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Message started by springman on 05/26/16 at 13:39:38

Title: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by springman on 05/26/16 at 13:39:38

I just ordered Shinko 230's, front and back, inner tubes and rim strips for a total of about $158.00. Competition Accessories had a slightly better price on the tires but their tubes were much more expensive.

When the tires come in I'll check the date stamp on them and just let you all know in general how things go with this purchase.

I still have some tread left on my rear tire so I may go a couple of months without changing it. Of course if it continues to rain as much as it has these last 2 months I may just go ahead and put that good rubber on there for the sake of safety anyway. ;)

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by Gus on 05/26/16 at 15:04:17

That's a pretty good buy on rubber. Be interesting to see how it goes.

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Post by Dave on 05/26/16 at 17:53:46

I have been buying all my tires from BikeBandit for the past few years. I am an AMA member and get a 10% discount, and they offer free shipping. Only once did they send me an out of date tire.....and they replaced it when I contacted them. They don't stock the tires....they have them drop shipped to you from their nearest distributor....so BikeBandit never sees or touches your tire.

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Post by Kris01 on 05/26/16 at 18:13:09

Does an "older" new tire really pose a problem? I mean, it sits in a warehouse not exposed to the sun's UV radiation, no tread wear, no excessive loads on the tire, etc. Do we need to be concerned about a 3 year old "new" tire?

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by Gus on 05/26/16 at 20:22:55

5C657E642726170 wrote:

This'd be my question too?

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by Dave on 05/27/16 at 04:20:42

655C475D1E1F2E0 wrote:

Most new tires have a coating or are wrapped to help keep them fresh - but the rubber does age from outgassing and exposure to heat (don't store them in hot garage or in your car).

"Word" on the street is that you should not be riding on a tire that is more than 5 years old....more conservative folks would say 3 if you like to push the limits in the corner. The Rescue bike I bought last year was a 2002 with original tires (14 years old), and they didn't have any age cracks and looked good - but if you pushed it you could tell the tires were hard and slippery. I have no idea how they would have performed in the rain!

You need to consider your riding style, and how many miles you ride a year. You want to have your tire worn out and order replacements within 5 years of the manufacturer date on the tire. So if the "new" tire you were just sent has been in their warehouse for 3 years....you only have 2 years to were it out. That is also a consideration on what kind of tire (how expensive) you buy. If you only ride 1,000 miles a year, there is no reason to buy a 15,000 - 20,000 mile Michelin Commander, and you would be better off buying a set of Shinko's.

If you ride very calmly, never push the limits, only ride when it is dry, and keep your bike in a garage with mild temperatures....you could probably use a tire for 10 years - but it will not have the same traction in the last 5 years that it did in the first 5 years.

When I get a "new" tire.......I expect that it will always be at least 4 months old - and don't accept one that is more than a year old. Luckily the sizes that I buy are common, and the tire inventory moves in/out of the warehouse quickly. I buy my tires around February though May, I never buy tires in the fall....as they most likely are from the spring production 6 months previous - and I won't be riding on them for another 8 months when warm weather returns the next year.

And.....all of this is just my opinion. Oldfeller wears his tires out, and rides on them until the tread is gone. I don't believe he worries about how old they are.....same for MMRanch. They both ride really well, and if the bike slides a bit they just adapt their riding style to match!

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Post by LANCER on 05/27/16 at 05:31:12

I've got a set of Metzler 880's on REX that are in the 6-8 year range.
There are no cracks and virtually no wear and they ride just fine.
The tires I just purchased to replace the rubber on the Sportster and the S40 are also 880's. I got them for just $90 something for the rear and $60 for the front. It was slightly used but to look at it more than 90% of the tread is there. The rear's are 1 year old and the front is 2 years old.

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by springman on 05/27/16 at 11:48:04

That sounds like a great buy on the Metzelers Lancer.

My current front tire is a Pirelli and it is 10 years old. During the 3 sisters ride we rode on many wet roads. The day we rode the sisters the roads were wet. On one of the first curves I felt my front tire slip. It scared me good. I immediately slowed down a bit and still had the front tire slip on me a few more times. Yes, I do want a new tire on the front. My rear Shinko 712 I feel has always had good grip, but it is just about worn out.

By the way, BikeBandit has indicated my tires shipped today. Not bad.

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by WD on 05/29/16 at 10:08:42

Just changed my rear tire 2 days ago. Branded 019... And not 2009, tire was installed on my 98 back in 2000. [ch128520]

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by springman on 05/29/16 at 18:49:40

Update. So far so good. Delivery of tires attempted yesterday Saturday, unfortunately I had tires shipped to the office as I expected delivery to take a while. Oh well, not working on Monday so I guess I will have them Tuesday.

