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Message started by rl153 on 05/05/16 at 15:46:59

Title: car question
Post by rl153 on 05/05/16 at 15:46:59

my sister-in-law has a 2007 camry with about 45k mi on it . it runs fine and she gets it serviced regularly at the toyota dealership. they told her she needs to have a fuel injector cleaning done for $200 i told her i don't believe thats true. anybody want to  give an opinion?thanks!

Title: Re: car question
Post by old.indian on 05/05/16 at 16:18:35

NAPA sells injector cleaner that works just fine..   I used it in my Camaro (190k miles) mu Mont Carlo, my F150 and my wife's DTS.    Just add it to your gas tank when you fill up.    This modern gas DOES tend to go bad pretty quickly, but I would run a couple of tanks full with the NAPA cleaner through it before I spent $200.....

Title: Re: car question
Post by rl153 on 05/05/16 at 17:12:10

thanks

Title: Re: car question
Post by Kris01 on 05/05/16 at 17:43:44

45K should be nothing for the injectors. A can of Seafoam should clean out anything attached to the injector.

I clean my own injectors for far less than $200. Just pull them out and clean them by hand with carb/injector cleaner if it's worth it to you to go to that kind of trouble.

Title: Re: car question
Post by rl153 on 05/05/16 at 18:16:06

What about a bottle of gumout fuel injector cleaner  in the gas tank? Does that do any good? Is seafoam better than gumout for cleaning injectors. Also can cleaning your injectors with seafoam or gumout do any damage, and about  how often should you do it? Thanks!

Title: Re: car question
Post by old_rider on 05/05/16 at 18:33:18

Is it currently running bad? or was she being told that a maintenance schedule needed to be followed?

Title: Re: car question
Post by rl153 on 05/05/16 at 20:10:33

Its running fine,the dealership is reccomending the service, i guess it is some scheduled maintenance. I think its unecessary .

Title: Re: car question
Post by old.indian on 05/05/16 at 20:31:32

I just put "Gumout" or similar  in the tank.   A mechanic friend recommended it , so...

Title: Re: car question
Post by stewmills on 05/06/16 at 06:46:02

UNNECESSARY!  If in doubt, just get some off the shelf stuff others have recommended. I hate dealer service as they are always trying to upsell you on things that you don't need at 1000% markup.

The other reason they suggested it is because it is your SISTER-in-law. Sad, but in this world service shops still see women as quick targets.

I put a new serpentine belt on my truck, and less than 10K later the guy at the oil change shop told me it had X number of cracks per inch and that meant it was wearing out and needed replacing. He had no response when I told him that was impossible because it was new belt I personally replaced. That belt has been on there for about 2 years now and no one that has changed my oil has ever said the belt looked bad, clear evidence that the first guy was full of doo doo.

Title: Re: car question
Post by Art Webb on 05/06/16 at 07:17:08

I would ask the dealer where in the scheduled maintenance table it says to clean the injectors every 45k miles (nowhere)
I would ask it just to see what sort of elite level mental gymnastics he used to try to justify it, because unless you use Bob's Gas and let the car sit 6 months at a time there is no need to EVER have the injectors clean
Modern gas blends have cleaners built into them from the supplier (like Techron, one of the best fuel system cleaners available, in Chevron gas)
use quality gas and drive the car and there will never be a need to clean the injectors

And I have to agree with Stew, as an ex pro wrench, I was a favorite of the ladies because I never tried to soak them, was alway willing to explain not only what I was doing but WHY (including a basic lesson on how that system worked) and became visibly indignant when I was told of crap like this

Actually I became indignant when I heard this sort of crap run on anybody, because mechanics that do stuff like this are a bad reflection on ALL mechanics, and i don't need some jackass with a ASE patch who clearly knows better besmirching my reputation by assosiation

Title: Re: car question
Post by rl153 on 05/06/16 at 12:02:08

Thanks guys,I will tell her not to do the sevice. Can using gummout in the gas have any negative effects? Thanks!

Title: Re: car question
Post by Dave on 05/06/16 at 12:48:32


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Thanks guys,I will tell her not to do the sevice. Can using gummout in the gas have any negative effects? Thanks!


As cars have become more reliable, and the old tune up stuff (plugs, points, condenser, distributor cap) have either been eliminated or gone to extended replacement (spark plugs used to last 20,000 miles....now they can go well beyond 80,000 miles in some cars) - the Dealers are making up stuff to get you to come in and get work done.  On the VW my wife had as her last car......the scheduled maintenance they recommend would have required her to have her car in every 3 months for something.

Find an injector/fuel system cleaner, and put a bottle in a few times a year.....and/or buy name brand gas (Shell, BP, Sunoco, Chevron) if you can afford it, as they do have more additives than the economy brand fuels.

Title: Re: car question
Post by thumperclone on 05/06/16 at 13:21:51

my taco has over 120k on the od never cleaned the injectors or put anything but gas in the tank
it has the same 4 cyl they use in camrys
hers may be a 6

Title: Re: car question
Post by rl153 on 05/06/16 at 13:29:55

Thanks, she uses shell gas. ( I believe her car is 4 cylinders)I'll tell her it's optional for her to add gumout once or twice a year . I have seen a few negative comments about it in a forum , but I believe it can't really hurt at that rate. Thanks again!

Title: Re: car question
Post by springman on 05/06/16 at 15:23:06

Look at your recommended maintenance manual. If it is not in there you do not need it. I really doubt it is in there.

Seafoam every so often is a very good idea.

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