shaped tool, else they will get damaged and access is very limited. The handheld impact from harbor freight USED to come with a long, skinny JIS tip. Without that, I'd say the next best option is buy a JIS ( hope I'm correct on the name, it's not a Phillips, but it sure looks like one ). If the screwdriver slips at all, stop, use a pin punch, put the distorted edges back in place, |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by batman on 05/29/16 at 12:23:46 You right JOG jis- Japanese industrial standard-looks like Phillips head but shallower angle on the tip ,P.Head drive is too pointy so,it doesn't fully engage the JIS slots. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by KennyG on 05/29/16 at 13:37:27 The screws that you are referring to can be replaced with steel Phillips Head screws from Ace Hardware. Since the Small Impact Driver From Harbor Freight is no longer available I adapted my old KD Manufacturing Impact Driver which is 3/8" Drive to 1/4". I ground the tip off of a #2 Phillips Head Screw Drive Bit to fit the Mikuni Screws. Go slow and one good tap with a small hammer and the pain in the a$$ screws will be out of there. It would be good if you have a second person hold the carb for you. The KD Driver is is 55 years old so I am sure it will outlast anything from Harbor Freight. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by JeepCreeper86 on 06/02/16 at 14:51:54 Hey guys, sorry for the delay. We are having some pretty bad weather down here so i havent had a chance to take the bike out. It sounds bettter after the clean but that the only improvement i can comment on at this time. Will update again once it all clears up and i can take her for a ride. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/16 at 17:37:02 Things go right I'll be down within a half hour drive this summer. Outta Galveston, cross San Luis pass, just down on the right. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by KennyG on 06/03/16 at 17:41:44 Justin, You may as well head out to Denton on the way home. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/16 at 18:00:08 Is that north of Dallas? I hope I get to go.. gotta get my old pickup going.. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by KennyG on 06/03/16 at 20:05:31 Justin, Denton is about 30 miles north of Dallas. If you take 35W North you will be within 2 miles of my place at Exit 79. Bring a sleeping bag as we have no spare beds. (Because of adult children wanting to move back home). The local beer is Shiner Bock, we have a goodly supply. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/16 at 20:47:17 local beer is Shiner Bock, we have a goodly supply. I don't understand exactly what the parameters are that delineate between an island and a continent, nor am I able to see just where something crosses over from enticement to straight up bribery... Maybe after a few Shiners it'll come to me... Or, maybe I'll just stop caring,, That sounds like the best approach. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by KennyG on 06/03/16 at 20:54:34 Justin, We better move the subject of Shiner Bock to the cafe before we get reprimanded. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/16 at 21:01:47 Yeah,, I'm good..and I have a sleeping bag. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by JeepCreeper86 on 06/11/16 at 17:18:15 So, after following the carb guide to the t and reassembly (plus raptor petcock swap) i can now go 55 in top gear. May order some new jets now. Any thoughts? |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by JeepCreeper86 on 08/13/16 at 19:08:13 I finally figured it out!!! The large jet under the float lid was swapped with my main jet. Figured "what the hell, swap em and see what happens" and it worked!!! Guess at some point the got swapped accidentally. Problem solved now!! Hopefully orher member can read this thread in the future and it could be a solution for them. Thank you all for your help and guidence. Ride safe! |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by bobert_FSO on 08/13/16 at 20:10:27 Yahoo! Glad you're off and running. Nothing feels better than a successful troubleshoot. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by JeepCreeper86 on 08/13/16 at 20:17:48 636E63647375010 wrote:
Hell yeah!! I mean, its only been 4-5 months of disassembly and reassembly. |
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Title: Re: New and frustrated Post by Ruttly on 08/13/16 at 20:27:40 Mmmmmm BEER !!! |
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