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Post by MMRanch on 05/29/16 at 20:16:49

Lancer :
I've got a set of Metzler 880's on REX that are in the 6-8 year range.
There are no cracks and virtually no wear and they ride just fine.
The tires I just purchased to replace the rubber on the Sportster and the S40 are also 880's. I got them for just $90 something for the rear and $60 for the front. It was slightly used but to look at it more than 90% of the tread is there. The rear's are 1 year old and the front is 2 years old.

So how many miles should I expect to get on a rear 880 ? :-?

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Post by Oldfeller on 05/30/16 at 03:03:47

Depends on how you ride -- 15,000 for MM Tennessee style riding, with a mostly upright flat spot wear out being your type of total "long haul" wear out miles.

Last you a couple of 3-4 years.

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by MMRanch on 05/30/16 at 20:22:38

Your right OldFeller

I should just put a car tire on and be done with it ! ;)

I'm in need of a Dark-Side tire for the Sportster now . That would be a 16 inch rim , in the 150-155-160 width , 75-80-85 profile ,

The commander II only lasted about 15,000 miles . :-[ On the Sportster that is.

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by Dave on 06/01/16 at 12:38:51

So.....what about those tires that were delivered yesterday?

Enquiring minds want to know!

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by springman on 06/01/16 at 13:59:12

Actually Fedex just delivered them today a few minutes ago. The front tire is dated 2815 and the rear tire 4815. The tubes came with the tires but the rim strips have yet to arrive. I may have to inquire about the rim strips.

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by springman on 06/01/16 at 14:03:27

Looks like I received an email from BikeBandit a couple of hours ago indicating that the rim strips have shipped today. Let's see if I get them by Friday.

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Post by Art Webb on 06/02/16 at 07:15:50

Oh Lawdy, let's send him 2/3 of what he needs now, 1/3 later, that'll keep de stress low ::)

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Post by verslagen1 on 06/02/16 at 08:37:48

can't you install them later? ;D

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Post by springman on 06/02/16 at 08:53:36

Sure, I'll install them later on the outside.

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Post by Dave on 06/02/16 at 09:14:10

584B4D4E5C5B5B390 wrote:

Oh Lawdy, let's send him 2/3 of what he needs now, 1/3 later, that'll keep de stress low ::)

You did good by remembering to order rim strips....the last bike I took apart had rim strips that were not usable again.

That is part of the frustration with the new internet business format. The retailers may not have a store or showroom anywhere, and they don't have a warehouse full of stuff, and their "inventory" cost is very low. When you need something - they take your order and money - then send out the order to a "distributor" that does have a warehouse full of stuff.....and the order gets processed. So.....if you order a pair of tires, a pair of rim strips, and a wheel bearing...they could be coming from several different warehouses. And to make it even more confusing - that "pair" of tires may not be coming from the same distributor. When I ordered the tires for the ST1100 the rear tire is a common size - the front is not. I got a very fresh rear tire from one warehouse, and a 4 year old front tire from a different warehouse......several days apart.

And if you buy local......you may well be going though the same ordeal if they don't have the tire or part sitting on a shelf in their store. They will order from the same retailer or distributor that you get when you go online. Most shops carry the things that sell frequently (soft gummy tires for sport bikes) - but Savage parts generally have to be ordered.

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Post by KennyG on 06/02/16 at 09:29:28

Many local brick and mortar businesses, including motorcycle shops, are creating their own demise. They don't inventory much anymore and they sure aren't in a rush to get anything to the customer.

The exception here where I am at is American Eagle Harley Davidson. If they don't have the parts in stock they will have them in their store in 4 days.

With Amazon Prime, and living only a few miles from one of their procurement centers, I have most stuff that I order the next business day, if not it will be here on the second day.

The Buell Forum has a deal with Amazon where they have a link on their website and receive a small commission whenever we order from them. Amazon is where most of the guys on the Buell Forum get their tires.

Kenny G

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by springman on 06/03/16 at 14:15:24

Update. Rim strips received today.

I am not in a big hurry to install the tires so no big deal that rim strips took a week longer than the tires to arrive. However, had I been in a hurry to install tires, I would have been less than happy to have had to wait an additional week for these rims strips. Oh well, at least the tires are pretty fresh.

Title: Re: bikebandit.com - let's see how good they are
Post by Art Webb on 06/04/16 at 07:28:06

9 out of 10 I've been able to reuse rim strips, but keeping a few on hand ain't a bad idea
I have used electrical tape in an emergency ;D

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/16 at 14:13:25

My first tire change the guy pulled off the strip, grabbed some wide, rubbery tape and wrapped up the rim. Said that is what he did with the dirt bikes.