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Message started by Redryder652 on 04/28/16 at 17:37:33

Title: Cam chain mod question
Post by Redryder652 on 04/28/16 at 17:37:33

So I pulled the clutch cover today, I wanted to replace a leaky gasket with the oem suzuki one, and I figured while I was in there id take the tensioner out that I installed about 400 miles ago. I did it to put a dab of threadlocker on the threads that hold the plunger. I torqued the bolt down, and released the zip tie hiding the plunger back. I just let the force of the spring do it's work, but will it extend to where it was before?

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by verslagen1 on 04/28/16 at 17:52:18

why wouldn't it?

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/16 at 18:02:44

Have you measured it?

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by Redryder652 on 04/28/16 at 18:13:18

I was just curious, and I have not measured it.

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/16 at 18:33:05

So you can get an idea when you should be looking at it again, you need to know where it is now. Measure it, write it somewhere so you can find it.

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by Redryder652 on 04/28/16 at 18:55:50

Also, when I put the tensioner body back on that shaft, I put the circlip on that holds it in. But when I put that clip on I was able to move it with a bit of force and my clip pliers. Is this okay? Or is it too loose on the shaft? Can that clip even bend, or is it hardened to where it will break if I open it too much?

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/16 at 19:16:58

If you can spin it with a fingernail, too loose.
Look at it. Take a small flat blade, push the tensioner onboard so it's not against the clip, use the blade to push the clip up and down, left and right. Is it seated in the groove? It's job is to stay there, and keep the tensioner on its mount. It's okay if you can turn it. But it should be closed on the groove.
Yes, you can open them too far. I've bent them back and used them on lots of stuff... but I would not do that on this part. A clip failure on a paper feed roller in a copier is one thing. Dropping the tensioner is a wholly different kinda screwup.

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by Redryder652 on 04/28/16 at 19:24:52

I put it on the larger part of the shaft before the grove. I then pushed it until it "snapped" into the grove. I guess I'll just order another, I just don't want to keep opening that cover too many times. I feel like it's bad for the gasket.

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/16 at 19:38:15

If it SNAPPED into the groove, it's probably fine. It's not something that you can grab and slide off. It's Gotta be opened up enough to go over the shaft.
If it required pressure to rotate, it's tight.

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by Redryder652 on 04/28/16 at 19:44:04

A little pressure. I ordered another, just in case. How many times you think I can open that cover before doing the gasket?

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/16 at 20:37:47

You can get them at the hardware store for under a buck.
Gaskets are like batteries.. never know what it's Not gonna put up with.
Put oil in before you put the exhaust on.

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by Redryder652 on 04/28/16 at 20:46:29

I actually haven't been draining the oil to take the cover off. I think I've taken it off like 3 times today, cause I keep forgetting to inspect other stuff. So what I've been doing is putting a lawnmower flywheel under each wheel and setting on the sidestand. that way the oil doesn't drain out.

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/16 at 21:04:00

Well, if you are smart enough to do that, try slowing down, thinking, don't tighten it, just put a couple of bolt in, sleep on it.

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by Redryder652 on 04/29/16 at 17:35:30

Does the gasket need the gasket maker like the clymer manual states?

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by cheapnewb24 on 04/29/16 at 21:27:13

This has got my interest. I'm going to be pulling the clutch cover myself sometime soon, and I'm wondering about the cheapest practical solution to the gasket issue. Is it better to buy a gasket or use gasket material? I gather there's a silicone trick, but if it's too easy to screw up, I'm not sure I would want to try it. Is it a wise idea? Does the old gasket usually work again or is it prone to problems?  

And what is this "gasket maker" thing? :-?

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by cheapnewb24 on 04/29/16 at 21:32:22


6D7274736E6958685860727E35070 wrote:
You can get them at the hardware store for under a buck.
Gaskets are like batteries.. never know what it's Not gonna put up with.
Put oil in before you put the exhaust on.


HUH?!?!?  :-?

I can get a clutch cover gasket from any hardware store??? For under a dollar???

:o

What are you talking about Justin! ;D

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by Redryder652 on 04/29/16 at 22:25:54

The manual states "there bond" or equivalent. I'm guessing, ultra grey by permatex.

Title: Re: Cam chain mod question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/29/16 at 22:34:34

Circlip, to retain the tensioner.

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